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[Joerg]

Phil Hobbs wrote:
Charlie E. wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
This year stinks in some ways, but it's an amazing time to be
buying test equipment.

True. Same for industrial real estate. Except that out here one
never knows whether and when the left blows a hole into the
business property tax cap (Prop 13) which can cause an exodus.
Plus a lot of places have been vacant for over a year so they are
all negative cash flow.

I'm looking around for some lab/office space myself, just on spec.
There's lots around. Still, the taxes are quite uncertain round
here too...leases appear always to include only the base year's
taxes. The competing possibilities are to move house or add
on...ick.

But you've got a fairly big house. If the kids move out to wherever
their universities are you'd have plenty of room. Also, check the
rules about granny flats. In many jurisdictions it's pretty easy to
put one up if not larger than 1200sqft or so. You'd have to inquire
first.
It's about 2200 square feet, with 5 larger-than-life personalities
in residence at the moment. Our #1 daughter Bronwen graduated a
couple of years ago, but is off work with a badly herniated disc,
and she's stuck here because there's a fight with the Workers Comp
folks that means that her health insurance won't pay for surgery
until the comp claim is settled...#2 daughter Magdalen is taking a
year off university, working part time and doing some music
classes. She has a wonderful opera voice and likes singing a lot,
which makes the house sound better but seem smaller. (She sounds a
great deal like Audra Macdonald, for fans of that sort of thing.)
#1 son Simon is a senior in high school, is nearly 6 feet 6, and
would like to have someplace to bring his friends and to watch
football. So Maureen and I are hip deep in offspring at
present--which is really rather pleasant, but definitely crowded.

Thus my taking up space in the basement and needing lots of quiet
doesn't fit too well with the rhythm of the place, unfortunately.

That is one full house. I guess your only options would be a granny
flat or another building close by. The beauty of being self-employed
is not being away from home so much but with an office building
somewhere in town that advantage would go away.

[...]
Phil,
Don't know where you are located, or what lot size you have. A few
years ago, while looking into buying manufactured housing, I found
several different little 'houses' that would make good offices. One
such is:

http://www.fleetwoodhomes.com/fpf/models.asp

There were better ones available, but I can't find them now. One had a
large living room, kitchenette, and small 'bedroom' area that would
have made a great office space.

Charlie


Thanks. I can't get to that web site because they seem to use a lot of
VBScript, which Firefox doesn't support. I'll certainly think about it,
though--I could do a lot with even 500 square feet. Of course the
zoning round here is pretty ferocious....

If you have no regular customer traffic and just work from home, what
can they do? If they prohibited work from home that's called
discrimination and a class would rather quickly be formed
They would try, trust me. ...

They might try, once

You don't know NewYawk politicians and other like busy bodies.

Just the AGs there are enough reason for me not to live there. Killing
off Usenet. Preaching ethics or whatever and then get caught in a
prostitution scandal, and so forth. That's not the kind of "values" I'd
like to stand for.

Freelance electronics types aren't a protected class; discrimination
is perfectly legal. ;-)/2

That's what a local board here thought as well. Until they opened the
newspaper a week later ...

Boy did they become friendly. Media in our country are pretty powerful
compared to other places of the world.

Seriously, just because one person does something illegal doesn't give
license to another. No award at all.

Working from home ain't illegal. Running a biz with lots of client
traffic might be, in some places (they've eased the rules here and allow
up to one employee in a few areas now).

 

[Charlie E.]

Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
This year stinks in some ways, but it's an amazing time to be
buying test equipment.

True. Same for industrial real estate. Except that out here one
never knows whether and when the left blows a hole into the
business property tax cap (Prop 13) which can cause an exodus.
Plus a lot of places have been vacant for over a year so they are
all negative cash flow.

I'm looking around for some lab/office space myself, just on spec.
There's lots around. Still, the taxes are quite uncertain round
here too...leases appear always to include only the base year's
taxes. The competing possibilities are to move house or add
on...ick.

