My Vintage Dream PC

[Archimedes' Lever]

I was told that the file system would include keywords for indexing
so that "find"s would work faster. You don't need all that in
binaries. Most of the files on systems are in non-human-readable
format. This stuff doesn't belong in the UFD nor RIBs (DECisms).



/BAH

You really are not very modern. I'll bet you even look like a late
1800's school marm. That is the only DECism that rubbed off on you. It
shows... blatantly.

 

[Martin Brown]

Both Vista and Windows 7 have hardware requirements in excess of those
of Windows 98.

Windows 98 can play DVDs. What important feature does Vista have, or
did XP have, that Windows 98 was lacking? This is just a plot to grab

XP had properly working USB 2.0 drivers and user accounts. Win98 SE was
marginal at best, but massively better than the intervening 2k and ME.

Prior to 98SE Unstable Serial Bus best described it. Even today you can
find USB devices that do not get on with suspend or screensaver modes.

more money off of people - by making the new computers that come out
have a new operating system, new software gets targeted for the new
platform, and so people are eventually forced to upgrade for
interoperability reasons, even when their old computers are capable of
doing the work desired.

I still have a couple of machines with 98SE installed for retro
compatibility testing. A fair number of antique (>5year old) scientific
instruments do not get on with newer Windows OS's.

Vista's most annoying feature is that a whole lot of old HP kit like
scanners is not supported on it. I would not recommend upgrading to it
but it is perfectly usable if a little resource hungry.

By comparison Office 2007 is a barely usable unstable unreliable mess.

Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[FatBytestard]

Quadibloc Inscribed thus:


I agree with you ! I stopped running Wincrap years ago.

Some retard said that about DOS too. He is now on a Windows box as
well.

Reluctant retards always make me laugh. Especially when it relates to
technology.

Where was all the scrutiny with cell phones? Oh... that's right... you
all simply BUY what is out there, and now CONTINUALLY take it up the ass
by the phone companies. You, and all the parents that give their kids a
cell phone, are the biggest part of the problem. You are the idiots that
inflate cell phone usage rates.

Where is all you advanced analysis on that?

Is that all you retarded twits got to do is jump on Bill Gates because
he made a successful business and product line? What a bunch of total,
run in the streets like idiots retards you are.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

Vista's most annoying feature is that a whole lot of old HP kit like
scanners is not supported on it.

Which is an HP thing, not an MS thing.

HP is notorious for dropping devices they no longer feel like
supporting. My less than 5 year old printer is a perfect example, and it
got dropped even before Vista came out.

 

[Tim McCaffrey]

I agree with Mr. Pfeiffer. If an assembler is developed, then *no* more
programming in machine code. But *when* was the assembler developed???

I knew an "auld fart" who took an early computer course at Michigan
State University in 1954. He was programming some incarnation of an
Illiac. In this early course, they programmed in *absolute* machine
code. He talked about adding several no-ops at the end of each loop, so
that more instructions could be added *without* changing the branch
address by simply replacing no-ops.

That must have been the MISTIC, a locally built copy of the ILLIAC.

 

[Tim McCaffrey]

I suspect getting time on one of those 5 computers would be like
getting observation time on the hubble.

I should ask around the MV plant and see if there's anyone left that
remembers.

scott

Here is a memoir that talks about some of this, IIRC.

http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/B5000-AlgolRWaychoff.html

- Tim

 

[jmfbahciv]

No shit.

Can Windows 98 play HD form factor DVDs? Are there drivers for my SAS
controller? NO! Are there drivers for my simple HD DVD/BluRay drive?
I didn't even check. Why? because I have a brain. What about the new
USB specs?


An order of magnitude more secure, and a more robust kernel, which
means that a person's productivity goes up. For engineering, those hours
are expensive, so productivity numbers matter.


You are just an idiot that doesn't *really* know what computers and
computing is about, despite any technical knowledge you may have gained
in recent years. (that is the same as the remark you just made).

Your grasp of the overall paradigm... the bigger picture... is
tragically flawed by a gang boy retard mentality where you believe the
bullshit you hear at every gossip session you participate in. Folks would
rather hear the truth, not your bent brained opinion.

<snort> You wouldn't be able to identify a bit god if he flopped on you.

/BAH

 

[jmfbahciv]

Where are they in a Reiser FS or other Linux journaling file system?

Why do they have to be embedded in the file system?

/BAH

 

[jmfbahciv]

On 16 Jun 2009 09:05:52 -0700, Patrick Scheible <[email protected]>
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
[piggypacking a post since I can't find the correct one]
For John Larkin:
If you want to find out how much code any EXE file has, do
the following commands:
GET FOO.EXE
CORE
It should report how many K there is. But this doesn't
give the real size when the EXE is running.
/BAH
Or just PIP FOO.EXE/L ?
John
good grief, no.
/BAH
Why not? Because it includes overlays?
Real programmers don't use overlays.
Why don't you simply do what I suggested instead of arguing.
Look up what a /L does.
/BAH
You don't make much of an effort to be helpful, do you?
You are more than annoying. A directory of the file
doesn't give you an idea of how the EXE will be mapped
in core.
I have been helpful as best as I can. I've answered your
question. Why you cannot comprehend that there is no
precise answer is beyond me. I'm beginning to think
that you are asking just to be a RPITA.
It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to give a range. The
biggest I saw was xxx, the smallest was yyy.
-- Patrick
What she keeps saying is pretty much "I have more experience than you,
so I'm right and you're wrong", but otherwise fact-free.

Where did I say I was right and about what? Just becuase you pick
the one question which cannot be answered with a constant, you have
concluded....

Now really **** off.

/BAH

I think you are dreaming. Now **** off back to astro.amateur, astro
Arsehole!!!

I'm not posting from there.

/BAH

 

[FatBytestard]

<snort> You wouldn't be able to identify a bit god if he flopped on you.

/BAH

Said the School Marm wanna be. The only part you got right is the ugly
school marm look, miss pris.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

Why do they have to be embedded in the file system?

/BAH

Do you even know whether they are or not, miss 30 years behind the rest?

 

[jmfbahciv]

Do you even know whether they are or not, miss 30 years behind the rest?

Laws of physics haven't changed. Neither has the purpose of an OS.

/BAH

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

Laws of physics haven't changed.

Idiot. By those laws, that WOULD be the best place for the indexing.

You just shot yourself in the head, much less the foot.

I guess you want to use a pack of post-its.

Neither has the purpose of an OS.

Another item which eludes your grasp. excruciatingly obviously so.

Sigh indeed. Bwuahahahahahahahah!

 

[Christopher C. Stacy]

Several systems did it that way. TOPS-20 did it before VMS, but I
wouldn't be surprised if other system did it before TOPS-20.

ITS in the 1960s (PDP-10 and PDP-6) invented the versioning file system.

 

[jmfbahciv]

ITS in the 1960s (PDP-10 and PDP-6) invented the versioning file system.

Do you remember why it was put into ITS?

/BAH

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

Geese, who knew? And to think, I used to rebuild them as a hobby for
my '66 GTOs.

Yes, compression requires work.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Geese, who knew? And to think, I used to rebuild them as a hobby for
my '66 GTOs.

I had a '65 tri-power with a close ratio 4spd, Hurst shifter and 6cyl
Tempest brakes. Summer fun on the NJ Turnpike when brake fade checked
in.