difference in quality of equipment: ADT, Brinks, Slomins, etc?

[Crash Gordon]

otay otay...i apologize for posting an almost on-topic question...sheesh
youse guise.


|
| Frank Olson wrote:
| > Crash Gordon wrote:
| > > ot: can compass be set up to do an unattended load to a panel? - like
can i
| > > program compass with my full program, go to install and have a vista
call
| > > into my programming computer and have it upload the program to the
vista
| > > without anyone being at the office?
| > >
| >
| >
| > Nope. <
|
| Did you notice poor Crash called his question an off-topic post?
| The only fucking thing in this thread alarm-related and he calls it
| off-topic.
| He's way too polite, Franky. I need to tutor him
|
|

 

[Crash Gordon]

not me. i activated my age retention permit when i was 40, so im still good
for a while yet.


| | > I'll probably be in an attic again this weekend. Attic work is getting
| old.
|
| Or, ....we are.
| js
|
|
|

 

[Mr.Double-sided tape]

It was really fucking rude of you to do that. You're starting to get
like Campbell now.
BTW, RHC hasn't posted here since discussing tits in Florida. Me thinks
Bob is spending that vacation, and his life savings, at the Jugs O'
Plenty Lounge.

 

[Mark Leuck]

What's a basement?
js

I just read stories about em, Tom tells me they are great for Mazzola
parties

 

[Mark Leuck]

ot: can compass be set up to do an unattended load to a panel? - like can i
program compass with my full program, go to install and have a vista call
into my programming computer and have it upload the program to the vista
without anyone being at the office?

Yup, use the unattended downloader and set it up to download the panel as it
calls in

 

[Mr.Double-sided tape]

we dress the gerbils up like smurfs with cowboy hats and
then................ oh shit, sorry. I thought this was
alt.crisco.underground.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Motorcycle Irene



| It was really fucking rude of you to do that. You're starting to get
| like Campbell now.
| BTW, RHC hasn't posted here since discussing tits in Florida. Me thinks
| Bob is spending that vacation, and his life savings, at the Jugs O'
| Plenty Lounge.
|
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > otay otay...i apologize for posting an almost on-topic question...sheesh
| > youse guise.
| >
| >
| > | > |
| > | Frank Olson wrote:
| > | > Crash Gordon wrote:
| > | > > ot: can compass be set up to do an unattended load to a panel? -
like
| > can i
| > | > > program compass with my full program, go to install and have a
vista
| > call
| > | > > into my programming computer and have it upload the program to the
| > vista
| > | > > without anyone being at the office?
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Nope. <
| > |
| > | Did you notice poor Crash called his question an off-topic post?
| > | The only fucking thing in this thread alarm-related and he calls it
| > | off-topic.
| > | He's way too polite, Franky. I need to tutor him
| > |
| > |
|
|

 

[Crash Gordon]

so it will trap the panel eh...sheesh what a freeking timesaver. gonna try
this on my next ademco wireless.


|
| | > ot: can compass be set up to do an unattended load to a panel? - like
can
| i
| > program compass with my full program, go to install and have a vista
call
| > into my programming computer and have it upload the program to the vista
| > without anyone being at the office?
|
| Yup, use the unattended downloader and set it up to download the panel as
it
| calls in
|
|
|

 

[Mark Leuck]

so it will trap the panel eh...sheesh what a freeking timesaver. gonna try
this on my next ademco wireless.

Its one of the best features of Compass

 

[Crash Gordon]

alt.poly-unsaturated-ghee.erotic.binaries





| we dress the gerbils up like smurfs with cowboy hats and
| then................ oh shit, sorry. I thought this was
| alt.crisco.underground.
|
|
| Mark Leuck wrote:
| > | > > | > > > Move north and deal with basements
| > >
| > > What's a basement?
| > > js
| >
| > I just read stories about em, Tom tells me they are great for Mazzola
| > parties
|
|

 

[mikey]

I'm surprised you guys use it. I wouldn't trust an unattended connection to
an alarm panel. Dumb I suppose but I've had things go awry with a dnload
(presumably why big boys don't connect unless tech on site) What if, could
the dnload tie up the panel (ie: tel line) for hours in a malfunction?
Seizing the clients phone line carries some responsibility, no?

Its one of the best features of Compass

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[Mark Leuck]

I'm surprised you guys use it. I wouldn't trust an unattended connection to
an alarm panel. Dumb I suppose but I've had things go awry with a dnload
(presumably why big boys don't connect unless tech on site) What if, could
the dnload tie up the panel (ie: tel line) for hours in a malfunction?
Seizing the clients phone line carries some responsibility, no?

I've done it hundreds of times for the last 5 years now

 

[Crash Gordon]

If your standing at the premise...what would the liability be?...just unplug
the rj.

