Perpetual Motion Failure!

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

I just read some more there. This bit had me close to tears of laughter.

" Seven people have since built this device in Australia and it seems to work
fine, but no-one can explain the effiency anomoly that occurs after about 15
minutes of running time. In the two that I have personally seen, the eff. rating
jumps from 85% (normal) then after about 15 mins goes to around 120%.

We have set up oscilloscopes, amp meters, volt meters, temp meters and can't
account for the increase.

We do not have access to a magnamonitor to measure the magnetic field on the
rotor, but we are still stumped. "


When ppl start talking about magma monitors......... < dries eyes >

Graham

Should be easy enough to "close the loop" and tap off excess energy.
I'll wait until I see that done.
Personally.
I can also guarantee that if someone shows me such a machine I could,
within days, get several $million of backing for them.

--
Dirk

http://www.onetribe.me.uk - The UK's only occult talk show
Presented by Dirk Bruere and Marc Power on ResonanceFM 104.4
http://www.resonancefm.com

 

[Eeyore]

"Quick Robin - fetch the Bat-MultiMeter!!"

I can only imagine the guy was thinking magnetometer but must have misheard it.

It certainly gave me a chuckle. Funniest thing I've seen in days in fact.

Graham

 

[Phineas T Puddleduck]

I can only imagine the guy was thinking magnetometer but must have misheard
it.

It certainly gave me a chuckle. Funniest thing I've seen in days in fact.

Graham

Perhaps we should design a magmamonitor to sell to them.

Simplest design - a stick

If the end burns when you poke it into the substance, its magma.

 

[Kisai]

So I have been working constantly since 2:00PM EST on my perpetual
motion machine.

Work = Force * Distance

In order for your machine to be perpetual. One of the two conditions
must be satisified:

1) There must be no counteracting forces upon the machine, id est,
friction.

2) You can warp space indefinitely.

 

[kell]

So I have been working constantly since 2:00PM EST on my perpetual
motion machine.

SNIP
I searched his name in google groups, this guy lives at alt.magick
for some semi-interesting reading check out his "extrapolating
polynomials" thread.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....&q=author:CoreyWhite&rnum=16#05bbf31c0ed2b960
Wasted talent.

 

[Phineas T Puddleduck]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/browse_frm/thread/254cedf5cf4dc5a3/0
5bbf31c0ed2b960?lnk=st&q=author%3ACoreyWhite&rnum=16#05bbf31c0ed2b960

Yep he also admittedly to trying to use other newsgroups to spam another
alt. group over a stupid argument.

 

[Eric Gisse]

Your first born daughter might.
Read the fine print.

....and what makes the fine print enforcable?

Can I send you an email that says "By reading this email, you owe me 1
dollar"?

Will you pay me the dollar?

Can I take you to court if you refuse?

 

[[email protected]]

Work = Force * Distance

In order for your machine to be perpetual. One of the two conditions
must be satisified:

1) There must be no counteracting forces upon the machine, id est,
friction.

Not good enough. A perpetual motion machine is something that not
just moves perpetually but *does work perpetually*.

2) You can warp space indefinitely.

And how will this help.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
[email protected] | chances are he is doing just the same"

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Yeah, all those integrated circuits and biotech stuff and planes that
can actually be manufactured and Mars probes that actually send back
data... must be dumb luck.

John

You have never heard of the fabulous "British Space Program"? It is
all the missing teeth from poor dental care.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Robert Latest]

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]

As we all know Lego Technic is the prime source of perpetual motion...

Sure is. At least that's what I built my first perpetuum mobile out of.

robert

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

SNIP
I searched his name in google groups, this guy lives at alt.magick
for some semi-interesting reading check out his "extrapolating
polynomials" thread.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....&q=author:CoreyWhite&rnum=16#05bbf31c0ed2b960
Wasted talent.

He could go a long way if he started with a good education.

--
Dirk

http://www.onetribe.me.uk - The UK's only occult talk show
Presented by Dirk Bruere and Marc Power on ResonanceFM 104.4
http://www.resonancefm.com

 

[The_Man]

Work = Force * Distance

In order for your machine to be perpetual. One of the two conditions
must be satisified:

1) There must be no counteracting forces upon the machine, id est,
friction.

2) You can warp space indefinitely.

The failure of perpetual motion machines has nothing to do with
friction. It has to do with the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Even if
friction could be eliminated entirely, perpetual motion machines would
not operate, since the integral of dq / T must be less than or equal to
zero. From this it is possible to derive the efficiency of any heat
engine (machine) which is less than zero as a consequence of the
increase of entropy in any spontaneous process.

 

[Ross Herbert]

I just read some more there. This bit had me close to tears of laughter.

" Seven people have since built this device in Australia and it seems to work
fine, but no-one can explain the effiency anomoly that occurs after about 15
minutes of running time. In the two that I have personally seen, the eff. rating
jumps from 85% (normal) then after about 15 mins goes to around 120%.

We have set up oscilloscopes, amp meters, volt meters, temp meters and can't
account for the increase.

We do not have access to a magnamonitor to measure the magnetic field on the
rotor, but we are still stumped. "


When ppl start talking about magma monitors......... < dries eyes >

Graham

The Australian Skeptics awarded Lutec the winner of the Bent Spoon
award for 2001.
http://www.skeptics.com.au/spoon/2001winners.htm

 

[martin griffith]

So I have been working constantly since 2:00PM EST on my perpetual
motion machine.

"If someone points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is
in disagreement with Maxwell's equations then so much the worse for
Maxwell's equations.

If it is found to be contradicted by observation well, these
experimentalists do bungle things sometimes.

But if your theory is found to be against the second law of
thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to
collapse in deepest humiliation."
(Eddington)


martin

 

[Autymn D. C.]

Give up - you're making a complete arse of yourself. There is no such
thing as a perpetual motion machine.

Wrong, everything is in perpetual motion, and everything is a makine.

 

[Autymn D. C.]

Finding a source of unlimited free energy would be one of the most
imaginably henious crimes against humanity.

For it would be GUARANTEED to turn the planet into a cinder.

Anyone even pondering the possibility should be staked to an anthill.

Wrong, shithead: http://egroups.com/message/free_energy/6928

 

[The_Man]

Wrong, everything is in perpetual motion, and everything is a makine.

Just becuase your asshole is in perpetual motion, doesn't mean that
EVERYTHING is.

If you don't know what a "makine" (machine?) is, go stick your hand (an
yo' mama) into a machine (or play with your Barbies in that frilly
dress you've had your eyes on for so long).

 

[Autymn D. C.]

"If someone points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is
in disagreement with Maxwell's equations then so much the worse for
Maxwell's equations.

If it is found to be contradicted by observation well, these
experimentalists do bungle things sometimes.

But if your theory is found to be against the second law of
thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to
collapse in deepest humiliation."
(Eddington)

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Autymn+thèrmodunamics

-Aut

 

[Autymn D. C.]

Just becuase your asshole is in perpetual motion, doesn't mean that
EVERYTHING is.

I'v no donkey.

If you don't know what a "makine" (machine?) is, go stick your hand (an
yo' mama) into a machine (or play with your Barbies in that frilly
dress you've had your eyes on for so long).

It's makine. Learn Hèllenic or die. Every body is a makine, so your
nonpoint is not takene.

-Aut

 

[Don Lancaster]

Don Lancaster wrote:


...and what makes the fine print enforcable?

Bruno.

He is Lego's attitude relateralization facillitator.

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