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Spehro Pefhany

I came into this thread late and have been reading it at deja-news.
If I understand correctly what people are saying, the series and a
paperback reprint of it are out of print and there was a CD ROM digital
reprint that is also out of print.

How many disks were used for the CD ROM edition? What are the chances that
it will be reissued at a reasonable rate? Also, what kind of files is it
kept in? I'm always concerned about how I would read it on a Linux system.

There are two disks (CD-ROM, not DVD). I'm still waiting for
confirmation that it's actually going to be shipped-- I called before
placing the order and they said only one unit was actually available.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Keith Williams

hill_a@t_rowland-dotties- said:
Jim Thompson wrote...

Are you using the term "poll tax" as per the definition above,
having to do with being able to vote, despite unpaid bills? Ahem.

I thought this strange too, but so much is strange in the East. ;-)
Apparently Taxyourtwoshits still has (or did until recently) a "poll
tax", though it's not related to elections, rather a flat tax charged
to everyone without regard to income or property valuation.

From: http://www.fguide.org/Bulletin/polltax.htm

"A Poll Tax Up North"

"A lump sum tax, also known as a poll tax because itis
applied to each person rather than proportionately to
income or property, is among the most regressive forms
of taxation."

The Massachusetts Constitution contains language about polls and poll
tax, as well. I don't pretend to understand it though.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote...

No, I've liked most Texans I've known, and I have enjoyed all
of my dozen or so visits to various places in Texas. But, I
really do dislike Bush and his crowd. You should as well.

Why is that? Elaborate. What is it about Bush that has you so
torqued?

...Jim Thompson
 
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Jim Thompson

I thought this strange too, but so much is strange in the East. ;-)
Apparently Taxyourtwoshits still has (or did until recently) a "poll
tax", though it's not related to elections, rather a flat tax charged
to everyone without regard to income or property valuation.

From: http://www.fguide.org/Bulletin/polltax.htm

"A Poll Tax Up North"

"A lump sum tax, also known as a poll tax because itis
applied to each person rather than proportionately to
income or property, is among the most regressive forms
of taxation."

The Massachusetts Constitution contains language about polls and poll
tax, as well. I don't pretend to understand it though.

When I was a student up there, it was an ancient holdover, taxing ONLY
males, IIRC.

Knowing Taxa2shits, they probably just renamed it... they never had a
tax they didn't want to keep.

I suspect Win blames Bush for the high taxes in Taxa2shits ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Winfield Hill

Keith Williams wrote...
win hill says...

I haven't been able to find the evidence.
I thought this strange too, but so much is strange in the East. ;-)
Apparently Taxyourtwoshits still has (or did until recently) a
"poll tax", though it's not related to elections, rather a flat tax
charged to everyone without regard to income or property valuation.
From: http://www.fguide.org/Bulletin/polltax.htm
"A Poll Tax Up North"
"A lump sum tax, also known as a poll tax because it is
applied to each person rather than proportionately to
income or property, is among the most regressive forms
of taxation."

To my mind that's a perversion of the language. With that
definition the fixed cost to register a car, get a hunting
license, pay annual corporation fees, etc., are poll taxes.
A stupid use of the word, really, and belittling the true
problem of a poll tax discouraging poor people from voting.

Furthermore, by that definition every state has poll taxes.
 
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Keith Williams

hill_a@t_rowland-dotties- said:
Keith Williams wrote...

I haven't been able to find the evidence.


To my mind that's a perversion of the language. With that
definition the fixed cost to register a car, get a hunting
license, pay annual corporation fees, etc., are poll taxes.
A stupid use of the word, really, and belittling the true
problem of a poll tax discouraging poor people from voting.

Well, I'm just reporting what a quick web search found. You fix it.
You're the masshole here. ;-)
Furthermore, by that definition every state has poll taxes.

Taxyourtwoshits is the one that still calls them "poll taxes", perhaps
for historic reasons (it's in the MA Constitution).
 
