Need a source for 'guitar' type plugs and cabling

[RobertMacy]

Sorry to post here but can't gain access to sci.electronics.repair for
some reason

I need 1/4 inch TIP/RING/SHIELD plugs with FULL METAL HOUSING! and small
diameter shoulders.

I went to MusiciansFriend which looked good, but their website won't work
on our systems, so called, described what I needed, convinced they
understood, ordered parts, promptly received package to find,...wrong
connectors! only have the tip and shield, a mono plug.

I need to replace full metal housing ones [which from descriptions
MusiciansFreind also carry], but these connectors are too wide and when
inserted into the row they not just touch each other, but prevent good
seating by forcing the physical position to be wonky. PLUS! and this is
really important, within a year their internal plastic parts simply
crumbled away making EVERY connector fail, cable falls out of housing,
retention of anything lost. These were those highly touted, somewhat
expensive metal ones which have a comfortable grip when removing from the
chassis jack.

So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with FULL
metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?

 

[Syd Rumpo]

On 17/10/2013 16:44, RobertMacy wrote:

So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with
FULL metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?

Neutrik, here's one...

http://uk.farnell.com/neutrik/np3x/plug-6-35mm-3pole/dp/8314560

Cheers

 

[Roberto Waltman]

So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with FULL
metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?

Don't know if those are "narrower":

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103417
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103987

 

[Robert Baer]

Sorry to post here but can't gain access to sci.electronics.repair for
some reason

I need 1/4 inch TIP/RING/SHIELD plugs with FULL METAL HOUSING! and small
diameter shoulders.

I went to MusiciansFriend which looked good, but their website won't
work on our systems, so called, described what I needed, convinced they
understood, ordered parts, promptly received package to find,...wrong
connectors! only have the tip and shield, a mono plug.

I need to replace full metal housing ones [which from descriptions
MusiciansFreind also carry], but these connectors are too wide and when
inserted into the row they not just touch each other, but prevent good
seating by forcing the physical position to be wonky. PLUS! and this is
really important, within a year their internal plastic parts simply
crumbled away making EVERY connector fail, cable falls out of housing,
retention of anything lost. These were those highly touted, somewhat
expensive metal ones which have a comfortable grip when removing from
the chassis jack.

So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with
FULL metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?

Do not know about dimensions, but look at Mouser 523-TS3PN-AU
(Amphenol 55010170-00-2) which is a stereo 1/4 inch "full metal jacket".
Lots of choices in the smaller stuff.

 

[Joerg]

Sorry to post here but can't gain access to sci.electronics.repair for
some reason

I need 1/4 inch TIP/RING/SHIELD plugs with FULL METAL HOUSING! and small
diameter shoulders.

I went to MusiciansFriend which looked good, but their website won't
work on our systems, so called, described what I needed, convinced they
understood, ordered parts, promptly received package to find,...wrong
connectors! only have the tip and shield, a mono plug.

I need to replace full metal housing ones [which from descriptions
MusiciansFreind also carry], but these connectors are too wide and when
inserted into the row they not just touch each other, but prevent good
seating by forcing the physical position to be wonky. PLUS! and this is
really important, within a year their internal plastic parts simply
crumbled away making EVERY connector fail, cable falls out of housing,
retention of anything lost. These were those highly touted, somewhat
expensive metal ones which have a comfortable grip when removing from
the chassis jack.

So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with
FULL metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?

This is usually "the good stuff" but not cheap:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSCableCon/

Here is a right-angle version:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSMRAConnSW/

Good shop, we've ordered from there for our church.

 

[Phil Allison]

"RobertMacy"

Sorry to post here but can't gain access to sci.electronics.repair for
some reason

I need 1/4 inch TIP/RING/SHIELD plugs with FULL METAL HOUSING! and small
diameter shoulders.

** The usual screw on, metal cover size is 12.4mm - ie tad under 1/2 inch.

Any smaller than that is gonna be very hard to find.

The most common use is for stereo headphones, not guitars.



.... Phil

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

Den torsdag den 17. oktober 2013 19.59.19 UTC+2 skrev Joerg:

Sorry to post here but can't gain access to sci.electronics.repair for

some reason

I need 1/4 inch TIP/RING/SHIELD plugs with FULL METAL HOUSING! and small

diameter shoulders.

