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I've decided to become an electronic designer as a career choice: any advice?

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Frithiof Andreas Jensen

Ahem... They are getting truckloads of USD from their sales
of goods to the US. Even if they bought Yuan from those USD,
which they likely do, the someone who changed the USD to Yuan
now sits on truckloads of USD. So, these USD still have to
be spent or invested somehow.

Which they indeed do by gobbling up obscene amounts of T-Bonds; there is not
enough "economy" in China to dispose of the Yuan's one would have got by
changing the trade surplus!
 
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Spehro Pefhany

The Chinese are about to chrash & burn just like the Japanese did - and at
about the same time too, namely when everybody and dog are touting the
pending Chineese takeover of the world economy.

They have the Japanese experience to learn from. And they were smart
enough not to go for political reform without economic reform (and
thus entirely avoided the colossal Russian disaster). And conditions
are radically different from Japan of the 70s. For one thing, they
have enormous political clout, essentially for free, on account of the
way they are doing business.

It may indeed crash and burn, but I doubt it will be for anything like
the same reasons. One possibility is that there's not enough resources
and market in the world for all the stuff they can manufacture,
regardless of the price. They have to absorb scores of millions of
workers from the agricultural sector into more urban settings. So,
social unrest is a possibility if market forces can't supply the jobs.
Another possibility is economic collapse and rampant grassroots driven
protectionism in the West, with the same result. Protectionism won't
be initiated by the elite class, because too many people, and too many
important people as well, are making too much money off of cheap
Chinese labor, and, increasingly, by selling things there. But anyone
who owns stocks probably is affected-- allegedly that is a sizable
fraction of the US population (CNBC calls it the 'investor class').
... problem is, the whole Chinese show, impressive as it is, runs on
borrowed money and non-performing loans; after all, if there was real growth
in the Chinese economy they would not be so keen on buying up USD. They
would invest at home instead.

They are not buying USD or Euros. They are trying to get rid of them
into more stable and useful instruments (for example, by buying IBM's
laptop division or Maytag, as well as lots of BIG resource companies
in Australia, Canada and so on). China is the biggest destination for
investment funds in the world. The domestic market and growth figures
are quite impressive, although not yet nearly on a par with their
biggest customers - the EU, the US and Japan (in that order), it's
growing by 9.5%/year average over the last 25 years and the middle
class grows by the population of Hungary every year.
It will be fun to watch - maybe one should place a few bets with LEAP PUTS
on NASDAQ for good measure. The USD and then the Market will not like very
much that the Chinese stops buying it and pull the money back out to bail
out things at home.

Well, don't hold your breath. It's in nobody's interest to leave the
game. Nobody who matters anyhow. If bad things happen, I would expect
people to work together to prop things back up again.

I've been to two China conferences in the last month or so. There are
many interesting things afoot-- most of them positive for the world.
 
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Jim Thompson

David L. Jones wrote...

Right, you have to be brilliant, get educated, work hard, and do
that consistently for 40 years. But please, don't go over to the
dark side, as Jim has done.

Knock it off, Win. Please keep the _your_ politics separate from _my_
technological accomplishments.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Jim Thompson

Maybe you should reconsider and become a realtor ?

It's what I should have done.

Graham

My youngest son, the perpetual student, with degrees in Business,
Chemistry and Mechanical Engineering, does just exactly that... sells
real estate ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Winfield Hill

Jim Thompson wrote...
Knock it off, Win. Please keep the _your_ politics separate
from _my_ technological accomplishments.

Kindly knock off telling me what to do or say.
 
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Joerg

Hello,
The one with a hardboard base full of holes and cardboard circuit overlays
and hooks and spring to make all the connections?

Yes.


Oh the agony when eventually a leg fell off my AC128.

Oh, the agony when that happened to the freaking expensive AF116.

Regards, Joerg
 
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RST Engineering \(jw\)

It's easy. Just be prepared for an early morning pop quiz and late
afternoon lab every day for the rest of your life.

