need spring-energy-storage mechanism

[Moka Java]

You haven't convinced me that your not a pimply faced lard ass
presenting your Physics for Poets final exam question to usnet for your
perverse entertainment. Since you posted to alt.horology, here's a
watch collector's answer: The mainspring for a 16 size Hamilton pocket
watch is pretty stout and they're readily available. I'm figuring 50
years of winding might store enough energy to get your fat ass out of
your mother's basement.

Now be a good boy and get a job. Mowing lawns is good exercise. You
don't see many fat Mexicans on landscaping crews.

R "troll baiter" TF

 

[jim]

I requested information about spring storage.

No you requested info about transporting a commodity off a mountain. Of
course, there really is no mountain or commodity. There never was you
mad trhat up. You just thought if you threw that bit in so that some
brilliant mechanical engineer would give away, for free, the recipe for
regenerative braking on a bicycle without noticing that they had done
so. Ha Ha Ha what a hoot!
Meanwhile you have a half dozen entrepreneurs with ropes and pulleys
and laundry chutes hunting down your mountain and the fortune to be made
there. You got love Usenet the entertainment is unsurpassed.

-jim

 

[Revision]

Now be a good boy and get a job. Mowing lawns is good exercise. You
don't see many fat Mexicans on landscaping crews.

No, very few are fat.

 

[Bill]

No, very few are fat.

Ummm, no they aren't, but you still can't ask one for directions. You
get the "No Habla Anglais" just about every time.
Been there, done that, didn't work with hand signals.
Meanwhile, I managed to get myself volunteered for digging up about 300
feet of leech line for a friend's rental house. I can already feel the
blisters waiting to pop up. At least I am riding my bike the 2 miles
each way.
Shovel, sweat, drink beer, repeat until sunset.
Bill Baka

 

[J.A. Legris]

i think i need a spring energy-storage mechanism. Maybe a very large
wind-up clock motor?

the scenario is: a slightly-valuable commodity originates at the top
of a mountain. More or less a bushel at a time. there is an existing
paved road. the commodity fetches a price, but not enough to pay for
very much transport.

the concept is to use a cargo bicycle, maybe with trailer, to carry
the items down to the bottom of the mountain, "winding up the clock"
on the spring-storage.

at the bottom, the load is transferred to buyers. the now very-much-
lighter bicycle is to be driven UP the mountain, using the stored
energy.

Any cat which will catch the mice is fine with me. I'm just thinking
that anything involving electricity, hydraulic fluids, etc, will be
too involved, and losses throguh two conversions. Capacitor storage
might be feasible, if there's high quality ones being sold. The charge
doesn't need to held for long amounts of time. Down the hill, then
back up.

Ideally, this will be a ready-to-go or mostly ready-to-go
commercial item. I am rather mechanically/electrically handy. But
this is business, not pleasure. Time spent should be cost-effective.

Maybe the market can solve the problem for you. Ask your willing
customers to drive up themselves for a slight discount and to take
some back down to your depot for the rest of them.

 

[SMS]

Ummm, no they aren't, but you still can't ask one for directions. You
get the "No Habla Anglais" just about every time.

BFD, and what does that have to do with exercise? It's just laziness
that people with tiny lawns are spending $75/month for lawn service that
would take them about 30 minutes every two weeks to do themselves.
Especially in Silicon Valley where the weather is fine. It's not like
even using up your weekend to mow the lawn, you can do it after work
instead of going to the gym!

I guess I'm cheap. I do my lawn myself, and I maintain my pool myself,
because I can't see another $150 per month in monthly expenditures for
things I can easily do myself, no matter what the ethnic origin of the
people I would otherwise hire.

 

[Bill]

BFD, and what does that have to do with exercise? It's just laziness
that people with tiny lawns are spending $75/month for lawn service that
would take them about 30 minutes every two weeks to do themselves.
Especially in Silicon Valley where the weather is fine. It's not like
even using up your weekend to mow the lawn, you can do it after work
instead of going to the gym!

I do my own lawn but it is Spartan since I am not about to plant
flowers. We have an ongoing new housing project near me and once people
buy one of those cheap crap houses they buy 2 SUV's and a riding lawn
mower for their absurdly small lawns. The result is that many of the
newly purchased new homes are now in foreclosure.
They should say "Quality homes built by Mexicans and built with the
lowest price everything.".

I guess I'm cheap. I do my lawn myself, and I maintain my pool myself,
because I can't see another $150 per month in monthly expenditures for
things I can easily do myself, no matter what the ethnic origin of the
people I would otherwise hire.

Same here. I don't have a pool because I would have to maintain the
thing even when I was on vacation, and I don't want to hire a pool boy.
Bill Baka

 

[Bob Cain]

No, very few are fat.

Fewer of their wives are otherwise.


Bob

 

[SMS]

Bill wrote:

They should say "Quality homes built by Mexicans and built with the
lowest price everything.".

Again, who they're built by is immaterial.

It's true that the quality of materials being used these days is
abysmal. I'm not sure what's going on with the developer's effort to
allow CPVC pipe for drinking water; Schwarzenegger was pushing this at
the request of developers, but I'm not sure if it ever went through. The
OSB is bad enough.

OTOH, when I was getting my roof replaced, the roofing guy was telling
me that I could only use the lighter tiles to replace the wood shake
roof, as the regular tiles used in new construction were too heavy. So
the actual frame and roof of the new houses are stronger than the older
houses, even as the non-structural materials decline in quality.

What _has_ happened is that the illegal alien labor has made working as
a construction worker no longer a living wage job, except where the
developer is required to use only union workers.

 

[Bill]

Bill wrote:



Again, who they're built by is immaterial.

It's true that the quality of materials being used these days is
abysmal. I'm not sure what's going on with the developer's effort to
allow CPVC pipe for drinking water; Schwarzenegger was pushing this at
the request of developers, but I'm not sure if it ever went through. The
OSB is bad enough.

OTOH, when I was getting my roof replaced, the roofing guy was telling
me that I could only use the lighter tiles to replace the wood shake
roof, as the regular tiles used in new construction were too heavy. So
the actual frame and roof of the new houses are stronger than the older
houses, even as the non-structural materials decline in quality.

They are all pre-fab and trucked in for maximum cheapness. The central
A/C units are at the absolute bottom or the legal EPA energy SEER
ratings and there is barely any insulation in the new homes. Since I
have watched this go from a field to an el-cheapo housing development,
starting around $290,000 for a 1,200 square foot house on a 60 by 80
foot piece of dirt, I know just how bad they are built. One day it
rained heavily on the bare wood rooftops and the next day they were
sealing in the water with the roofing paper. Those are not houses I
would buy even at half price.

What _has_ happened is that the illegal alien labor has made working as
a construction worker no longer a living wage job, except where the
developer is required to use only union workers.

Union workers, here. ROTFLMAO.
Wetback illegals, , mostly, and nobody that even speaks English.
The foreman is a bilingual Mexican so he can translate the developers
instructions to the crews. I hate even riding through there anymore
since they all have their truck radios on full blast with the doors open
playing the same Mexican music over and over and over......
Any and all American union workers have been displaced here.
Bill Baka