I went to MusiciansFriend which looked good, but their website won't

work on our systems, so called, described what I needed, convinced they

understood, ordered parts, promptly received package to find,...wrong

connectors! only have the tip and shield, a mono plug.
I need to replace full metal housing ones [which from descriptions

MusiciansFreind also carry], but these connectors are too wide and when

inserted into the row they not just touch each other, but prevent good

seating by forcing the physical position to be wonky. PLUS! and this is

really important, within a year their internal plastic parts simply

crumbled away making EVERY connector fail, cable falls out of housing,

retention of anything lost. These were those highly touted, somewhat

expensive metal ones which have a comfortable grip when removing from

the chassis jack.
So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch

plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with

FULL metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?

This is usually "the good stuff" but not cheap:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSCableCon/



Here is a right-angle version:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSMRAConnSW/



Good shop, we've ordered from there for our church.

it has (at least the right angled has) that useless crimp strain relief

this is the good stuff:
http://www.neutrik.com/en/audio/plugs-and-jacks/px-series/

and the price is about the same at mouser

-Lasse

 

[Ecnerwal]

So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with FULL
metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?

A couple of decently-priced (and not too bad on shipping) pro-audio
shops I know of, one or the other of which I actually bought some stuff
from. Be careful about confusing "inexpensive" and "cheap" - cheap is
just cheap, and is usually expensive (fell apart in a year - spiffy.)
Chinese counterfeit Neutrik stuff is terrible, and is barely less
expensive than actual Neutrik from Lichtenstein, for instance.

http://www.daleproaudio.com/c-669-14-trs.aspx

http://www.redco.com/TRS-Connectors/
http://www.redco.com/Longframe-Military-TRS-Connectors/

 

[Joerg]

Den torsdag den 17. oktober 2013 19.59.19 UTC+2 skrev Joerg:

Sorry to post here but can't gain access to sci.electronics.repair for
some reason
I need 1/4 inch TIP/RING/SHIELD plugs with FULL METAL HOUSING! and small
diameter shoulders.
I went to MusiciansFriend which looked good, but their website won't
work on our systems, so called, described what I needed, convinced they
understood, ordered parts, promptly received package to find,...wrong
connectors! only have the tip and shield, a mono plug.
I need to replace full metal housing ones [which from descriptions
MusiciansFreind also carry], but these connectors are too wide and when
inserted into the row they not just touch each other, but prevent good
seating by forcing the physical position to be wonky. PLUS! and this is
really important, within a year their internal plastic parts simply
crumbled away making EVERY connector fail, cable falls out of housing,
retention of anything lost. These were those highly touted, somewhat
expensive metal ones which have a comfortable grip when removing from
the chassis jack.
So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with
FULL metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?

This is usually "the good stuff" but not cheap:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSCableCon/



Here is a right-angle version:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSMRAConnSW/



Good shop, we've ordered from there for our church.

it has (at least the right angled has) that useless crimp strain relief

this is the good stuff:
http://www.neutrik.com/en/audio/plugs-and-jacks/px-series/

and the price is about the same at mouser

I've used Neutrik in a design last year, good stuff, and I would have
recommended these. However, they bulge out at the cable end and that
looks like the issue Robert had.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

Den torsdag den 17. oktober 2013 21.44.29 UTC+2 skrev Joerg:

Den torsdag den 17. oktober 2013 19.59.19 UTC+2 skrev Joerg:

RobertMacy wrote:

Sorry to post here but can't gain access to sci.electronics.repair for
some reason
I need 1/4 inch TIP/RING/SHIELD plugs with FULL METAL HOUSING! and small
diameter shoulders.
I went to MusiciansFriend which looked good, but their website won't
work on our systems, so called, described what I needed, convinced they
understood, ordered parts, promptly received package to find,...wrong
connectors! only have the tip and shield, a mono plug.
I need to replace full metal housing ones [which from descriptions
MusiciansFreind also carry], but these connectors are too wide and when
inserted into the row they not just touch each other, but prevent good
seating by forcing the physical position to be wonky. PLUS! and this is
really important, within a year their internal plastic parts simply
crumbled away making EVERY connector fail, cable falls out of housing,
retention of anything lost. These were those highly touted, somewhat
expensive metal ones which have a comfortable grip when removing from
the chassis jack.
So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with
FULL metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?


