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Does Protel 99 SE work with Windows Vista ?

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Meat Plow

Are all vista users as sophisticated and genteel as you appear to be?

Thanks,
Rich

That's a new sock of massiveprong.


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P

PeteS

JackShephard said:
Only for foottards.

You're an ass, but you really aren't that good at it.

Keep working at it; practise makes perfect we're told

Cheers

PeteS
 
J

JackShephard

Not always possible. I bought an XP license and will delete the
Vista virus.

Shame we can't delete the virus that you are.

I sure hope you paid a lot for it. Bwuahahahahaha!

Does you skull generate as much heat as a 100W light bulb when you're
mad, KeithKiethStain? Bwuahahahahaha!
 
J

JackShephard

One assumes that instead of meaning *a DOS box*,
you are speaking of the open source cross-platform utility
http://www.google.com/search?q=define:DOSBox
--and saying (again) that M$'s "legendary backwards-compatibliity"
*ain't*.


As if it takes a genius to run an old legacy app in a product as well
made as DOSBox.

Any two year old can do it. A PC Maven/guru, he is not.
 
J

JackShephard

You're an ass, but you really aren't that good at it.
IKYABWAI

Keep working at it; practise makes perfect we're told

Especially when you learn how to spell it correctly.

You should PRACTICE, you might get it right one day.

disingenuous asswipe.
 
K

krw

Shame we can't delete the virus that you are.

Wow, such repartee! Is your neuron tired?
I sure hope you paid a lot for it. Bwuahahahahaha!

Of course, Dimmy. Nice quoting BTW, MassivelyWrong.
Does you skull generate as much heat as a 100W light bulb when you're
mad, KeithKiethStain? Bwuahahahahaha!

You're the dim bulb that doesn't think a 100W light bulb generates
100W of heat, Dimbulb.
 
M

Michael A. Terrell

krw said:
Wow, such repartee! Is your neuron tired?


What do you call half a Neuron? Jack Shephard!


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J

joseph2k

Rich said:
An operating system that makes you modify your existing software is
worse than useless.

But, I guess there's no talking sense to the M$ addicts. Sigh.

The sad part is, this annoying little twerp is probably going to become
a millionaire doing help-desk work for vista victims.

Thanks,
Rich
JackWrong wouldn't last a full day on help desk, too abrasive and abusive.
 
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James Beck

As if it takes a genius to run an old legacy app in a product as well
made as DOSBox.

Any two year old can do it. A PC Maven/guru, he is not.
Never suggested I was.
Just made a comment about a tool I use.
Nothing more.

Jim
 
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John Larkin

It should do.

I write PCBCAD software and mine works great under Vista.

I even wrote a new version using .net v3 that only works with XP and
Vista.

www.ckp-railways.talktalk.net/pcbcad21.htm


Wow, those are the ugliest schematics and pcb layouts I've seen in a
long time. And it's hard to read much of the red-on-blue website text
without getting a headache. If the tools are any good, a better
presentation would help sell them.

John
 
R

Rodo

I have to second the other poster's comments. The web site colors are
hideous !. The software looks good though. Better presentation may sell
more. Good luck.
 
J

JackShephard

I have to second the other poster's comments. The web site colors are
hideous !. The software looks good though. Better presentation may sell
more. Good luck.


Actually, the website and the software looks hideous.

Good old Tango beats it, hands down, and it is a ten year old plus
package.
 
Hi all,

I need to install Protel 99 SE in a new laptop that I have to buy and all
laptops now have Windows Vista. Does anyone know if Protel 99 SE works ok
with vista ?

Thanks a bunch.

I made the mistake of upgrading to Vista and have had all kinds of
problems with just about everything that I used to run, including
Protel 99 SE. I have hard drive drawers in my PC and I finally decided
to set up an XP drive with tools such as 99 SE on it. However, if you
MUST use Vista you may be able to make Protel work. In the limited
testing that I did I found that everything seems to work except the
function that adds libraries. You can open library files and edit
them, and you can remove libraries from a project. However, once you
have removed a library you cannot re-select it. A work-around would be
to rename your library to the same name as the default library in the
Protel directory and then copy it over top of the default library.
This goes for both SCH and PCB libraries. Yes, I tried the various
compatibility modes - no success. I suspect that it has something to
do with file PERMISSIONS. Protel consists of a gazillion little EXE
files that it calls SERVERS, and I suspect that there may be a problem
with the library server having the right permissions, but I spent more
time than I should have and did not get it to work. If anyone out
there has solved the LIBRARY problem please let us know. I suppose it
it time to cough up the bucks for Altium Designer!!??
 
