Electricity meter checking, NSW

[David]

<http://www.aemo.com.au/en/Electrici...Files/Other/electricityops/0160-0048 pdf.ashx>


"In a similar manner, if the load is varied on a power system without a
corresponding variation in the generation feeding that power system, the
frequency (speed) will deviate."

Sylvia.

Here is another link to the AEMO Power System Frequency and Time
Deviation Monitoring Report September 2012

http://www.aemo.com.au/Reports-and-...cy/2012/September_2012_Freq_Report_Final.ashx

Clearly shows two examples that loss of generation results in the power
system frequency dropping.

David

 

[Jeßus]

**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Hope you find a viable solution.

 

[Jeßus]

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that

 

[F Murtz]

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.


I wondered if someone was going to comment on that

The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b the
top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or unexpected
heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40 years
as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a 'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous cells,
in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be able
to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that

The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b the
top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or unexpected
heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]

"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who can't
be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared decades
ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words of Douglas
Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a wonder their bums
don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in their own minds at least),
they've taken to adding ludicrous colloquialisms and bastardisations to
their dictionaries.

 

[F Murtz]

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]

"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.

The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the
benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word yelled three
times in their hearing.

 

[Sylvia Else]

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.

The role of a lexicographer is to describe a language as it is used. It
is not their function to seek to tell a population how they should use
their language.

Sylvia.

 

[yaputya]

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40 years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a 'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an
oven, refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]

"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

Resorting to insults just shows your ignorance of the subject. Perhaps you are
confusing the spelling with the pronunciation?
It is a fact that "rooves" is hardly used these days, it is not even mentioned in
most dictionaries - British or American. The current online Oxford British and
World English dictionary gives the plural as 'roofs' in the heading, and remarks
that 'rooves' is not the usual spelling.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/roof?q=roof
"The most usual plural of roof is roofs, although rooves is sometimes used."
The Cambridge British English dictionary does not mention "rooves".
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/spellcheck/british/?q=rooves
"We do not have an entry for rooves. Have a look at how it is spelled. Did you type it correctly?"

More to the point, the British National Corpus returns 653 hits for "roofs" and only 5 for "rooves".
"The British National Corpus (BNC) is a 100 million word collection of samples of written and spoken language from a wide range of
sources, designed to represent a wide cross-section of current British English, both spoken and written."
http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/index.xml

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in
the words of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort
to be "cool" (in their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous colloquialisms and bastardisations to their
dictionaries.

You don't seem to understand how English dictionaries are compiled.
BTW Samuel Johnson described the "rooves" spelling as obsolete in 1755!
http://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofeng02john#page/n495/mode/2up

 

[yaputya]

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]


"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.

The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word
yelled three times in their hearing.

You don't seem to realise what you have posted!The "disp." means DISPUTED.

Your insulting comment about the Macquarie is just silly. The Macquarie contains
FEWER entries than the OED.
See if you can find "rooves" in the Cambridge University Press British English dictionary:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

than

 

[Jeßus]

The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)

<snip>

As well may be the case... but 'roofs' just looks wrong to me

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

The role of a lexicographer is to describe a language as it is used. It is
not their function to seek to tell a population how they should use their
language.

Woe betide us then; within a decade they'll have "SMS speak" entered as
legitimate words, given its propensity of use :-/

 

[F Murtz]

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]


"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.

The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word
yelled three times in their hearing.

You don't seem to realise what you have posted!The "disp." means DISPUTED.

Disputed does not mean incorrect.

Your insulting comment about the Macquarie is just silly. The Macquarie contains
FEWER entries than the OED.

If correct I wager that they have many more "NEW" words.

 

[F Murtz]

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]


"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.

The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word
yelled three times in their hearing.

You don't seem to realise what you have posted!The "disp." means DISPUTED.

Your insulting comment about the Macquarie is just silly. The Macquarie contains
FEWER entries than the OED.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary


See if you can find "rooves" in the Cambridge University Press British English dictionary:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

than

 

[yaputya]

Bob Milutinovic wrote:

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]


"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.



The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word
yelled three times in their hearing.

You don't seem to realise what you have posted!

n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)

The "disp." means DISPUTED.

Disputed does not mean incorrect.

Not correct either, eh? Hardly a ringing endorsement of it!
Words are NEVER removed from the OED so obsolete and disputed forms like "rooves"are there for ever.
As I posted elsewhere, if you look at ACTUAL usage of *British English* in the
British National Corpus, "roofs" has 100 times more entries than "rooves".

If correct I wager that they have many more "NEW" words.