This is usually "the good stuff" but not cheap:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSCableCon/



Here is a right-angle version:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSMRAConnSW/



Good shop, we've ordered from there for our church.

it has (at least the right angled has) that useless crimp strain relief
this is the good stuff:

http://www.neutrik.com/en/audio/plugs-and-jacks/px-series/

and the price is about the same at mouser

I've used Neutrik in a design last year, good stuff, and I would have

recommended these. However, they bulge out at the cable end and that

looks like the issue Robert had.

Yes the "normal" ones (C type) are wider at the cable end,
PX is "slimline" only 14.5mm

-Lasse

 

[RobertMacy]

,,,snip....]

Neutrik, here's one...

http://uk.farnell.com/neutrik/np3x/plug-6-35mm-3pole/dp/8314560

Cheers

Thanks for the URL. will check into it.

I am VERY happy to report that just got off line with MusiciansFriend and
they are shipping me the items I need. Culmination is that they have taken
care of me very quickly, I'm happy and they're happy.

Basically, reached a US citizen every call, and the last one took care of
everything. So, I'll probably use them again.

Again,
MusiciansFriend == GOOD

 

[RobertMacy]

...snip....

Switchcraft comes to mind, [maybe not inexpensive]:

http://www.switchcraft.com/productsummary.aspx?Parent=75

what's the largest diameter handle you can stand?

WOW! that's HUGE!!! even biggger than the one that does NOT fit!

Right style, though,

I am VERY happy to report that just got off line with MusiciansFriend and
they are shipping me the items I need. Culmination is that they have taken
care of me very quickly, I'm happy and they're happy.

Basically, reached a US citizen every call, and the last one took care of
everything. So, I'll probably use them again.

Again,
MusiciansFriend == GOOD

 

[RobertMacy]

Do not know about dimensions, but look at Mouser 523-TS3PN-AU
(Amphenol 55010170-00-2) which is a stereo 1/4 inch "full metal jacket".
Lots of choices in the smaller stuff.

For some reason these 'new' websites hang, or crash, all our systems, and
Mouser is one of them, so can't go surfing around there.


I am VERY happy to report that just got off line with MusiciansFriend and
they are shipping me the items I need. Culmination is that they have taken
care of me very quickly, I'm happy and they're happy.

Basically, reached a US citizen every call, and the last one took care of
everything. So, I'll probably use them again.

Again,
MusiciansFriend == GOOD

 

[RobertMacy]

Don't know if those are "narrower":

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103417
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103987

Thank you for the URLs but you again reinforce by major battles with
today's vendors. After 40 minutes THAT URL and their websites do NOTHING
on all of our systems! I'm lucky didn't crash our system.


I am VERY happy to report that just got off line with MusiciansFriend and
they are shipping me the items I need. Culmination is that they have taken
care of me very quickly, I'm happy and they're happy.

Basically, reached a US citizen every call, and the last one took care of
everything. So, I'll probably use them again.

Again,
MusiciansFriend == GOOD

 

[RobertMacy]

This is usually "the good stuff" but not cheap:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSCableCon/

Here is a right-angle version:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSMRAConnSW/

Good shop, we've ordered from there for our church.

Thank you for the URLs lloks like JUST what I need, however....

I am VERY happy to report that just got off line with MusiciansFriend and
they are shipping me the items I need. Culmination is that they have taken
care of me very quickly, I'm happy and they're happy.

Basically, reached a US citizen every call, and the last one took care of
everything. So, I'll probably use them again.

Again,
MusiciansFriend == GOOD

 

[RobertMacy]

** The usual screw on, metal cover size is 12.4mm - ie tad under 1/2
inch.

Any smaller than that is gonna be very hard to find.

The most common use is for stereo headphones, not guitars.



... Phil

True, through naivete I've been using the wrong terminology. However...

I am VERY happy to report that just got off line with MusiciansFriend and
they are shipping me the items I need. Culmination is that they have taken
care of me very quickly, I'm happy and they're happy.

