ESP "Infinite" Wireless Security Alarm

[John]

Just bought one of these alarm systems. I want to use it purely and simply
as a burglar alarm, ie, no GSM, no "Central Station" monitoring and no X10
Home Automation.

The kit came with 3 wireless PIRs and none of them seem to detect movement.
Each PIR has a jumper that can be set to "walk test" mode and there's a red
LED that should come on when movement is detected. About every 4 minutes the
LED flashes twice as the PIR sends an "I'm alive and here" signal back to
the control unit but it just doesn't light up when you move.

The control unit is in the hallway with the zone 1 PIR mounted above it and
the unit reports Zone 1 PIR as signal strength 9, status OK. Zones 2 & 3
PIRs are reported as signal strength 7, status OK.

As I said, none of the PIRs do anything except their 4-minute "check-in"
with the control unit. Seems strange that all 3 should be faulty but that's
what it looks like, unless anyone here can put me right.

Actually, to be more precise, I have the system set to "chime" when a
detector
triggers until I get it all installed properly and while I was typing out
this message the hallway detector was triggered twice. It seems that the
detectors *will* detect movement, but only *once* in the 4-minute period
between "check-in" signals.

Any ideas anyone?

Cheers,

John.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Thats kinda the way most of the wireless pirs work, the walk test led only
works when in walk-test and not during actual operation, this is to save
battery life. Same for the alarm signal they usually will send one signal to
the panel every few minutes, not every time it sees movement....same
thing...save battery life.


| Just bought one of these alarm systems. I want to use it purely and simply
| as a burglar alarm, ie, no GSM, no "Central Station" monitoring and no X10
| Home Automation.
|
| The kit came with 3 wireless PIRs and none of them seem to detect
movement.
| Each PIR has a jumper that can be set to "walk test" mode and there's a
red
| LED that should come on when movement is detected. About every 4 minutes
the
| LED flashes twice as the PIR sends an "I'm alive and here" signal back to
| the control unit but it just doesn't light up when you move.
|
| The control unit is in the hallway with the zone 1 PIR mounted above it
and
| the unit reports Zone 1 PIR as signal strength 9, status OK. Zones 2 & 3
| PIRs are reported as signal strength 7, status OK.
|
| As I said, none of the PIRs do anything except their 4-minute "check-in"
| with the control unit. Seems strange that all 3 should be faulty but
that's
| what it looks like, unless anyone here can put me right.
|
| Actually, to be more precise, I have the system set to "chime" when a
| detector
| triggers until I get it all installed properly and while I was typing out
| this message the hallway detector was triggered twice. It seems that the
| detectors *will* detect movement, but only *once* in the 4-minute period
| between "check-in" signals.
|
| Any ideas anyone?
|
| Cheers,
|
| John.
|
|
|

 

[John]

Thats kinda the way most of the wireless pirs work, the walk test led only
works when in walk-test and not during actual operation, this is to save
battery life. Same for the alarm signal they usually will send one signal
to
the panel every few minutes, not every time it sees movement....same
thing...save battery life.


| Just bought one of these alarm systems. I want to use it purely and
simply
| as a burglar alarm, ie, no GSM, no "Central Station" monitoring and no
X10
| Home Automation.
|
| The kit came with 3 wireless PIRs and none of them seem to detect
movement.
| Each PIR has a jumper that can be set to "walk test" mode and there's a
red
| LED that should come on when movement is detected. About every 4 minutes
the
| LED flashes twice as the PIR sends an "I'm alive and here" signal back
to
| the control unit but it just doesn't light up when you move.
|
| The control unit is in the hallway with the zone 1 PIR mounted above it
and
| the unit reports Zone 1 PIR as signal strength 9, status OK. Zones 2 & 3
| PIRs are reported as signal strength 7, status OK.
|
| As I said, none of the PIRs do anything except their 4-minute "check-in"
| with the control unit. Seems strange that all 3 should be faulty but
that's
| what it looks like, unless anyone here can put me right.
|
| Actually, to be more precise, I have the system set to "chime" when a
| detector
| triggers until I get it all installed properly and while I was typing
out
| this message the hallway detector was triggered twice. It seems that
the
| detectors *will* detect movement, but only *once* in the 4-minute period
| between "check-in" signals.
|
| Any ideas anyone?
|
| Cheers,
|
| John.

I have to admit to being very much a novice and a newbie when it comes to
security alarms but surely Crash, that can't be right, can it? If the
wireless PIR only sends an alarm signal to the control unit every few
minutes and not every time it senses motion, a burglar could be in and out
between signals - or worse, in, out of range of PIR when it decides to send
it's next signal, and out 20 minutes later in another "space" between
signals???