I am correct.
As of 30 November 2005, the Oxford English Dictionary contained approximately 301,100 main entries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary
Macquarie Dictionary Data - The full edition consists of over 140,000 references and over 210,000 definitions while the Concise and
other smaller editions as well as educational dictionaries are also available.
http://www.macquarieonline.com.au/anonymous@919CA23945883/-/p/dict/dataDeals.html

Wanna bet? OK, first you have to define exactly what you mean by "NEW" words.
Words added to the latest edition?
Words added since the first edition?
Be precise.
Then provide some evidence of how many:
1) "NEW" words are in the OED?
2) "NEW" words are in The Macquarie Dictionary?




Can't find it in that British English dictionary, eh?

 

[yaputya]

Bob Milutinovic wrote:

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]


"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.



The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word
yelled three times in their hearing.

You don't seem to realise what you have posted!

n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)

The "disp." means DISPUTED.

Your insulting comment about the Macquarie is just silly. The Macquarie contains
FEWER entries than the OED.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary

Yeah? Something in there you want to quote or what?

 

[yaputya]

Woe betide us then; within a decade they'll have "SMS speak" entered as legitimate words, given its propensity of use :-/

Oxford English Dictionary Adds Selfie, Derp, FOMO And More Words We Use Online
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/28/new-words-dictionary_n_3829770.html

 

[Sylvia Else]

Woe betide us then; within a decade they'll have "SMS speak" entered as
legitimate words, given its propensity of use :-/

Such is the process by which languages evolve. The mechanisms for
evolution seem to include stupidity, ignorance, laziness, emulation of a
desire status (copying the way the yanks speak), etc., ad nauseam.
Indeed, about the only mechanism conspicuous by its absence is any kind
of considered deliberate modification.

Despite all that, languages do not decay into uselessness because a
process of darwinian selection prevents it - any change that tends to
make the language less useful gets dropped exactly because it doesn't
get used.

Of course, little of the change seems to serve any useful purpose, and
people have been frustrated by it for centuries. No doubt they will
continue to be in the future. One thing is for certain, though; it's not
going to stop.

Sylvia.

 

[F Murtz]

Bob Milutinovic wrote:

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]


"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.



The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word
yelled three times in their hearing.

You don't seem to realise what you have posted!
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)
The "disp." means DISPUTED.

Disputed does not mean incorrect.

Not correct either, eh? Hardly a ringing endorsement of it!
Words are NEVER removed from the OED so obsolete and disputed forms like "rooves"are there for ever.
As I posted elsewhere, if you look at ACTUAL usage of *British English* in the
British National Corpus, "roofs" has 100 times more entries than "rooves".

If correct I wager that they have many more "NEW" words.

I am correct.
As of 30 November 2005, the Oxford English Dictionary contained approximately 301,100 main entries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary
Macquarie Dictionary Data - The full edition consists of over 140,000 references and over 210,000 definitions while the Concise and
other smaller editions as well as educational dictionaries are also available.
http://www.macquarieonline.com.au/anonymous@919CA23945883/-/p/dict/dataDeals.html

Wanna bet? OK, first you have to define exactly what you mean by "NEW" words.
Words added to the latest edition?
Words added since the first edition?
Be precise.
Then provide some evidence of how many:
1) "NEW" words are in the OED?
2) "NEW" words are in The Macquarie Dictionary?




Can't find it in that British English dictionary, eh?

Don't need to as the OED is recognised as the benchmark of english, why
would I need other dictionaries?

 

[yaputya]

yaputya wrote:
Bob Milutinovic wrote:

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]


"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.



The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word
yelled three times in their hearing.

You don't seem to realise what you have posted!
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)
The "disp." means DISPUTED.


Disputed does not mean incorrect.

Not correct either, eh? Hardly a ringing endorsement of it!
Words are NEVER removed from the OED so obsolete and disputed forms like "rooves"are there for ever.
As I posted elsewhere, if you look at ACTUAL usage of *British English* in the
British National Corpus, "roofs" has 100 times more entries than "rooves".

Your insulting comment about the Macquarie is just silly. The Macquarie contains
FEWER entries than the OED.

If correct I wager that they have many more "NEW" words.

I am correct.
As of 30 November 2005, the Oxford English Dictionary contained approximately 301,100 main entries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary
Macquarie Dictionary Data - The full edition consists of over 140,000 references and over 210,000 definitions while the Concise
and
other smaller editions as well as educational dictionaries are also available.
http://www.macquarieonline.com.au/anonymous@919CA23945883/-/p/dict/dataDeals.html

Wanna bet? OK, first you have to define exactly what you mean by "NEW" words.
Words added to the latest edition?
Words added since the first edition?
Be precise.
Then provide some evidence of how many:
1) "NEW" words are in the OED?
2) "NEW" words are in The Macquarie Dictionary?

Have you worked out what you meant by "NEW" words yet?

Don't need to as the OED is recognised as the benchmark of english, why would I need other dictionaries?

The point is, you were putting shit on the Macquarie (which IS the benchmark of
Australian English, by the way) because it didn't have "rooves". What you fail to
realise is that the OED NEVER deletes words, so they put in notations like "disputed"
and "obsolete" in entries for outdated words like "rooves". Most other dictionaries
simply delete such oddities after their usage falls to almost nothing.

