Fake parts - anyone seen anything like this?!

[Didi]

http://mcu-bg.com/mcu_site/exchange/chinauser_604.jpg

Someone posted this picture to a Bulgarian forum, I thought it
would be of interest to this group.

Can this be real?! Although why not, I hear there are plenty of
fake pharmaceuticals, after all, so why not some fake caps...

Dimiter

 

[John O'Flaherty]

http://mcu-bg.com/mcu_site/exchange/chinauser_604.jpg

Someone posted this picture to a Bulgarian forum, I thought it
would be of interest to this group.

Can this be real?! Although why not, I hear there are plenty of
fake pharmaceuticals, after all, so why not some fake caps...

Why bother putting anything in it at all? If it was hollow, it would
at least meet the voltage spec.

 

[Jure Newsgroups]

http://mcu-bg.com/mcu_site/exchange/chinauser_604.jpg

Someone posted this picture to a Bulgarian forum, I thought it
would be of interest to this group.

Can this be real?! Although why not, I hear there are plenty of
fake pharmaceuticals, after all, so why not some fake caps...

Dimiter

here is an interesting link:

http://www.aeri.com/counterfeits.html


Jure Z.

 

[Didi]

here is an interesting link:

http://www.aeri.com/counterfeits.html

Jure Z.

Thanks for posting this link - apparently I had a lot
of innocence to lose...

Dimiter

 

[Jan Panteltje]

http://mcu-bg.com/mcu_site/exchange/chinauser_604.jpg

Someone posted this picture to a Bulgarian forum, I thought it
would be of interest to this group.

Can this be real?! Although why not, I hear there are plenty of
fake pharmaceuticals, after all, so why not some fake caps...

Dimiter

Wow, new to me!

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

Thanks for posting this link - apparently I had a lot
of innocence to lose...
Dimiter

I didn't think anyone would bother counterfeiting low value items, but
that's apparently wrong.

Counterfeit Cisco hardware:
<http://www.usedcisco.com/press-my-esm_used_cisco_identifying_fake_chisco.aspx>
More links at bottom of page. I've gotten a few of these boards which
actually work for a few days and then blow up.

Counterfeit electrical products:
<http://www.nema.org/gov/anti-counterfeiting/news.cfm>

You can inscribe "counterfeit any_product_you_can_think_of" and Google
will find a warning, victim, or customs seizure. This looks like an
interesting resource:
<http://www.havocscope.com/Counterfeit/counterfeit.htm>

Note that it is perfectly acceptable to sell inferior Made in China
products, but not using established manufacturers names and
trademarks, which is counterfeiting. Thus, a junk replacement no-name
cell phone battery is acceptable, but the same battery with a label
made to look like it was from a US manufacturer, is not.

 

[Vladimir Vassilevsky]

http://mcu-bg.com/mcu_site/exchange/chinauser_604.jpg

Someone posted this picture to a Bulgarian forum, I thought it
would be of interest to this group.

Well, at least the capacitor is protected from leak and explosion.
I am just wondering if there is another smaller capacitor inside the
Rubicon...

Vladimir Vassilevsky
DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant
http://www.abvolt.com

 

[Jan Panteltje]

Well, at least the capacitor is protected from leak and explosion.
I am just wondering if there is another smaller capacitor inside the
Rubicon...

Russian dolls...

 

[qrk]

http://mcu-bg.com/mcu_site/exchange/chinauser_604.jpg

Someone posted this picture to a Bulgarian forum, I thought it
would be of interest to this group.

Can this be real?! Although why not, I hear there are plenty of
fake pharmaceuticals, after all, so why not some fake caps...

Dimiter

I got some fake Analog Devices parts. It should have been an
instrumentation amp, but got something else inside. All the stampings
on the outside were official AD and AD confirmed the markings. We had
a buyer who liked to buy from scalpers until I did a review of a
purchase trail on my project.

 

[WJLServo]

http://mcu-bg.com/mcu_site/exchange/chinauser_604.jpg

Someone posted this picture to a Bulgarian forum, I thought it
would be of interest to this group.

Can this be real?! Although why not, I hear there are plenty of
fake pharmaceuticals, after all, so why not some fake caps...

Dimiter

Curious! Google search doesn't find a company named "Master" as a
capacitor maker, though Rybycon certainly is listed.

Checked Digikey pricing; 100 piece, cost differential ~ $1.00US, for
6,800uF 50WVDC 85C versus 2,200uF 35WVDC 85C. In production
quantities, might expect $0.20US to $0.30US differential. Given non-
zero costs to make fake shell, solder cap onto leads, close package,
etc., doubt counterfeiter makes more than $0.01US each. Pretty low
margins! Can't imagine anyone doing this in less than ~ 100,000 piece
quantity. If photo isn't a hoax, gotta be a BUNCH of fake caps sold!

W Letendre

 

[Joel Koltner]

Given non-
zero costs to make fake shell, solder cap onto leads, close package,
etc., doubt counterfeiter makes more than $0.01US each.

I suspect that the scenario might have been that they had an order for 50V
6,800uF caps and already had the 2,200uF caps lying around... or could acquire
them for next to nothing (far less than the "new" price). Then they're
probably making better than $0.10/ea, which is pretty respectable.

It is weird though... and I like the one guy's suggestion that you should
check to make sure you aren't just getting Russian dolls!

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

Why bother putting anything in it at all? If it was hollow, it would
at least meet the voltage spec.

Plenty of outgas vent space there...

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

Thanks for posting this link - apparently I had a lot
of innocence to lose...

Not all the claims on that page are legit.

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

I suspect that the scenario might have been that they had an order for 50V
6,800uF caps and already had the 2,200uF caps lying around... or could acquire
them for next to nothing (far less than the "new" price). Then they're
probably making better than $0.10/ea, which is pretty respectable.

It is weird though... and I like the one guy's suggestion that you should
check to make sure you aren't just getting Russian dolls!

Or maybe it is rubycon that had millions of bad caps from the bad cap on
MOBO days that they wanted to recover a bit on, so they made a fake
company shrink on, and used some of their standard cans, and had the caps
marketed by someone they had an agreement with.
All profit 'cause it doesn't even et into the books, and the bad caps
were already written off as losses once.

Triple bad.

 

[JosephKK]

qrk [email protected] posted to sci.electronics.design:

I got some fake Analog Devices parts. It should have been an
instrumentation amp, but got something else inside. All the
stampings on the outside were official AD and AD confirmed the
markings. We had a buyer who liked to buy from scalpers until I did
a review of a purchase trail on my project.

That must have ruffled some feathers.