But you've got a fairly big house. If the kids move out to wherever
their universities are you'd have plenty of room. Also, check the
rules about granny flats. In many jurisdictions it's pretty easy to
put one up if not larger than 1200sqft or so. You'd have to inquire
first.
It's about 2200 square feet, with 5 larger-than-life personalities
in residence at the moment. Our #1 daughter Bronwen graduated a
couple of years ago, but is off work with a badly herniated disc,
and she's stuck here because there's a fight with the Workers Comp
folks that means that her health insurance won't pay for surgery
until the comp claim is settled...#2 daughter Magdalen is taking a
year off university, working part time and doing some music
classes. She has a wonderful opera voice and likes singing a lot,
which makes the house sound better but seem smaller. (She sounds a
great deal like Audra Macdonald, for fans of that sort of thing.)
#1 son Simon is a senior in high school, is nearly 6 feet 6, and
would like to have someplace to bring his friends and to watch
football. So Maureen and I are hip deep in offspring at
present--which is really rather pleasant, but definitely crowded.

Thus my taking up space in the basement and needing lots of quiet
doesn't fit too well with the rhythm of the place, unfortunately.


That is one full house. I guess your only options would be a granny
flat or another building close by. The beauty of being self-employed
is not being away from home so much but with an office building
somewhere in town that advantage would go away.

[...]

Phil,
Don't know where you are located, or what lot size you have. A few
years ago, while looking into buying manufactured housing, I found
several different little 'houses' that would make good offices. One
such is:

http://www.fleetwoodhomes.com/fpf/models.asp

There were better ones available, but I can't find them now. One had a
large living room, kitchenette, and small 'bedroom' area that would
have made a great office space.

Charlie

Thanks. I can't get to that web site because they seem to use a lot of
VBScript, which Firefox doesn't support. I'll certainly think about it,
though--I could do a lot with even 500 square feet. Of course the
zoning round here is pretty ferocious....

If you have no regular customer traffic and just work from home, what
can they do? If they prohibited work from home that's called
discrimination and a class would rather quickly be formed

Here in my town, they have special business license paperwork for home
based businesses. They hit you with an extra $200 charge the first
year, but after that, it is just the standard business license fee.

Charlie

 

[Glen Walpert]

Joerg wrote:

I meant building something in the back yard. Round here you get a
ticket for having a small sailboat in your back yard.

Briarcliff Manor NY: All the fun of a HOA with police enforcement to boot.

My wife grew up in Briarcliff Manor, back when you could easily catch
3 foot Muskie in the St. Lawrence River (before construction of the
seaway). We drove through a few years ago and found her old house. It
still seems to be a fairly nice neighborhood if you want or need to be
near NYC, but we much prefer Pennsylvania where we are 1 hour from
Philadelphia, 2 hours from NYC and pay ~$3000/year RE tax on a 5
bedroom house with 2000 sq.ft. barn/workshop on 2 acres. Very
business friendly, no problem with home business run from your house
or a second building on the same property, with or without reasonable
customer traffic. They understand where their taxes come from and do
nothing to discourage small businesses (Montgomery County, Upper
Providence Township).

Glen

 

[Joerg]

My wife grew up in Briarcliff Manor, back when you could easily catch
3 foot Muskie in the St. Lawrence River (before construction of the
seaway). We drove through a few years ago and found her old house. It
still seems to be a fairly nice neighborhood if you want or need to be
near NYC, but we much prefer Pennsylvania where we are 1 hour from
Philadelphia, 2 hours from NYC and pay ~$3000/year RE tax on a 5
bedroom house with 2000 sq.ft. barn/workshop on 2 acres. Very
business friendly, no problem with home business run from your house
or a second building on the same property, with or without reasonable
customer traffic. They understand where their taxes come from and do
nothing to discourage small businesses (Montgomery County, Upper
Providence Township).

Similar here. Your key word was "they understand where their taxes come
from". And also, that they can quickly go away if they want to play
hardball.

I hadn't thought that was possible anymore back east ;-)

 

[John Larkin]

Charlie E. wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
This year stinks in some ways, but it's an amazing time to be
buying test equipment.

True. Same for industrial real estate. Except that out here one
never knows whether and when the left blows a hole into the
business property tax cap (Prop 13) which can cause an exodus.
Plus a lot of places have been vacant for over a year so they
are all negative cash flow.

I'm looking around for some lab/office space myself, just on
spec. There's lots around. Still, the taxes are quite uncertain
round here too...leases appear always to include only the base
year's taxes. The competing possibilities are to move house or
add on...ick.

