PIC Development Tools

glogin · May 12, 2006

There is a new company producing PIC microcontrollers development
tools.
http://www.loginway.com
You can find the PIC-01 kit on their website or on eBay.
Does anybody use it? I can't find any users' opinions about this.

John B · May 12, 2006

glogin scrobe on the papyrus:

There is a new company producing PIC microcontrollers development
tools.
http://www.loginway.com
You can find the PIC-01 kit on their website or on eBay.
Does anybody use it? I can't find any users' opinions about this.

You should know since you're the guy selling it. Maybe there are no
customers because the product is not so good.

JeffM · May 13, 2006

I can't find any users' opinions about this.

glogin

Says the clumsy troll spammer
(who thinks we are so naive that we haven't seen this ploy before).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci....PARTICIPATING+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-PLASTER-*-*
http://groups.google.com/group/sci....ARTICIPATING+*-*-*-*-SPAMMER+zz-zz+first-time

Ever thought of submitting it to a techie freelance writer?
Perhaps he will submit a review to a periodical
--or is it such crap that you don't want to chance that?

Rich Grise · May 13, 2006

There is a new company producing PIC microcontrollers development
tools.
http://www.loginway.com
You can find the PIC-01 kit on their website or on eBay.
Does anybody use it? I can't find any users' opinions about this.

FWIW, the web site is hideous. The background is a very sickly color, and
gradating to dark off to the right like that is disorenting, and very
hard on the eyes. The pix suck - couldn't you have figured out a way
to hold the camera parallel to the PCB?

Good Luck!
Rich

mc · May 13, 2006

http://www.loginway.com

"LoginWay principal activities are design, development and
manufacture electronic systems, especially microcontroller
based Digital Electronic Engineering"

The English grammar isn't too good either.

Rich Webb · May 13, 2006

FWIW, the web site is hideous. The background is a very sickly color, and
gradating to dark off to the right like that is disorenting, and very
hard on the eyes. The pix suck - couldn't you have figured out a way
to hold the camera parallel to the PCB?

Ya. Darker text and a lighter, solid color background would make it
easier. Not to mention a properly lighted and oriented picture of the
board itself. Remember, people will judge the product (even if not
consciously) by how it's presented.

Carl Smith · May 13, 2006

Ya. Darker text and a lighter, solid color background would make it
easier.

I've never understood why some web site designers seem to think
it's cool to put text in low contrast colors and/or put a
distracting background behind it. It's like they don't actually
want me to be able to read it. So I don't...

mc · May 13, 2006

I've never understood why some web site designers seem to think

it's cool to put text in low contrast colors and/or put a
distracting background behind it. It's like they don't actually
want me to be able to read it. So I don't...

They think it is "creative" because it is uncommon. They don't realize it
is uncommon because it doesn't work very well!

Michael · May 13, 2006

Carl said:
I've never understood why some web site designers seem to think
it's cool to put text in low contrast colors and/or put a
distracting background behind it. It's like they don't actually
want me to be able to read it. So I don't...

Dark blue on black is what makes my blood boil. I dive for the Back button
whenever I see that monstrosity start to load.

Jim Thompson · May 13, 2006

Dark blue on black is what makes my blood boil. I dive for the Back button
whenever I see that monstrosity start to load.

Red on black makes my brain seize up ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Pooh Bear · May 13, 2006

Michael said:
Dark blue on black is what makes my blood boil. I dive for the Back button
whenever I see that monstrosity start to load.

I saw some yellow text on mid blue earlier today. Almost unreadable.

Graham

Hal Murray · May 14, 2006

Red on black makes my brain seize up ;-)

Red on blue can be horrible. Your eye can't focus on both
at the same time. Some people get headaches when their eyes
try to switch back and forth too fast/often.

The is especially important for things like text where there are
lost of boundaries between foreground and background.

mc · May 14, 2006

Sometimes what might be happening is that the designer's monitor is out of
calibration and he doesn't know it.

Pooh Bear · May 14, 2006

mc said:
Sometimes what might be happening is that the designer's monitor is out of
calibration and he doesn't know it.

I doubt it could be *that* out of calibration !

Graham

Michael A. Terrell · May 14, 2006

Pooh said:
I saw some yellow text on mid blue earlier today. Almost unreadable.

Graham

I've seen a few sites with very pale yellow on a white background.
You can barely tell that there is any text there, let alone read any of
it. I had to use the mouse to highlight the text so I could read it. I
though about emailing the webmasters, but decided that that was the
least of the problems on those sites.

BTW, have you ever had a look at: http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ ?

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Pooh Bear · May 14, 2006

Michael A. Terrell said:
I've seen a few sites with very pale yellow on a white background.
You can barely tell that there is any text there, let alone read any of
it. I had to use the mouse to highlight the text so I could read it. I
though about emailing the webmasters, but decided that that was the
least of the problems on those sites.

BTW, have you ever had a look at: http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ ?

I have now. ;-)

Graham

Ian Bell · May 14, 2006

Hal said:
Red on blue can be horrible. Your eye can't focus on both
at the same time. Some people get headaches when their eyes
try to switch back and forth too fast/often.

However blue on pale yellow can look really nice - in the 70's we used to
get drawings from our US sister company that were in pale blue - seemed
more pleasant to look at somehow and their staff always had yellow note
pads too. Somehow they were just easier on the eye.

Ian

martin griffith · May 14, 2006

Dark blue on black is what makes my blood boil. I dive for the Back button
whenever I see that monstrosity start to load.

Yep, and there are so many places to find out what works and what does
not. Porn sites tend to use really nasty combinations of colours

http://www.allwebdesignresources.com/colorschemescombinations.html

martin

Rene Tschaggelar · May 14, 2006

glogin said:
There is a new company producing PIC microcontrollers development
tools.
http://www.loginway.com
You can find the PIC-01 kit on their website or on eBay.
Does anybody use it? I can't find any users' opinions about this.

The picture gallery of the products page could
have given me shaky legs 30 years ago.
"Power indicator LED D2", whoa....
But for now, it just appears off in time frame.

The pricing is ok, I guess. Though it doesn't
make sense to stock 4 boards that just differ
by a recifier and a RS232. Just throw it in,
and be done with it.

Rene

Michael · May 14, 2006

mc said:
Sometimes what might be happening is that the designer's monitor is out of
calibration and he doesn't know it.

I kinda doubt that's the case. I've seen way too many dark-blue-on-black text
Web pages over the past ten years for them to have resulted from faulty
monitors. I mean ... think about it: DARK blue; black. That screams "low
contrast" to everyone who knows his/her colors. I think those page designers
are punks and goths who leave their dark rooms only after sunset.

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