Jim
 
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Jim Thompson

It's easy. Just be prepared for an early morning pop quiz and late
afternoon lab every day for the rest of your life.

Jim
[snip]

Ain't that the truth?

Although you forgot: "...and late into the night" :)

...Jim Thompson
 
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RST Engineering \(jw\)

I meant the lab STARTED late in the afternoon. When it ends is up to you.

Pizza delivery and Jolt Cola are your friend.

{;-)


Jim


It's easy. Just be prepared for an early morning pop quiz and late
afternoon lab every day for the rest of your life.

Jim
[snip]

Ain't that the truth?

Although you forgot: "...and late into the night" :)
 
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Jim Thompson

I meant the lab STARTED late in the afternoon. When it ends is up to you.

Pizza delivery and Jolt Cola are your friend.

{;-)


Jim
[snip]

I liked it when MIT went to Tuesdays and Thursdays as laboratory days.
You could choose morning or afternoon... I always chose afternoon, in
case things went bad you could recover ;-)

Amazing how I used to live on 2 hours of sleep each night ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Noone

Paul said:
Hi all,
I've come to the conclusion that I'm good at electroniks and would
welcome any advice about how to succeed at it as jim thompson has
done.
thanks,
p.

Find a good mentor, even if you have to work for cheap/free. And read
everything you can find on the areas that interest you. Read one hour a
day, every day, even if you have to get up an hour early or stay up an
hour later to do it.

Then start designing, building, and debugging those things that you
think need to be built. That is the real training ground - it can not
be done in a vaacum.

If you do this outside of any employment, starting picking up the tools
of the trade off of eBay. Good older oscilloscopes are cheap and they
can give you a window into the inner workings.

Blakely
 
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Paul Burridge

Well, I was assuming Paul would consider an 'electronic childhood' a
must. And in Europe where he lives you can't usually go straight from
high school to the ivy league. First you have to report to a drill sergeant.

Hey, I was just kiddin'. In any event, I'm too old to embark on a new
career, even if I needed to (fortunately I don't).
 
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Paul Burridge

I had one of those kits too.

Me too. Great concept. Shame they're not made any more. I don't
suppose today's kids would want one, anyway. They've been brainwashed
by trashy TV into thinking such interests are uncool. :-(
 
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The Real Andy

I meant the lab STARTED late in the afternoon. When it ends is up to you.

Pizza delivery and Jolt Cola are your friend.

{;-)


Jim
[snip]

I liked it when MIT went to Tuesdays and Thursdays as laboratory days.
You could choose morning or afternoon... I always chose afternoon, in
case things went bad you could recover ;-)

Amazing how I used to live on 2 hours of sleep each night ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Try doing it as a part time mature age (I was 21-22) student. I would
do my best at trying to talk anyone out of it, it actually makes you
got mentally insane. I speak from experience.
 
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Jim Thompson

I meant the lab STARTED late in the afternoon. When it ends is up to you.

Pizza delivery and Jolt Cola are your friend.

{;-)


Jim
[snip]

I liked it when MIT went to Tuesdays and Thursdays as laboratory days.
You could choose morning or afternoon... I always chose afternoon, in
case things went bad you could recover ;-)

Amazing how I used to live on 2 hours of sleep each night ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Try doing it as a part time mature age (I was 21-22) student. I would
do my best at trying to talk anyone out of it, it actually makes you
got mentally insane. I speak from experience.

I was 22 when I graduated. I don't recall needing more sleep until I
was well into my thirties.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Rich Grise

A friend of mine has given up engineering and retrained as a plumber.
:cool:

Surgeon, looking at plumber's bill: "!?!!! I don't get that much for
_SURGERY_!"
Plumber: "Neither did I, when I was a surgeon."

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Frank Raffaeli

Jim said:
Knock it off, Win. Please keep the _your_ politics separate from _my_
technological accomplishments.

...Jim Thompson

By "Dark side", I thought he meant all that analog crap ;-)
Even my radios are software now ....

Frank Raffaeli
 
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