But you've got a fairly big house. If the kids move out to
wherever their universities are you'd have plenty of room. Also,
check the rules about granny flats. In many jurisdictions it's
pretty easy to put one up if not larger than 1200sqft or so. You'd
have to inquire first.
It's about 2200 square feet, with 5 larger-than-life personalities
in residence at the moment. Our #1 daughter Bronwen graduated a
couple of years ago, but is off work with a badly herniated disc,
and she's stuck here because there's a fight with the Workers Comp
folks that means that her health insurance won't pay for surgery
until the comp claim is settled...#2 daughter Magdalen is taking a
year off university, working part time and doing some music
classes. She has a wonderful opera voice and likes singing a lot,
which makes the house sound better but seem smaller. (She sounds a
great deal like Audra Macdonald, for fans of that sort of thing.)
#1 son Simon is a senior in high school, is nearly 6 feet 6, and
would like to have someplace to bring his friends and to watch
football. So Maureen and I are hip deep in offspring at
present--which is really rather pleasant, but definitely crowded.

Thus my taking up space in the basement and needing lots of quiet
doesn't fit too well with the rhythm of the place, unfortunately.


That is one full house. I guess your only options would be a granny
flat or another building close by. The beauty of being self-employed
is not being away from home so much but with an office building
somewhere in town that advantage would go away.

[...]

Phil,
Don't know where you are located, or what lot size you have. A few
years ago, while looking into buying manufactured housing, I found
several different little 'houses' that would make good offices. One
such is:

http://www.fleetwoodhomes.com/fpf/models.asp

There were better ones available, but I can't find them now. One had a
large living room, kitchenette, and small 'bedroom' area that would
have made a great office space.

Charlie


Thanks. I can't get to that web site because they seem to use a lot
of VBScript, which Firefox doesn't support. I'll certainly think
about it, though--I could do a lot with even 500 square feet. Of
course the zoning round here is pretty ferocious....

If you have no regular customer traffic and just work from home, what
can they do? If they prohibited work from home that's called
discrimination and a class would rather quickly be formed

I meant building something in the back yard. Round here you get a
ticket for having a small sailboat in your back yard.

Briarcliff Manor NY: All the fun of a HOA with police enforcement to boot.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I want to build a barn next to the cabin in Truckee, a small
electronics lab and garage and toy storage. If I buy the lot next
door, I can only build a house on it. But if I then go down to city
hall and legally consolidate into one lot, I *can't* build another
"residence" (namely, no kitchen) but I can build a barn. Of course,
we'd have to pay two HOA fees forever, either way.

The fire danger is serious up there, so the organization concentrates
on that and has little energy to worry about much else.

John

 

[Charlie E.]

I want to build a barn next to the cabin in Truckee, a small
electronics lab and garage and toy storage. If I buy the lot next
door, I can only build a house on it. But if I then go down to city
hall and legally consolidate into one lot, I *can't* build another
"residence" (namely, no kitchen) but I can build a barn. Of course,
we'd have to pay two HOA fees forever, either way.

The fire danger is serious up there, so the organization concentrates
on that and has little energy to worry about much else.

John

A friend of mine did that in Crestline years ago. He bought the lot
next door (mainly because it had a rehabable well on it!) and then
built a 'garage' so that he had a road level accessible parking place.
Of course, to get it 'road level' he had to raise the entire structure
up four feet, so he had the structural guy design the foundations down
the full ten feet. He also incorporated an area of the 'garage floor'
where it would be easy to put in a stairwell.

When he was finished, it would only take a few hours time with a
mini-cat and pour a slab in the existing foundation to make it a
complete house with over 2000 sq. ft. of living space!

Unfortunately, he was diagnosed with stage 4 prostrate, so he never
made the conversion... :-(

Charlie

 

[Joerg]

[...]

I meant building something in the back yard. Round here you get a
ticket for having a small sailboat in your back yard.

Briarcliff Manor NY: All the fun of a HOA with police enforcement to boot.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I want to build a barn next to the cabin in Truckee, a small
electronics lab and garage and toy storage. If I buy the lot next
door, I can only build a house on it. But if I then go down to city
hall and legally consolidate into one lot, I *can't* build another
"residence" (namely, no kitchen) but I can build a barn. Of course,
we'd have to pay two HOA fees forever, either way.

