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you know bass is about freedom. freedom from laws and rules and agreements
and govt intrusion. those things are for common folks not the mighty bass.

Everywhere Man said:
So now you had an F1 license (commercial fire) in CT?
 
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Crash Gordon

It may be years...maybe,,dunno I have short term memory problem sometimes.

Yah I have a solid contract...which reminds me that I need to re-write
it...it's gotten too long over the years. I need to make it shorter and more
easily read by normal people.

Still it's hassle when people modify their own stuff..that's why I lock the
box too.

:)


|> Hopefully, he didn't disable an alarm zone on a monitored
| > system without notifying the alarmco that he did so. If I
| > were the alarmco I'd be concerned abt potential liability
| > issue on this one.
|
| I don't think you'd need to worry too much. First of all, if you test
every
| point and document everything, including all service calls, it's not too
| difficult to substantiate that you weren't responsible for a failure.
|
| Second, carefully worded installation, maintenance and monitoring
agreements
| make it really difficult for a customer to sue his alarm company -- even
if the
| alarm company actually was at fault. From the things you've said over the
years
| (is it already years?) that you've been posting here, I must assume you've
got a
| solid contract.
|
| --
|
| Regards,
| Robert L Bass
|
| Bass Burglar Alarms
| The Online DIY Store
| http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
|
| --
|
| Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.
 
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Robert L Bass

It may be years...maybe,,dunno I have short term memory problem sometimes.

Me too. I keep scheduling appointments for an Alzheimer's test but I always
forget to go. :^)
Yah I have a solid contract...which reminds me that I need to re-write
it...it's gotten too long over the years. I need to make it shorter and more
easily read by normal people.

Just make sure your lawyer looks it over before you send it to the printer. If
your attorney isn't a specialist in security system contracts, I'd suggest you
buy a contract from someone who is.
Still it's hassle when people modify their own stuff..that's why I lock the
box too.

I always locked the cabinet. Then I gave the key to the customer. :^)

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
 
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Everywhere Man

Nomen said:
Everywhere Man said:


In this case, I guess "lick and stick" refers to the postage stamp on the
box the parts came in. <

If he had the "modicum of skills" he's always yapping about his
installs may have passed for deplorable rather than comical. He
couldn't install a Loxxon without using a staple gun.
 
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Crash Gordon

I don't use printed contracts (I hate handwritten entries) I generate each
contract from the computer all nice an neat..only handwriting on them are
signatures. I also hate the feel of NCR paper...I'm phobic I guess.

I wrote my own contract and had it reviewed by my attorney...he said he
wouldn't sign it so I guess it's good enough :))


| On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:31:10 -0700, "Crash Gordon"
|
| > It may be years...maybe,,dunno I have short term memory problem
sometimes.
|
| Me too. I keep scheduling appointments for an Alzheimer's test but I
always
| forget to go. :^)
|
| > Yah I have a solid contract...which reminds me that I need to re-write
| > it...it's gotten too long over the years. I need to make it shorter and
more
| > easily read by normal people.
|
| Just make sure your lawyer looks it over before you send it to the
printer. If
| your attorney isn't a specialist in security system contracts, I'd suggest
you
| buy a contract from someone who is.
|
| > Still it's hassle when people modify their own stuff..that's why I lock
the
| > box too.
|
| I always locked the cabinet. Then I gave the key to the customer. :^)
|
| --
|
| Regards,
| Robert L Bass
|
| Bass Burglar Alarms
| The Online DIY Store
| http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
|
| --
|
| Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.
|
 
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Robert L Bass

I don't use printed contracts (I hate handwritten entries) I generate each
contract from the computer all nice an neat..only handwriting on them are
signatures. I also hate the feel of NCR paper...I'm phobic I guess.

A friendly competitor gave me a copy of his installation and monitoring
contracts many years ago. I made a few changes to comply with state and federal
guidelines (3-day right of rescission, etc.) and handed it to an attorney who
had done work for several other alarm companies in my area. He said it was fair
but comprehensive and that it should hold up if someone tried to challenge it.

I first had it printed on bound, legal-size paper with carbons. That was OK but
carbon paper makes a mess so eventually I reprinted it on 3-part NCR paper. The
contract stood unchallenged for over 20 years so I guess it was effective.
I wrote my own contract and had it reviewed by my attorney...he said he
wouldn't sign it so I guess it's good enough :))

When I started offering monitoring services via online sales I tried using
mailed contracts. That was a royal PITJ. After a while I got the contract
central station's contract sent to me as an ASCII text file. I input that to an
MSW doc, added tons of fields for customer, premises, authorities and heyholder
data and converted the whole shebang to a PDF -- complete with online digital
signatures. The CS had their attorney look at it and he said it was fine. I
used that for a few years until I decided to stop offering monitoring services.

Whatever works for you, right?

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
 
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Bob Worthy

Jim said:
Can't ever seem to figure out why people feel that what an alarm
company gets for a service call is lots of money but when the
refrigerator or washing machine breaks down, they don't mind laying out
a couple of hundred to get it working again. And some of the appliance
repairmen get an up front fee even if they just show up and you decide
you don't want it fixed.

Just doesn't compute.

C'mon Jim, the industry has educated the public to the fact that security
doesn't cost anything, and besides, keeping the beer cold and wearing clean
skivvey's is worth a hell of lot more than doing what ever it takes to
protect the most valuable asset a person owns, as well as their family, and
all of the items that, no matter how much insurance you have, can't be
replaced. Priorities, priorities. Thank goodness there is still some out
there with their priorities in line.
 
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Bob Worthy

Robert L Bass said:
The
contract stood unchallenged for over 20 years so I guess it was effective.

I know Bass won't read this but,

How do you know how good it was if it was unchallanged. You could have got
it out of a cracker jack box if that was the case.
When I started offering monitoring services via online sales I tried using
mailed contracts. The CS had their attorney look at it and he said it was
fine.

I wouldn't have trusted that attorney since he was allowing his client to
aid and abet an unlicensed contractor. Sort of put his own client in
jeopardy.
I used that for a few years until I decided to stop offering monitoring
services.

Didn't that decission coincide with a visit from the DBPR?
Whatever works for you, right?

I didn't quit work out for you, did it?
 
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