Hi all,

I need to install Protel 99 SE in a new laptop that I have to buy and all
laptops now have Windows Vista. Does anyone know if Protel 99 SE works ok
with vista ?

Thanks a bunch.

I made the mistake of upgrading to Vista and have had all kinds of
problems with just about everything that I used to run, including
Protel 99 SE. I have hard drive drawers in my PC and I finally
decided
to set up an XP drive with tools such as 99 SE on it. However, if you
MUST use Vista you may be able to make Protel work. In the limited
testing that I did I found that everything seems to work except the
function that adds libraries. You can open library files and edit
them, and you can remove libraries from a project. However, once you
have removed a library you cannot re-select it. A work-around would
be
to rename your library to the same name as the default library in the
Protel directory and then copy it over top of the default library.
This goes for both SCH and PCB libraries. Yes, I tried the various
compatibility modes - no success. I suspect that it has something to
do with file PERMISSIONS. Protel consists of a gazillion little EXE
files that it calls SERVERS, and I suspect that there may be a
problem
with the library server having the right permissions, but I spent
more
time than I should have and did not get it to work. If anyone out
there has solved the LIBRARY problem please let us know. I suppose it
it time to cough up the bucks for Altium Designer!!??
 
J

Jamie

I made the mistake of upgrading to Vista and have had all kinds of
problems with just about everything that I used to run, including
Protel 99 SE. I have hard drive drawers in my PC and I finally decided
to set up an XP drive with tools such as 99 SE on it. However, if you
MUST use Vista you may be able to make Protel work. In the limited
testing that I did I found that everything seems to work except the
function that adds libraries. You can open library files and edit
them, and you can remove libraries from a project. However, once you
have removed a library you cannot re-select it. A work-around would be
to rename your library to the same name as the default library in the
Protel directory and then copy it over top of the default library.
This goes for both SCH and PCB libraries. Yes, I tried the various
compatibility modes - no success. I suspect that it has something to
do with file PERMISSIONS. Protel consists of a gazillion little EXE
files that it calls SERVERS, and I suspect that there may be a problem
with the library server having the right permissions, but I spent more
time than I should have and did not get it to work. If anyone out
there has solved the LIBRARY problem please let us know. I suppose it
it time to cough up the bucks for Altium Designer!!??
May I suggest something.
Try to create another Main Programs folder. and re-install there.
Vista has the Program Files folder tree some what locked down and hard
to work around how ever. I did find that if you create a new folder tree
from the Root using simple names so that older program don't get
confused it seem to work for many programs i have how ever, there is
still some problems with Vista that has not been solved and is not
security issues. It seems that some apps not all that i tested, will
start failing things like pop down menus that no longer seem to have a
function any more and so on after you have worked with the app for
some time.. when it starts doing this. I need to shut it down and wait,
it them seems a lot of disk activity is taking place. then I restart it
and they will work again.
THis is not just one program, it's like 4 out of 8 programs i use is
doing this.
so oh well.
I had Vista on my new laptop which originally came with XP pro.
Panasonic suggested Vista so I bought it and installed it..
That was a mistake., every program I had that required the use of the
serial port would stop working or miss behave after some time using the
functions in the apps that applied to the serial port. It almost look
like back in the days when you ran out of system resources.

so I remove Vista and attempted to install XP pro SP2. when I say
attempted it was not fun. It seems that some how the bios in the laptop
got altered. and when you start and install of XP, it reboots the laptop
after the first cycle to get things started and ends up booting
something that is still looking for Vista code. The only thing I can
come up with here is that Vista changed something in the bios.
Look like it wasn't loading it's boot sector from the normal place.
any ways. After looking at the resource CD that comes with the laptop,
there was a Flash restore utility disk. that corrected that problem.
Now we have XP pro SP2 on the laptop, all my programs work fine now.
 
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Rich Grise

.
I had Vista on my new laptop which originally came with XP pro.
Panasonic suggested Vista so I bought it and installed it..
That was a mistake., every program I had that required the use of the ....
so I remove Vista and attempted to install XP pro SP2. when I say ....
Look like it wasn't loading it's boot sector from the normal place.
any ways. After looking at the resource CD that comes with the laptop,
there was a Flash restore utility disk. that corrected that problem.
Now we have XP pro SP2 on the laptop, all my programs work fine now.

So, are you going to try to get your money back from M$ for the crapware?

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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