Design of exploding control panels

[UltimatePatriot]

When I was in the USAF, during the "Vietnam Advisory Campaign" (don't
ya just love those military euphemisms?),

The "advisory campaign" was late 50s, early 60s. You ain't that old.
What you were around for was the "The Vietnam War", which is what it
became long before you lined up and signed up.

I know a Navy guy that got caught with dope back before zero tolerance
was adopted. They would let him work on the nuke missiles, but he was no
longer cleared for the nuke power stuff. Pretty wild.

 

[Son of a Sea Cook]

Still on the plus side new scifi is back on mainstream TV with a new
series of Dr Who with high production standards and doesn't feature
monsters that look like a man in bubblewrap with green spray paint.

"Lost In Space" was far worse in the costume respect.

Star Trek was serious morality play stuff and they were all doing their
best to deliver good performances. So was Lost In Space, but there were
budget differences, and writer differences.

Lost In Space had more 'cool' monsters, and a lot of circus like camp.

 

[Rich Grise]

v = w^3c - you do the arithmetic. ;-)

Got it! ;-)
(no problem on the arithmetic; all I asked for was the conversion
factor anyway. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

The "advisory campaign" was late 50s, early 60s. You ain't that old.
What you were around for was the "The Vietnam War", which is what it
became long before you lined up and signed up.

Sorry, I'm only reporting what I saw on my own military records.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[JW]

Transporters don't do a good job on red.

Hmmm... I don't know about that. Scotty's and Uhuru's uniform was red.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kL...Ni8/ljmmrfOhvfU/s1600-h/Star_Trek_Cast_TV.jpg
Though I don't remember whether they ever used the transporter. Maybe they
knew better!

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

They don't trust their own work?

More complex than that.
What we see is the idealized version of transporter technology.

In real Star Trek Life a person stands on the pad and is scanned.
An identical replica is created at the beam-to point, and upon
confirmation of safe arrival the originals are taken off the pad and
shot before being dumped into the recycle plants. Of course, only the
engineers know of this because the people who beamed down have no memory
of what happened to their originals.

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

The people on scifi shows are actors.

As actors they are told to JUMP backwards so the camera will catch the
emotion of the moment.

This is a problem with scifi watchers, not scifi makers.

I expect scifi watchers would not like the real sort of blowup that
might happen where there's not a lot of jumping, but a great deal of
faces on fire screaming.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

Sigh. Of course they did. Do you think the entire crew boarded the
ship via a shuttlecraft? Doctor McCoy was always complaining about the
transporter.

"Scattering a man's atoms all over the universe is no way to travel"

Well, at least you don't get groped and have to take off your shoes.

 

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kinda dumb to route all that energy through a control panel.
Obviously,Enterprise was not designed with battle damage repairs in mind.

On the contrary, it was designed exceedingly well. All the repairs were done
just in the nick of time. Nothing wasted. ;-)

 

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Or they walked on, from the space dock.

"Scattering a man's atoms all over the universe is no way to travel"

Well, at least you don't get groped and have to take off your shoes.

What do you think the computers are doing while the transporter has all your
atoms scattered about?

 

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Sigh. Of course they did. Do you think the entire crew boarded the
ship via a shuttlecraft? Doctor McCoy was always complaining about the
transporter. The 'Red shirts' were assigned to engineering.

Scotty often wore the "officer" (AKA "series regular") gold.

 

[Ralph Barone]

Or they walked on, from the space dock.


What do you think the computers are doing while the transporter has all your
atoms scattered about?

Hopefully not executing data due to a buffer overflow

 

[TralfamadoranJetPilot]

Hopefully not executing data due to a buffer overflow

I'd rather be out on a space platform with five lovely ladies, drinking
champagne like in "Our Man Flynt". I guess getting back down is a
different 'trek'.

Or on a Planet called Tralfamador.

 

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Hopefully not executing data due to a buffer overflow

You think Starfleet uses Windows?

 

[Rich Grise]

it seems there's no reason why a transporter couldn't make COPIES of
people,and then you could have just a few trained people,clone them with
the transporter,and have a full,trained crew. Or even replace people after
they got killed in battle,if you can "store" them in a buffer.

it might get confusing with their names,though,with a dozen Scottys in
engineering,and several Spocks all over the ship.

I once read a SF story on exactly this theme - the "transporter" didn't
actually transport the person's atoms - a scanner mapped the position and
movement of each and every atom in the "source passenger's" body [suspension
of disbelief - position _and_ motion? Heisenberg be damned!], and at the
destination end, they just had bins of various atoms and molecules where
they reassembled the passenger at the destination end. The dilemma was,
what do you then do with the "source passenger?" Their solution was to
drug the passenger unconscious, then at the destination end, revive them
and check them out, to make sure it worked, then phone the guy at the
source end, say, "OK," and they'd quietly dump the still unconscious
"source passenger" into the disintegrator.

There was some controversy (in the story) about when some hot babe
got transported, the "source passenger" would get all kind of groped
and abused before they threw her away.

This dirty little secret got out, and much drama ensued. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Les Cargill]

it seems there's no reason why a transporter couldn't make COPIES of
people,and then you could have just a few trained people,clone them with
the transporter,and have a full,trained crew. Or even replace people after
they got killed in battle,if you can "store" them in a buffer.

it might get confusing with their names,though,with a dozen Scottys in
engineering,and several Spocks all over the ship.

I once read a SF story on exactly this theme - the "transporter" didn't
actually transport the person's atoms - a scanner mapped the position and
movement of each and every atom in the "source passenger's" body [suspension
of disbelief - position _and_ motion? Heisenberg be damned!],

heh. From one of the documentaries on Trek, an advisor was
asked "How does the Heisenberg Compensator work?" and he
answered "very well, thank you!" and laughed.

if it weren't for skyhooks, they have no hooks at all I
still like Trek, tho.

and at the
destination end, they just had bins of various atoms and molecules where
they reassembled the passenger at the destination end. The dilemma was,
what do you then do with the "source passenger?" Their solution was to
drug the passenger unconscious, then at the destination end, revive them
and check them out, to make sure it worked, then phone the guy at the
source end, say, "OK," and they'd quietly dump the still unconscious
"source passenger" into the disintegrator.

Yawp. And please note that unless the "soul" is an emergent phenomena
of the arrangement of atoms ( not the usual way it's thought about ),
then the copy would be .... a zombie.

So I would guess no Catholics in the transporter... but maybe
some Vudu priests.... I'd like to see the Encyclical on
*THAT*

There was some controversy (in the story) about when some hot babe
got transported, the "source passenger" would get all kind of groped
and abused before they threw her away.

Sci fi writers...

This dirty little secret got out, and much drama ensued. ;-)

That's vastly awesome. Remember who it was?

 

[Rich Grise]

That's vastly awesome. Remember who it was?

No, unfortunately - I don't even rememember the name of the story
or where I read it - I'm pretty sure it was in one of the pulps,
but that's about it. )-;

Sorry.
Rich