The fire danger is serious up there, so the organization concentrates
on that and has little energy to worry about much else.

Why not a house? After all, a decent lab must have a full size fridge
full of beer (but only the good stuff). Plus a freezer section with
pizzas in case of a late night project. Plus at least a four-burner
stove to cook a decent meal. And a coffee maker. And an espresso pot.
And ...

Come to think of it, a house and the ideal lab aren't all that different.

 

[krw]

krw wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Charlie E. wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
This year stinks in some ways, but it's an amazing time to be
buying test equipment.

True. Same for industrial real estate. Except that out here one
never knows whether and when the left blows a hole into the
business property tax cap (Prop 13) which can cause an exodus.
Plus a lot of places have been vacant for over a year so they are
all negative cash flow.

I'm looking around for some lab/office space myself, just on spec.
There's lots around. Still, the taxes are quite uncertain round
here too...leases appear always to include only the base year's
taxes. The competing possibilities are to move house or add
on...ick.

But you've got a fairly big house. If the kids move out to wherever
their universities are you'd have plenty of room. Also, check the
rules about granny flats. In many jurisdictions it's pretty easy to
put one up if not larger than 1200sqft or so. You'd have to inquire
first.
It's about 2200 square feet, with 5 larger-than-life personalities
in residence at the moment. Our #1 daughter Bronwen graduated a
couple of years ago, but is off work with a badly herniated disc,
and she's stuck here because there's a fight with the Workers Comp
folks that means that her health insurance won't pay for surgery
until the comp claim is settled...#2 daughter Magdalen is taking a
year off university, working part time and doing some music
classes. She has a wonderful opera voice and likes singing a lot,
which makes the house sound better but seem smaller. (She sounds a
great deal like Audra Macdonald, for fans of that sort of thing.)
#1 son Simon is a senior in high school, is nearly 6 feet 6, and
would like to have someplace to bring his friends and to watch
football. So Maureen and I are hip deep in offspring at
present--which is really rather pleasant, but definitely crowded.

Thus my taking up space in the basement and needing lots of quiet
doesn't fit too well with the rhythm of the place, unfortunately.

That is one full house. I guess your only options would be a granny
flat or another building close by. The beauty of being self-employed
is not being away from home so much but with an office building
somewhere in town that advantage would go away.

[...]
Phil,
Don't know where you are located, or what lot size you have. A few
years ago, while looking into buying manufactured housing, I found
several different little 'houses' that would make good offices. One
such is:

http://www.fleetwoodhomes.com/fpf/models.asp

There were better ones available, but I can't find them now. One had a
large living room, kitchenette, and small 'bedroom' area that would
have made a great office space.

Charlie


Thanks. I can't get to that web site because they seem to use a lot of
VBScript, which Firefox doesn't support. I'll certainly think about it,
though--I could do a lot with even 500 square feet. Of course the
zoning round here is pretty ferocious....

If you have no regular customer traffic and just work from home, what
can they do? If they prohibited work from home that's called
discrimination and a class would rather quickly be formed
They would try, trust me. ...

They might try, once

You don't know NewYawk politicians and other like busy bodies.

Just the AGs there are enough reason for me not to live there. Killing
off Usenet. Preaching ethics or whatever and then get caught in a
prostitution scandal, and so forth. That's not the kind of "values" I'd
like to stand for.

Freelance electronics types aren't a protected class; discrimination
is perfectly legal. ;-)/2

That's what a local board here thought as well. Until they opened the
newspaper a week later ...

Nothing to do. There *are* zoning laws. Those laws do discriminate
against types of businesses. It's perfectly legal.

Boy did they become friendly. Media in our country are pretty powerful
compared to other places of the world.




Working from home ain't illegal. Running a biz with lots of client
traffic might be, in some places (they've eased the rules here and allow
up to one employee in a few areas now).

Workign at home *is* illegal, in some jurisdictions. Some work is
perfectly legitimate (i.e. physicians, architects, teachers) while
other work violates zoning laws (beauty/barber and porn shops);
perfectly legitimate discrimination[*]. We are talking about that
silliness that is New Yawk.