Basically, reached a US citizen every call, and the last one took care of
everything. So, I'll probably use them again.

Again,
MusiciansFriend == GOOD

 

[RobertMacy]

this is the good stuff:
http://www.neutrik.com/en/audio/plugs-and-jacks/px-series/

and the price is about the same at mouser

-Lasse

Yes, looks great, however,

I am VERY happy to report that just got off line with MusiciansFriend and
they are shipping me the items I need. Culmination is that they have taken
care of me very quickly, I'm happy and they're happy.

Basically, reached a US citizen every call, and the last one took care of
everything. So, I'll probably use them again.

Again,
MusiciansFriend == GOOD

 

[RobertMacy]

A couple of decently-priced (and not too bad on shipping) pro-audio
shops I know of, one or the other of which I actually bought some stuff
from. Be careful about confusing "inexpensive" and "cheap" - cheap is
just cheap, and is usually expensive (fell apart in a year - spiffy.)
Chinese counterfeit Neutrik stuff is terrible, and is barely less
expensive than actual Neutrik from Lichtenstein, for instance.

http://www.daleproaudio.com/c-669-14-trs.aspx

http://www.redco.com/TRS-Connectors/
http://www.redco.com/Longframe-Military-TRS-Connectors/

I couldn't get thoe URLs to work, either [meaning, goes there and then
just sits, or worse crashes], so gave up, but TRS is a good connector
company.


I am VERY happy to report that just got off line with MusiciansFriend and
they are shipping me the items I need. Culmination is that they have taken
care of me very quickly, I'm happy and they're happy.

Basically, reached a US citizen every call, and the last one took care of
everything. So, I'll probably use them again.

Again,
MusiciansFriend == GOOD

 

[RobertMacy]

I've used Neutrik in a design last year, good stuff, and I would have
recommended these. However, they bulge out at the cable end and that
looks like the issue Robert had.

If neutrik is what I've been using, it's CRAP!!!! easy to grab, nice
tilt, BUT!!! in one year the plastic all crumbled releasing the cables,
connections, etc plus all wonky becaus the crowd eahc other in the
instrument when plugged in. Couldn't even glue parts back together,
because touch and crumbles more.

 

[Joerg]

Den torsdag den 17. oktober 2013 21.44.29 UTC+2 skrev Joerg:

Den torsdag den 17. oktober 2013 19.59.19 UTC+2 skrev Joerg:
RobertMacy wrote:
Sorry to post here but can't gain access to sci.electronics.repair for
some reason
I need 1/4 inch TIP/RING/SHIELD plugs with FULL METAL HOUSING! and small
diameter shoulders.
I went to MusiciansFriend which looked good, but their website won't
work on our systems, so called, described what I needed, convinced they
understood, ordered parts, promptly received package to find,...wrong
connectors! only have the tip and shield, a mono plug.
I need to replace full metal housing ones [which from descriptions
MusiciansFreind also carry], but these connectors are too wide and when
inserted into the row they not just touch each other, but prevent good
seating by forcing the physical position to be wonky. PLUS! and this is
really important, within a year their internal plastic parts simply
crumbled away making EVERY connector fail, cable falls out of housing,
retention of anything lost. These were those highly touted, somewhat
expensive metal ones which have a comfortable grip when removing from
the chassis jack.
So anybody know a good [inexpensive] source for 'stereo' guitar 1/4 inch
plugs with tip, ring, shield [for shielded twisted pair cabling] with
FULL metal housing? yet, rather small gripping diameter?
This is usually "the good stuff" but not cheap:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSCableCon/
Here is a right-angle version:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TRSMRAConnSW/
Good shop, we've ordered from there for our church.
it has (at least the right angled has) that useless crimp strain relief
this is the good stuff:
http://www.neutrik.com/en/audio/plugs-and-jacks/px-series/
and the price is about the same at mouser

I've used Neutrik in a design last year, good stuff, and I would have

recommended these. However, they bulge out at the cable end and that

looks like the issue Robert had.

Yes the "normal" ones (C type) are wider at the cable end,
PX is "slimline" only 14.5mm

I don't think Robert can accommodate 14.5mm diameter since that is quite
large.