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Robert L. Bass

152's weren't tail draggers...

Many 152's have been converted to tail draggers. Olson doesn't believe this
but he's never flown an airplane in his life.
 
F

Frank Olson

Robert L. Bass said:
Many 152's have been converted to tail draggers.

The "few" that have don't qualify as the "many" you imply.
Olson doesn't believe this but he's never flown an
airplane in his life.

Aux contraire, "friend". ISTR when you first brought up the matter, you
insisted (even argued) that the 152 *was* a taildragger. You brought up the
subject of "conversions" only after you posted the "typo - 150" message and
changed" your "toon" when I pointed you to the Cessna site. What's really
funny is that you also insisted that all you had to do was install special
main gear legs that "rake forward" to eliminate the nose wheel, when in fact
part of the actual conversion process requires physically moving the main
gear legs to the fuselage hardpoint under the main wing strut (the same one
they employ when you put the aircraft on floats). Your "knowledge" and
"experience" of flying didn't even include pulling on carb heat as a "first
measure" when the aircraft you "say" you were piloting experienced a sudden
loss of engine RPM's and started running rough.

As for my having "never flown an airplane", that falls into the same
category of "rants" as your saying I "work behind a counter at a small
distributor in B. C." or Paul's "wirless muzzling" ones. You fill this and
other newsgroups up with your lies, innuendo, and invective, then wonder why
it is people discount most of what you say (or wind up siding with the group
of people you frequently refer to as the "IB" in ASA). You're a sad,
paranoid, twisted, little man. If you weren't such an evil, malicious
bastard as well (sadly that's the truth, and *not* a flame), I'd feel as
sorry for you as I do for Paul.
 
F

Frank Olson

Actually I had you confused with Mark's old flame Thelma Sue
LOL!!


I'll never show respect to Third World tree hugging anti-war quiffs.
If it wasn't for John Candy hailing from there (man alive he was
hysterical) I'd be doing a tsunami dance in Montreal.
"Quiffs"??



You're old enough to be her grandfather ya sick bastard.

So??? I'd sit her on my knee and "nibble" here and there. I understand
chicks really dig "gum jobs"... :))

Who was invading canada? Post the link for me dammit.

Ummmm.... Dunno that we've been invaded recently. As far as I know
Madonna's still in California...

I saw further down in this thread your mention of a Bass ELK doozie and
it makes me wonder how you could have forgotten the Bass LYNX whopper
where he was talking about installing a second WIRED keypad for it.

You figure those complaints at the BBB have anything to do with his selling
a second keypad for it and then not issuing an RMA because the customer had
taken it out of the box and tried to connect it to power?? :))

His infamous tip & ring post is also amongst my favorites.

Ahhh... yes... but it doesn't hold a candle to the time he blatantly
plagerized the "gun cabinet contact" from the Sentrol Application Handbook.
Now *that* was truly a classic!!
 
C

Crash Gordon®

I had one yesterday in an old radx 2212 (iti xmtters) using those silly 1/2 AA 3.6 lithiums. Original owner never changed them, never called us, then sold the house, new owner didn't want to invest in new batteries on friday...guess what? he got to buy 4 from radio-shaft at 14.95 each on saturday. He coulda bought them from me on friday for a lot less...but noooooo.

Why don't people believe us? I know how long batts are gonna last.


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| | We've been getting 4-6 years on the CR123 lithums, pretty good with the heat
| we have out here...and we get low-batt signals from the points loonnng
| before they totally die...usually a week or two warning. With a 3 door/1pir
| system he'd be looking at a 30 buck battery investment every 5 years lets
| say...not bad.
|
|
| Yup that 2 week period before they die is why most manufacturers like
| lithium batteries, GE/ITI's used to last 6 - 7 years before dying.
|
|
 
M

Mark Leuck

I had one yesterday in an old radx 2212 (iti xmtters) using those silly 1/2
AA 3.6 lithiums. Original owner never changed them, never called us, then
sold the house, new owner didn't want to invest in new batteries on
friday...guess what? he got to buy 4 from radio-shaft at 14.95 each on
saturday. He coulda bought them from me on friday for a lot less...but
noooooo.

Why don't people believe us? I know how long batts are gonna last.


I can never find those damn things at Rat Shack, they do sell the 3 volt
lithiums for Honeywell around here tho, those ITI Techram batteries are
expensive but unlike most other companies life expectancy predictions they
really DO last 7 to 8 years.

I could be wrong but I think the receiver they made for that 2212 was just a
modified QuikBridge which meant that while the receiver itself supervised
the sensors for low batteries unless you tied the supervisory output to
another zone the panel never knew a sensor had a low battery
 
C

Crash Gordon®

Yah, I was shocked when Radio Shaft actually had some (a lot actually) but the price blew me away.