And conversely, I program hundreds of panels and never ever have had a
problem...oh sure I've inadvertantly wiped out a panel here or there, but
have been able to reprogram it in minutes. Never had a panel seize and not
release a phone line....then again I don't use DSC or Nappy stuff ;-)

The big boys don't do it because...well you figure that one out...I can
think of at least 2 reasons.


| I'm surprised you guys use it. I wouldn't trust an unattended connection
to
| an alarm panel. Dumb I suppose but I've had things go awry with a dnload
| (presumably why big boys don't connect unless tech on site) What if, could
| the dnload tie up the panel (ie: tel line) for hours in a malfunction?
| Seizing the clients phone line carries some responsibility, no?
|
| | >
| > | > > so it will trap the panel eh...sheesh what a freeking timesaver. gonna
| try
| > > this on my next ademco wireless.
| >
| > Its one of the best features of Compass
| >
| >
|
|
| *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
| *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
http://www.SecureIX.com ***

 

[mikey]

if you're standing at the premises, it's not an unattended download

If your standing at the premise...what would the liability be?...just unplug
the rj.

And conversely, I program hundreds of panels and never ever have had a
problem...oh sure I've inadvertantly wiped out a panel here or there, but
have been able to reprogram it in minutes. Never had a panel seize and not
release a phone line....then again I don't use DSC or Nappy stuff ;-)

The big boys don't do it because...well you figure that one out...I can
think of at least 2 reasons.


| I'm surprised you guys use it. I wouldn't trust an unattended connection
to
| an alarm panel. Dumb I suppose but I've had things go awry with a dnload
| (presumably why big boys don't connect unless tech on site) What if, could
| the dnload tie up the panel (ie: tel line) for hours in a malfunction?
| Seizing the clients phone line carries some responsibility, no?
|
| | >
| > | > > so it will trap the panel eh...sheesh what a freeking timesaver. gonna
| try
| > > this on my next ademco wireless.
| >
| > Its one of the best features of Compass
| >
| >
|
|
| *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
| *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
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[mikey]

This happens when you are not there, Mark? I meant nobody keeping an eye on
the connection not somebody just watching it happen

I've done it hundreds of times for the last 5 years now

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[Mark Leuck]

This happens when you are not there, Mark? I meant nobody keeping an eye on
the connection not somebody just watching it happen

I'm never "there", I have 1 database being fed from 8 download servers and
20 workstations 4 floors up. The database has over 200,000 accounts on it.

Trust me Mikey it just works.

 

[Mark Leuck]

if you're standing at the premises, it's not an unattended download

It is from the downloader side, someone has to initiate the download. Also
do it with DS panels that auto update when they connect to the downloader
weekly.

 

[Crash Gordon]

There's not one at my office is what i mean.

But I've also done scheduled completely unattended downloads too, never had
a problem.



| if you're standing at the premises, it's not an unattended download
|
| | > If your standing at the premise...what would the liability be?...just
| unplug
| > the rj.
| >
| > And conversely, I program hundreds of panels and never ever have had a
| > problem...oh sure I've inadvertantly wiped out a panel here or there,
but
| > have been able to reprogram it in minutes. Never had a panel seize and
not
| > release a phone line....then again I don't use DSC or Nappy stuff ;-)
| >
| > The big boys don't do it because...well you figure that one out...I can
| > think of at least 2 reasons.
| >
| >
| > | > | I'm surprised you guys use it. I wouldn't trust an unattended
connection
| > to
| > | an alarm panel. Dumb I suppose but I've had things go awry with a
dnload
| > | (presumably why big boys don't connect unless tech on site) What if,
| could
| > | the dnload tie up the panel (ie: tel line) for hours in a malfunction?
| > | Seizing the clients phone line carries some responsibility, no?
| > |
| > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > > so it will trap the panel eh...sheesh what a freeking timesaver.
| gonna
| > | try
| > | > > this on my next ademco wireless.
| > | >
| > | > Its one of the best features of Compass
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > | *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
| > | *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
| > http://www.SecureIX.com ***
| >
| >
|
|
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[[email protected]]

Wow, 38 replies and only 1 can be described as even remotely related to
the original post.

Ok, clearly you guys are irritated by non-industry people who ask about
alarms. If the topic has been discussed before can you at least post
links to the previous discussion. I did search Google Groups before
posting and didn't successfully find answers. (and by discussed I mean,
really discussed, not 38 replies spiraling into one line cracks and
inside jokes).

 

[Crash Gordon]

Search *this* newsgroup, it was discussed in depth within the last coupla
weeks.

Brinks - proprietary equipment, if you're not happy with them IF you can get
out of the contract you WILL be buying a new control panel (main brain) and
new keypads from whatever company you decide to go with after them.

ADT - mostly private labeled Ademco products, usually takeover-able if you
are able to get out of contract. Meaning the equipment can be reused
(usually)

Slomin - dunno.

Remember, it's not so much the equipment but the relationship. If you're
happy with the idea of being 1 of 3 million customers then go with one of
the big guys. If you think you would get better service from a smaller
locally owned and operated company...hmmm...maybe you should consider one in
your area...ask your friends//neighbors//businesses for recommendations.

hth


| Wow, 38 replies and only 1 can be described as even remotely related to
| the original post.
|
| Ok, clearly you guys are irritated by non-industry people who ask about
| alarms. If the topic has been discussed before can you at least post
| links to the previous discussion. I did search Google Groups before
| posting and didn't successfully find answers. (and by discussed I mean,
| really discussed, not 38 replies spiraling into one line cracks and
| inside jokes).
|