need unbiased advice about lynx system

[Jim]

Exactly right !! The best thing for the client might be to simply have a
local dealer replace the hardware with a newer and better panel for a few
bucks, or do it yourself if you are capable. Who knows, that local dealer
might do it at cost simply to get a long term contract.

Or .... who knows, that local dealer might do it at cost and give you
free service, no contract, and a lowball monitoring rate. Which
indicates that he doesn't have a ounce of intelligence about runing a
business or buiding equity in his enterprise, and that you should take
advantage of him as long as you can ..... as he well deserves.

 

[J. Sloud]

You're entire correct. However, your original reply stated that if
you sent a certified letter and waited 14 dyas, you'd be in the clear.
My point was that this may not be enough to satisfy the laws in the
original poster's jurisdiction. The car analogy was off. A better
one would be the soda machine in yourplace of business or the copier
for that matter, assuming it's leased.

 

[R.H.Campbell]

No different than any dealer that puts in the free systems. He makes his
money in the monitoring. The couple of hours labour you "lose" at the front
end, you make up for with years of monitoring profit, plus multitudes of
referrals.

The rest of your comments don't warrant an answer; they are typical of your
cynical attitude towards dealers who are more concerned about their clients
costs, and in keeping them from making the mistake of signing over control
of their alarm system to dealers like you.

You show what you're really made of with all the vitriol you spew on this
newsgroup. If you treat your clients like you deal in this newsgroup, I feel
genuinely sorry for them.

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com

 

[Stanley Barthfarkle]

Much better analogies with the soda machine and copier, although they are
still many times the value of this particular alarm system. A soda machine
or commercial grade copier would be worth going to small claims court over,
whereas a small alarm system generally is not.

I think it's safe to assume that 14 days is ample notice. It's next to
impossible to get info from local government about particular, obscure
regulations and statutes. So, if one is worried about a $100 small claims
suit being filed by a large corporation to recoup the depreciated (the
nationals depreciate the equipment to help defray the costs) value of this
alarm equipment, wait 30 days, or 60, or whatever. I'd feel comfortable that
I'd done the right thing with 14 days notice, but your mileage may vary.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Welp I wasn't gonna bad mouth the lynx...personally I don't them...but I
guess they have their niche for a "certain" market...not mine.

 

[R.H.Campbell]

No, you're right, they definately do have a market. The Lynx is the same as
the Envoy and the Magellan...designed for very small installations,
trailers, apartments etc. The problem only occurs when people shoehorn them
in to regular homes only because it is less time consuming, and / or allows
them to install more of the "free system" type installations in a given
time. I've removed more of the Lynx and Envoy systems than I can count and
replaced them with a proper hardwired or hybrid system.

I wasn't really "badmouthing" the equipment. Just a cynical comment on where
they sometimes go in...

RHC

 

[Crash Gordon]

I was in a 3000 sq ft house a few months ago where someone put in a lynx. It
was by the rear kitchen sliding glass door (why? - because that was where
the easiest phone line was - no siezure of course)...3 door transmiters and
one pir...now that's protection huh!...the homeowner loved it.

 

[R.H.Campbell]

...........cynical mode "on"........................

Yeah, the client loved it only because he didn't know any better. And he
didn't know any better because his security dealer defaulted on his
professional obligation to secure his client's home properly. And he
"defaulted" on his obligation because our industry is full of the same kind
of dealers, big and small, who put quick profits ahead of doing a proper,
professional job.

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com

 

[Crash Gordon]

I tried to point out the shortcomings of the install but I could tell he
thought I was selling sour grapes because he didn't ask me to bid on it (I
sold him surround sound and plasma) - needless to say he spent 7 grand on
entertainment center and maybe 400 on security his house and family.

 

[R.H.Campbell]

Yeah, that figures too. Security is low on their list of priorities (until
they get hit)

RHC

 

[Joe]

Welp I wasn't gonna bad mouth the lynx...personally I don't them...but I
guess they have their niche for a "certain" market...not mine.

I have found 2 uses for them.

We sold a couple to the sherrif's dept. along with 1 5816 and 2 5890 per
system. They use them in various places as temp protection.

I gave one to my niece after her apartment was broken into. (she is on
college) I showed her how to screw the 5816's and 5890's on place and
how to plug it into the wall and the phone. This year will be the third
apartment its been in. Real handy.

But, like you, I would not use them for any sort of permanent system.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Yep... I've given a few to good clients when they are moving to a new home
thats not ready yet and they want something in the apt they're
renting...when I do the new house I take the loaner back and keep it for the
next one..I keep it all set up in CS monitoring (just make it inactive) all
I have to do is change the name & address on the account for the next
guy...bada bing.