You may be right about the reciever as I did not get a low batt at all...just 2 pirs & 1 gb & 1 pt went faulted the next day. Didn't notice any supervisory wiring though. Back when we were installing them I was not out in the field much like I am now. Its a small white reciever with a led in the middle and double antennas out the top...didn't mess with it on friday.


|
| | I had one yesterday in an old radx 2212 (iti xmtters) using those silly 1/2
| AA 3.6 lithiums. Original owner never changed them, never called us, then
| sold the house, new owner didn't want to invest in new batteries on
| friday...guess what? he got to buy 4 from radio-shaft at 14.95 each on
| saturday. He coulda bought them from me on friday for a lot less...but
| noooooo.
|
| Why don't people believe us? I know how long batts are gonna last.
|
|
| I can never find those damn things at Rat Shack, they do sell the 3 volt
| lithiums for Honeywell around here tho, those ITI Techram batteries are
| expensive but unlike most other companies life expectancy predictions they
| really DO last 7 to 8 years.
|
| I could be wrong but I think the receiver they made for that 2212 was just a
| modified QuikBridge which meant that while the receiver itself supervised
| the sensors for low batteries unless you tied the supervisory output to
| another zone the panel never knew a sensor had a low battery
|
|
 
M

Mark Leuck

Yup thats a QuikBridge, it can be used by any alarm panel



Yah, I was shocked when Radio Shaft actually had some (a lot actually) but
the price blew me away.

You may be right about the reciever as I did not get a low batt at
all...just 2 pirs & 1 gb & 1 pt went faulted the next day. Didn't notice any
supervisory wiring though. Back when we were installing them I was not out
in the field much like I am now. Its a small white reciever with a led in
the middle and double antennas out the top...didn't mess with it on friday.


|
| | I had one yesterday in an old radx 2212 (iti xmtters) using those silly
1/2
| AA 3.6 lithiums. Original owner never changed them, never called us, then
| sold the house, new owner didn't want to invest in new batteries on
| friday...guess what? he got to buy 4 from radio-shaft at 14.95 each on
| saturday. He coulda bought them from me on friday for a lot less...but
| noooooo.
|
| Why don't people believe us? I know how long batts are gonna last.
|
|
| I can never find those damn things at Rat Shack, they do sell the 3 volt
| lithiums for Honeywell around here tho, those ITI Techram batteries are
| expensive but unlike most other companies life expectancy predictions they
| really DO last 7 to 8 years.
|
| I could be wrong but I think the receiver they made for that 2212 was just
a
| modified QuikBridge which meant that while the receiver itself supervised
| the sensors for low batteries unless you tied the supervisory output to
| another zone the panel never knew a sensor had a low battery
|
|
 
C

Crash Gordon®

Really...didn't know that...did ITI make the reciever...who's QuickBridge or is that the name of the model reciever??


| Yup thats a QuikBridge, it can be used by any alarm panel
|
|
|
| | Yah, I was shocked when Radio Shaft actually had some (a lot actually) but
| the price blew me away.
|
| You may be right about the reciever as I did not get a low batt at
| all...just 2 pirs & 1 gb & 1 pt went faulted the next day. Didn't notice any
| supervisory wiring though. Back when we were installing them I was not out
| in the field much like I am now. Its a small white reciever with a led in
| the middle and double antennas out the top...didn't mess with it on friday.
|
|
| | |
| | | | I had one yesterday in an old radx 2212 (iti xmtters) using those silly
| 1/2
| | AA 3.6 lithiums. Original owner never changed them, never called us, then
| | sold the house, new owner didn't want to invest in new batteries on
| | friday...guess what? he got to buy 4 from radio-shaft at 14.95 each on
| | saturday. He coulda bought them from me on friday for a lot less...but
| | noooooo.
| |
| | Why don't people believe us? I know how long batts are gonna last.
| |
| |
| | I can never find those damn things at Rat Shack, they do sell the 3 volt
| | lithiums for Honeywell around here tho, those ITI Techram batteries are
| | expensive but unlike most other companies life expectancy predictions they
| | really DO last 7 to 8 years.
| |
| | I could be wrong but I think the receiver they made for that 2212 was just
| a
| | modified QuikBridge which meant that while the receiver itself supervised
| | the sensors for low batteries unless you tied the supervisory output to
| | another zone the panel never knew a sensor had a low battery
| |
| |
|
|
|
 
R

Robert L Bass

Really...didn't know that...did ITI
make the reciever...

Yes, it's an ITI product. I occasionally get calls for them from homeowners
with older systems they want to upgrade.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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M

Mark Leuck

Use the Simon 3

Bob said:
Anyone prefer Simon3 over Powermax Plus, for a home install of a wireless
system? I may move in the future, and want to take the system with me.
Bob
 
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