[*] Discrimination is only illegal when it's against protected
classes.

 

[John Larkin]

Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:

[...]

Thanks. I can't get to that web site because they seem to use a lot
of VBScript, which Firefox doesn't support. I'll certainly think
about it, though--I could do a lot with even 500 square feet. Of
course the zoning round here is pretty ferocious....

If you have no regular customer traffic and just work from home, what
can they do? If they prohibited work from home that's called
discrimination and a class would rather quickly be formed

I meant building something in the back yard. Round here you get a
ticket for having a small sailboat in your back yard.

Briarcliff Manor NY: All the fun of a HOA with police enforcement to boot.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I want to build a barn next to the cabin in Truckee, a small
electronics lab and garage and toy storage. If I buy the lot next
door, I can only build a house on it. But if I then go down to city
hall and legally consolidate into one lot, I *can't* build another
"residence" (namely, no kitchen) but I can build a barn. Of course,
we'd have to pay two HOA fees forever, either way.

The fire danger is serious up there, so the organization concentrates
on that and has little energy to worry about much else.

Why not a house? After all, a decent lab must have a full size fridge
full of beer (but only the good stuff). Plus a freezer section with
pizzas in case of a late night project. Plus at least a four-burner
stove to cook a decent meal. And a coffee maker. And an espresso pot.
And ...

Come to think of it, a house and the ideal lab aren't all that different.

If it has a kitchen, it's "a house." We already have a house. I want a
barn. But I can't see how a few beers in a fridge under a workbench
could be called a "kitchen" so everything should be OK.

The EMI situation should be pretty good. There's a cell cite on Alder
Hill nearby, but it's trivial compared to the 22 megawatts raining
down on us from Sutro Tower. I could get an antenna and do EMI tests
up there.

John

 

[krw]

You're nuts. Canada makes New York look like Arizona. (OK, Arizona but
a bit more crooked.)

Yep. To sell into Canuckistan we have to have our widget listed. The
testing and appropriate listings are all done, but have to pay them a
bribe to get the paperwork filed in order to sell.

 

[Joerg]

krw wrote:

[...]

Just the AGs there are enough reason for me not to live there. Killing
off Usenet. Preaching ethics or whatever and then get caught in a
prostitution scandal, and so forth. That's not the kind of "values" I'd
like to stand for.

Coumo <> Spitzer, but close politically. The new guy is even worse.

I am just happy I don't have to live there.

Nothing to do. There *are* zoning laws. Those laws do discriminate
against types of businesses. It's perfectly legal.

That is legal. Often stupid, but legal.

Boy did they become friendly. Media in our country are pretty powerful
compared to other places of the world.



Working from home ain't illegal. Running a biz with lots of client
traffic might be, in some places (they've eased the rules here and allow
up to one employee in a few areas now).

Workign at home *is* illegal, in some jurisdictions. Some work is
perfectly legitimate (i.e. physicians, architects, teachers) while
other work violates zoning laws (beauty/barber and porn shops);
perfectly legitimate discrimination[*]. We are talking about that
silliness that is New Yawk.

[*] Discrimination is only illegal when it's against protected
classes.

It can take very little time to assemble a class. And it does not have
to be a protected one, proving disrimination is usually enough.
Silliness can quickly be ended by a judge or by a jury.

I would go to the mat if they'd discriminate, say, against engineers but
not against architects, both quietly doing CAD work. And then collect a
fat settlement

 

[krw]

krw wrote:

[...]

You don't know NewYawk politicians and other like busy bodies.

Just the AGs there are enough reason for me not to live there. Killing
off Usenet. Preaching ethics or whatever and then get caught in a
prostitution scandal, and so forth. That's not the kind of "values" I'd
like to stand for.

Coumo <> Spitzer, but close politically. The new guy is even worse.

I am just happy I don't have to live there.

The only difference being, I did.

That is legal. Often stupid, but legal.

Legal and intelligent usually don't fit in the same sentence. Your
point? ;-)

Boy did they become friendly. Media in our country are pretty powerful
compared to other places of the world.


Seriously, just because one person does something illegal doesn't give
license to another. No award at all.

Working from home ain't illegal. Running a biz with lots of client
traffic might be, in some places (they've eased the rules here and allow
up to one employee in a few areas now).