John.

 

[Petem]

that's normal operation of the detector to save battery life..

the detector will report a movement then go to a coma state for around 4
minute then will come back to life and start monitoring for movement,if
there is no movement the detector will be alive until a movement occur,then
it will transmit the alarm and shot down for another 4 minute,that's to
prevent the detector to transmit every time you move inside your house will
the system is disarm...

of course if you have no door contact that mean that there is no protection
after leaving your house up to 4 minute after you left...

 

[Crash Gordon]

Thats the way they work. It will detect the intruder when he firsts enters
the area, then won't send another detection for whatever specified time the
manufacturers design is set for. What's the problem with that? Do you need
to know that he walkd through the living room 56 times? Besides most
alarmcos use swinger shunt even on wired systems so you don't get inundated
by runaway alarm signals (swinger shunt will stop that zone from sending
alarms after a specified number of trips, then wait a specified amt of time
before beginning again).

CS dispatches on the 1st signal...we really don't need 55 more identical
signals.


|
|
| | > Thats kinda the way most of the wireless pirs work, the walk test led
only
| > works when in walk-test and not during actual operation, this is to save
| > battery life. Same for the alarm signal they usually will send one
signal
| > to
| > the panel every few minutes, not every time it sees movement....same
| > thing...save battery life.
| >
| >
| > | > | Just bought one of these alarm systems. I want to use it purely and
| > simply
| > | as a burglar alarm, ie, no GSM, no "Central Station" monitoring and no
| > X10
| > | Home Automation.
| > |
| > | The kit came with 3 wireless PIRs and none of them seem to detect
| > movement.
| > | Each PIR has a jumper that can be set to "walk test" mode and there's
a
| > red
| > | LED that should come on when movement is detected. About every 4
minutes
| > the
| > | LED flashes twice as the PIR sends an "I'm alive and here" signal back
| > to
| > | the control unit but it just doesn't light up when you move.
| > |
| > | The control unit is in the hallway with the zone 1 PIR mounted above
it
| > and
| > | the unit reports Zone 1 PIR as signal strength 9, status OK. Zones 2 &
3
| > | PIRs are reported as signal strength 7, status OK.
| > |
| > | As I said, none of the PIRs do anything except their 4-minute
"check-in"
| > | with the control unit. Seems strange that all 3 should be faulty but
| > that's
| > | what it looks like, unless anyone here can put me right.
| > |
| > | Actually, to be more precise, I have the system set to "chime" when a
| > | detector
| > | triggers until I get it all installed properly and while I was typing
| > out
| > | this message the hallway detector was triggered twice. It seems that
| > the
| > | detectors *will* detect movement, but only *once* in the 4-minute
period
| > | between "check-in" signals.
| > |
| > | Any ideas anyone?
| > |
| > | Cheers,
| > |
| > | John.
|
| I have to admit to being very much a novice and a newbie when it comes to
| security alarms but surely Crash, that can't be right, can it? If the
| wireless PIR only sends an alarm signal to the control unit every few
| minutes and not every time it senses motion, a burglar could be in and out
| between signals - or worse, in, out of range of PIR when it decides to
send
| it's next signal, and out 20 minutes later in another "space" between
| signals???
|
| John.
|
|

 

[Everywhere Man]

I have to admit to being very much a novice and a newbie when it comes to
security alarms <

Then why are you taking chances with your family's safety?
Hire a professional to install a proper system. If you want to play
Handy Dan do it with something other than a life safety device.

 

[Micky Savage]

Powremax + which in my humble opinion is a far better system, does exactly
the same.
When it is armed the sensors don't sleep.
It also cuts out the robbing monitor firms.


Kind Regards.

Micky

Leeds U.K

 

[John]

Then why are you taking chances with your family's safety?
Hire a professional to install a proper system. If you want to play
Handy Dan do it with something other than a life safety device.

Point taken, but it's hardly a life safety device. We already have
hard-wired, mains-operated, battery-backup, interlinked smoke alarms in the
house and have had for a number of years. This is just a burglar alarm that
will activate an external siren if anyone breaks in.

I know that the "Infinite" system is capable of a lot more but here in the
UK and in the area that we live, we won't be bothering with Central Station
monitoring or anything like that. It's purely a deterrent - hopefully any
burglars won't want the hassle of breaking in here with an alarm and move on
to somewhere where there isn't an alarm.

John.