 

[F Murtz]

yaputya wrote:
Bob Milutinovic wrote:

Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 06:04:06 +1000, "Bob Milutinovic"

On 2/10/2013 6:58 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:05:57 +1000, Trevor Wilson

I recieved a letter yesterday, telling me that Ausgrid wish to
perform
maintenance on my meter. Smells like a con to me. In almost 40
years as
an electricity consumer, I've never heard of a meter requiring
maintenance. I suspect they simply wish to fit my home with a
'smart
meter'. I don't want a smart meter.

Anyone else recieved this bullshit?

Things are not going to improve over time, why not go solar?


**Too many trees sheilding my roofs. I'm looking at amorphous
cells, in
series/parallel that may mitigate the worst of the problems.

Round-up... Copper nails... ;-)

Seriously though, depending on the size of your yard, you might be
able to
mount the cells on ancillary buildings,

That's what I did, as I didn't want panels or invertors on the house
itself. I split the panels between two shed rooves, it did mean a
second invertor and power board though.

BTW, the plural is "rooves" - don't let the Septification of the
English
language get a hold in Australia.

I wondered if someone was going to comment on that



The oxford english dictionary allows both

oxford dictionary.
roof // n. & v.
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)


1 a the upper covering of a building, usu. supported by its walls. b
the top of a covered vehicle. c the top inner surface of an oven,
refrigerator, etc.
2 the overhead rock in a cave or mine etc.
3 poet. the branches or the sky etc. overhead.
4 (of prices etc.) the upper limit or ceiling.
v.tr.
1 (often foll. by in, over) cover with or as with a roof.
2 be the roof of.
go through the roof colloq. (of prices etc.) reach extreme or
unexpected heights.
hit (or go through or raise) the roof colloq. become very angry.
a roof over one's head somewhere to live.
under one roof in the same building.
under a person's roof in a person's house (esp. with reference to
hospitality).
roofed adj. (also in comb.).
roofless adj.
[Old English hrof]


"Rooves" is definitely an outdated spelling from the 19th century.
The 1982 Australian Maquarie dictionary only has "roofs".

Pandering to the lowest common denominator, no less - i.e., those who
can't be imbued with a clue even with a four-by-two.

The maintainers of these dictionaries are the same ones who declared
decades ago that the letter "H" was a vowel. The folk who, in the words
of Douglas Adams's character Zaphod Beeblebrox, "are so unhip it's a
wonder their bums don't fall off." So in an effort to be "cool" (in
their own minds at least), they've taken to adding ludicrous
colloquialisms and bastardisations to their dictionaries.



The dictionary I quoted (old copy)OED is usually recognised as the benchmark, Websters is American and macquarie has any word
yelled three times in their hearing.

You don't seem to realise what you have posted!
n. (pl. roofs or disp. rooves //)
The "disp." means DISPUTED.


Disputed does not mean incorrect.

Not correct either, eh? Hardly a ringing endorsement of it!
Words are NEVER removed from the OED so obsolete and disputed forms like "rooves"are there for ever.
As I posted elsewhere, if you look at ACTUAL usage of *British English* in the
British National Corpus, "roofs" has 100 times more entries than "rooves".


Your insulting comment about the Macquarie is just silly. The Macquarie contains
FEWER entries than the OED.

If correct I wager that they have many more "NEW" words.

I am correct.
As of 30 November 2005, the Oxford English Dictionary contained approximately 301,100 main entries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary
Macquarie Dictionary Data - The full edition consists of over 140,000 references and over 210,000 definitions while the Concise
and
other smaller editions as well as educational dictionaries are also available.
http://www.macquarieonline.com.au/anonymous@919CA23945883/-/p/dict/dataDeals.html

Wanna bet? OK, first you have to define exactly what you mean by "NEW" words.
Words added to the latest edition?
Words added since the first edition?
Be precise.
Then provide some evidence of how many:
1) "NEW" words are in the OED?
2) "NEW" words are in The Macquarie Dictionary?

Have you worked out what you meant by "NEW" words yet?

Don't need to as the OED is recognised as the benchmark of english, why would I need other dictionaries?

The point is, you were putting shit on the Macquarie (which IS the benchmark of
Australian English, by the way) because it didn't have "rooves". What you fail to
realise is that the OED NEVER deletes words, so they put in notations like "disputed"
and "obsolete" in entries for outdated words like "rooves". Most other dictionaries
simply delete such oddities after their usage falls to almost nothing.

A poster stated that it was rooves, I posted the OED version showing
that it prefered roofs but could be rooves.

When maquarie dict. first started it was known for inserting almost any
fad new word before you could sneeze.
the trouble with doing this prematurely is that it legitimises the new
word therefore accelerating its introduction when it may not have taken
hold otherwise.