Workign at home *is* illegal, in some jurisdictions. Some work is
perfectly legitimate (i.e. physicians, architects, teachers) while
other work violates zoning laws (beauty/barber and porn shops);
perfectly legitimate discrimination[*]. We are talking about that
silliness that is New Yawk.

[*] Discrimination is only illegal when it's against protected
classes.

It can take very little time to assemble a class. And it does not have
to be a protected one, proving disrimination is usually enough.
Silliness can quickly be ended by a judge or by a jury.

No, discrimination laws are specific to specific classes, those being
sex, race,... There is nothing in there about engineers, though I
guess "disabled" could be argued. ;-)

I would go to the mat if they'd discriminate, say, against engineers but
not against architects, both quietly doing CAD work. And then collect a
fat settlement

Nope. They do and it's perfectly legal. IIRC, architects, surveyors
(LSPEs) doctors, lawyers, and teachers are specifically exempted. If
you're not a PE, nope. Not in the list. This was in NY, BTW. The
laws were created long before other professionals worked at home and
were designed to protect against piece work, and such.

 

[JosephKK]

Charlie E. wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
This year stinks in some ways, but it's an amazing time to be
buying test equipment.

True. Same for industrial real estate. Except that out here one
never knows whether and when the left blows a hole into the
business property tax cap (Prop 13) which can cause an exodus.
Plus a lot of places have been vacant for over a year so they
are all negative cash flow.

I'm looking around for some lab/office space myself, just on
spec. There's lots around. Still, the taxes are quite uncertain
round here too...leases appear always to include only the base
year's taxes. The competing possibilities are to move house or
add on...ick.

But you've got a fairly big house. If the kids move out to
wherever their universities are you'd have plenty of room. Also,
check the rules about granny flats. In many jurisdictions it's
pretty easy to put one up if not larger than 1200sqft or so. You'd
have to inquire first.
It's about 2200 square feet, with 5 larger-than-life personalities
in residence at the moment. Our #1 daughter Bronwen graduated a
couple of years ago, but is off work with a badly herniated disc,
and she's stuck here because there's a fight with the Workers Comp
folks that means that her health insurance won't pay for surgery
until the comp claim is settled...#2 daughter Magdalen is taking a
year off university, working part time and doing some music
classes. She has a wonderful opera voice and likes singing a lot,
which makes the house sound better but seem smaller. (She sounds a
great deal like Audra Macdonald, for fans of that sort of thing.)
#1 son Simon is a senior in high school, is nearly 6 feet 6, and
would like to have someplace to bring his friends and to watch
football. So Maureen and I are hip deep in offspring at
present--which is really rather pleasant, but definitely crowded.

Thus my taking up space in the basement and needing lots of quiet
doesn't fit too well with the rhythm of the place, unfortunately.


That is one full house. I guess your only options would be a granny
flat or another building close by. The beauty of being self-employed
is not being away from home so much but with an office building
somewhere in town that advantage would go away.

[...]

Phil,
Don't know where you are located, or what lot size you have. A few
years ago, while looking into buying manufactured housing, I found
several different little 'houses' that would make good offices. One
such is:

http://www.fleetwoodhomes.com/fpf/models.asp

There were better ones available, but I can't find them now. One hada
large living room, kitchenette, and small 'bedroom' area that would
have made a great office space.

Charlie


Thanks. I can't get to that web site because they seem to use a lot
of VBScript, which Firefox doesn't support. I'll certainly think
about it, though--I could do a lot with even 500 square feet. Of
course the zoning round here is pretty ferocious....

If you have no regular customer traffic and just work from home, what
can they do? If they prohibited work from home that's called
discrimination and a class would rather quickly be formed

I meant building something in the back yard. Round here you get a
ticket for having a small sailboat in your back yard.

Briarcliff Manor NY: All the fun of a HOA with police enforcement to boot.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

With an HOA like that, i would get my Ham radio licence, and stick an
obvious dish about 40 feet in the air with appropriate positioners for
moon bounce work. When the blue noses come stinking up the place have
the FCC come in and smash them. Might teach them something about the
potential problems of being piss-ants. But you have to be willing to
fight the fight all the way through.