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Jim Thompson

Keith Williams wrote...

I haven't been able to find the evidence.


To my mind that's a perversion of the language. With that
definition the fixed cost to register a car, get a hunting
license, pay annual corporation fees, etc., are poll taxes.
A stupid use of the word, really, and belittling the true
problem of a poll tax discouraging poor people from voting.

Furthermore, by that definition every state has poll taxes.

It definitely was a poll (head) tax.

You're beating a dead horse. Instead please address why you call Bush
an "asshole".

...Jim Thompson
 
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Winfield Hill

Jim Thompson wrote...
It definitely was a poll (head) tax.
You're beating a dead horse.

Fine, if you say so, you were here six or so years before me,
and I've been trying to learn exactly what it was and how it
worked, from your direct experience. You've not explained.
Instead please address why you call Bush an "asshole".

Sorry, Jim, I'm not going there again. I've written
volumes on the subject, most of which you've probably
read, and misrepresented too. It's all in the s.e.d.
archives at any rate, there's no need to redundantly
rerun the argument again.

You want some serious George Bush material to read
and get your head around, try Matthew Rycroft's memo,
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html
 
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Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote...

Fine, if you say so, you were here six or so years before me,
and I've been trying to learn exactly what it was and how it
worked, from your direct experience. You've not explained.

I'm zeroing in. It apparently was a Cambridge (city) tax. I find
references, but no date brackets after its inception in the 1930's.

It appears that _city_ poll/head taxes were a regular occurrence
throughout Massa2shits.
Sorry, Jim, I'm not going there again. I've written
volumes on the subject, most of which you've probably
read, and misrepresented too.

Don't you get an ulcer from all that pontificating ?:)
It's all in the s.e.d.
archives at any rate, there's no need to redundantly
rerun the argument again.

You want some serious George Bush material to read
and get your head around, try Matthew Rycroft's memo,
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html

My, Oh, My, Oh, My! Such a reliable newspaper... NOT!

I've read that before... sounds like a bunch of double-speak to me.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Winfield Hill

Jim Thompson wrote...
My, Oh, My, Oh, My! Such a reliable newspaper... NOT!

The "article" consists simply of an exact copy of the memo.
Its authenticity has not been disputed by the White House.
I'm sure they're not happy it's leaked out, but they don't
claim it's wrong, AFAIK. Sounds pretty reliable to me.
 
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Tim Shoppa

It appears that _city_ poll/head taxes were a regular occurrence

Maybe. The recent trend is to tax visitors instead of residents. They
can't vote you out, so why not tax 'em?

Usually done as a tax/use fee on car rentals, hotel rooms, etc. Some
places can be pretty steep, with the "tax" coming to $20-$30 a day just
for visiting.

Tim.
 
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Keith Williams

hill_a@t_rowland-dotties- said:
Keith Williams wrote...

A smiley? You think it's funny to insult people?
Insult? No, think of it as a term of endearment. It _is_ the common
name for those who were born or reside MA, around these parts. ...even
among themselves. Some of my best friends are massholes. ;-)
 
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Jim Thompson

Maybe. The recent trend is to tax visitors instead of residents. They
can't vote you out, so why not tax 'em?

Usually done as a tax/use fee on car rentals, hotel rooms, etc. Some
places can be pretty steep, with the "tax" coming to $20-$30 a day just
for visiting.

Tim.

Yep. It's always reimbursed by my clients, but it still bugs me...
14% tax on my recent hotel stay in Pittsburgh, PA; and close to 50% in
"airport fees" and taxes on the car rental :-(

...Jim Thompson
 
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Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote...

The "article" consists simply of an exact copy of the memo.

Oh, Really? How do you assert its authenticity?
Its authenticity has not been disputed by the White House.

Do they acknowledge the memo at all?
I'm sure they're not happy it's leaked out, but they don't
claim it's wrong, AFAIK. Sounds pretty reliable to me.

