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How solder to very fine enamelled woven wires in earphone lead?

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quietguy

Back in the olden days when we wuz young we used to wind coils with litz wire
- which resembles the wire you describe - when soldering we didn't take the
trouble to bare each individual strand, but rather used very fine wet and dry
to gently clean the wire treating it as if it was one conductor. Worked
pretty well.

So, you could try this easy/lazy/can't be bothered way and see how it goes

David
 
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Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\

legg said:
Valley Girls and soldering irons, a curious mix.

RL

Valley Girls? More like IM freak. I was watching one young lady IMing
yesterday and it was pretty much shorthand for words, like u and b4 and
y not and etc. A really good way to ruin the english skills of the
younger generation.
 
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John Fields

Valley Girls? More like IM freak. I was watching one young lady IMing
yesterday and it was pretty much shorthand for words, like u and b4 and
y not and etc. A really good way to ruin the english skills of the
younger generation.
 
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Rich Grise

Valley Girls? More like IM freak. I was watching one young lady IMing
yesterday and it was pretty much shorthand for words, like u and b4 and y
not and etc. A really good way to ruin the english skills of the younger
generation.

On, I think, the Leno show the other night, they got a couple of IM
kiddies off the street, and two Morse Code operators that they'd hired,
and did a contest. They had two tables at opposite ends of the stage,
and they set a code guy and an IM kid at each table, and at one table
they had two identical messages, and the deal was, "Which is faster?"

Morse Code won. :) :) :)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

OMG! NOT if the old ones are still serviceable! NEVER let it hit the
ground!

Well, after he's done screwing around with that horrid wire, the box
will be hanging around his chin anyway. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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legg

Oh, don't be crabby. It's a lot of fine conductors woven around a
fibrous insulating core, and it's not very solderable. So it might as
well be tinsel.

So, what's the absolutely correct name for this construction?

In North America, cables are described by their application class, UL
Style number and construction.

As the wire that interests the OP is likely of Asian design and
origin, it may be described somewhat differently.

Stranding count, gauge, serving style, core and jacket material would
likely be required to fully describe flexible cable for consumer audio
applications.

It's an interesting thought, though; just what off-beat permutations
and combinations of events would be required for a Japanese
manufacturer to label something with a North-American colloquialism
associated with decorating material or dressmaking. Metalic threads
were not unknown in centuries past, so they'd likely have their own
terms for round or flattened varieties.

Last 'tinsel' wire I saw was in mono earplug leads, a la 1965. Biggest
problem was normal conductor surface contamination from outgassing
insulation, with age, and the further contaminating effects of burning
core material at soldering temperatures.

RL
 
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Chris Jones

Just watch out with that solder - through enamel. There is a warning in the
Farnell catalogue about toxic fumes (Toluene di-isocyanate or something
like that). It certainly hurts the eyes and so I'd use some kind of fume
extraction or at least open the window.
 
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