Left-wing loonie thought process... memo not acknowledged one way or
another... therefore it must be true?

...Jim Thompson
 
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Winfield Hill

Jim Thompson wrote...
Do they acknowledge the memo at all?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8709.htm
http://www.spinwatch.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=881

No, as reported, a Whitehouse spokesman "acknowledged"
the document (which was the minutes of a meeting held
three years ago at 10 Downing Street written by Matthew
Rycroft who was a foreign policy advisor to Tony Blair),
saying, IIRC, they "do not dispute its contents." More
important, in the huge bru-haha this created in British
headlines for their election (the supposedly-liberal US
press barely paid attention), SFAIK its accuracy was not
disputed by the individuals who were in the meeting and
who received the document. It would have been in the
interest of Blair's government to dispute the document,
which "showed a coordinated effort by the US and the UK
to manipulate Hussein into giving them justification for
declaring war."
Left-wing loonie thought process... memo not acknowledged
one way or another... therefore it must be true?

Right-wing head in the sand, more likely.

Here's a quote, "Not only did Bush and his top aides
lie about their approach to the alleged threat posed
by Iraq, but they continued to lie about that process
in the war's aftermath." Here, read this:
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=426
 
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Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote... [snip]
Left-wing loonie thought process... memo not acknowledged
one way or another... therefore it must be true?

Right-wing head in the sand, more likely.

Here's a quote, "Not only did Bush and his top aides
lie about their approach to the alleged threat posed
by Iraq, but they continued to lie about that process
in the war's aftermath." Here, read this:
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=426

If I want to listen to left-wing biased reporting I'll just choose Al
Franken... at least OCCASIONALLY he's actually funny... not very often
now though... he's gone venomously left-wing.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Jonathan Kirwan

Jim Thompson wrote... [snip]
Left-wing loonie thought process... memo not acknowledged
one way or another... therefore it must be true?

Right-wing head in the sand, more likely.

Here's a quote, "Not only did Bush and his top aides
lie about their approach to the alleged threat posed
by Iraq, but they continued to lie about that process
in the war's aftermath." Here, read this:
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=426

If I want to listen to left-wing biased reporting I'll just choose Al
Franken... at least OCCASIONALLY he's actually funny... not very often
now though... he's gone venomously left-wing.

...Jim Thompson

If one is willing to be selective in what they choose to examine, it
would be easy to show that the Earth is flat and the center of the
universe.

You are being selective with the evidence you consider, Jim.

Jon
 
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Winfield Hill

Jim Thompson wrote...
If I want to listen to left-wing biased reporting I'll just
choose Al Franken... at least OCCASIONALLY he's actually funny...
not very often now though... he's gone venomously left-wing.

Maybe, but that wasn't so much left-wing biased reporting as it
was a discussion of what the ramifications will be for Tony Blair
in England over the next few months. Our neo-right-wing press
isn't paying attention over here, so we have to go over there to
get the facts. The Brits are PISSED about the lying, heads are
going to roll, but we twiddle our thumbs and let Bush turn our
attention to a supposedly-urgent problem 20 to 30 years hence.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote... [snip]

Left-wing loonie thought process... memo not acknowledged
one way or another... therefore it must be true?

Right-wing head in the sand, more likely.

Here's a quote, "Not only did Bush and his top aides
lie about their approach to the alleged threat posed
by Iraq, but they continued to lie about that process
in the war's aftermath." Here, read this:
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=426

If I want to listen to left-wing biased reporting I'll just choose Al
Franken... at least OCCASIONALLY he's actually funny... not very often
now though... he's gone venomously left-wing.

...Jim Thompson

If one is willing to be selective in what they choose to examine, it
would be easy to show that the Earth is flat and the center of the
universe.

You are being selective with the evidence you consider, Jim.

Jon

Actually no. I read that article long before Win brought it up. It
has a smell of mendacity.

BTW, the Earth IS flat, at least as far as I can see ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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