 

[JosephKK]

Everyone should flee the nanny states, before they get nannied ;-) ...

...Jim Thompson

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I shit upon the State of Maryland...

http://spectator.org/blog/2009/09/11/could-acorn-video-maker-be-pro

Everyone should take their business, and their vacations, elsewhere.

Yeow. Maybe we should call ACORN, APORN

 

[UltimatePatriot]

... except that the FCC won't come in and smash them over a ham tower
or antenna.

The FCC has ruled (repeatedly) that they have no jurisdiction to
override HOA CC&Rs (which are in effect private contracts) over issues
of ham radio antennas. Congress never gave them the right to do so.

Rather, the OP might want to install several satellite-TV dishes, and
an over-the-air television antenna on a mast no more than 12' above
the roofline. If the HOA gets snippy about *that*, then the FCC can
(and perhaps will) get into the act. Congress passed a law which
specifically allows sat-TV dishes and OTA antennas, and which *does*
override local zoning laws and HOA rules (under some conditions).

Hams have been trying for years to persuade the FCC to extend this
override (known as the "OTARD regulations") to cover ham antennas.
The FCC has refused, telling hams that Congress will have to
enact a law which specifically extends OTARD to cover ham antennas (or
pass another law which has the same effect).

HOAs are yet one more retarded, money grubber, nail in the coffin of
what was America.

ALL land developers, the communities they build, and any banks that
utilize them are all dumbfucks that should go under.

The dumbfuck home buyers are even more retarded for EVER tolerating the
practice to begin with.

It is worse than Costco trying to tout their "service" as something
worthy of $50+ "membership fees", when they really do not have that many
bargains to begin with.

Idiot consumers that tolerate the fee are stupid to think they are
actually saving anything over Smart and Final or other large portion
model stores.

Americans are stupid for ever tolerating this "fee for no service"
mentality that "businesses" practice. I do not consider it a "business"
if the person running it takes part in such behavior.

The health care "industry" (read public rip off) is a perfect example.

We pay well over $200 per draw for blood tests, which get done in the
thousands per day realm. Just like in electronics, the price should
scale DOWN due to the number being done.

The other one is the "initial visit fee" that doctors have their stupid
accounting bitches, with their retarded boilerplate doctor's office
billing software crap. Charging my insurance company over $300 for a 5
minute data entry session done by a fucking retarded nurse instead of a
data entry clerk, to me, is fucking insurance fraud. The task isn't even
worth $20. Also, back in the seventies when the record keeping was a LOT
more labor intensive and costly, they did NOT charge such fees.

What is wrong with health care is the greed of the doctors, the
stupidity of their billing staff, and the greed of the insurance
"industry" that makes money no matter what takes place. Then, there is
the pharma industry and the fucking overkill FDA approval process which
costs about $900M per drug approval.

 

[Joerg]

krw wrote: [...]

[...]

That is legal. Often stupid, but legal.

Legal and intelligent usually don't fit in the same sentence. Your
point? ;-)

Zoning laws make no sense in many places. They are the reason our cities
are so splintered up, fall dead at night (except to the riff-raff) and
they clog freeways.

Boy did they become friendly. Media in our country are pretty powerful
compared to other places of the world.


Seriously, just because one person does something illegal doesn't give
license to another. No award at all.
Working from home ain't illegal. Running a biz with lots of client
traffic might be, in some places (they've eased the rules here and allow
up to one employee in a few areas now).
Workign at home *is* illegal, in some jurisdictions. Some work is
perfectly legitimate (i.e. physicians, architects, teachers) while
other work violates zoning laws (beauty/barber and porn shops);
perfectly legitimate discrimination[*]. We are talking about that
silliness that is New Yawk.

[*] Discrimination is only illegal when it's against protected
classes.

It can take very little time to assemble a class. And it does not have
to be a protected one, proving disrimination is usually enough.
Silliness can quickly be ended by a judge or by a jury.

No, discrimination laws are specific to specific classes, those being
sex, race,... There is nothing in there about engineers, though I
guess "disabled" could be argued. ;-)

I think a judge or jury would view that differently. If you let one type
of professional off the hook but ban the other with pretty much the same
work pattern, what else would that be called?

Nope. They do and it's perfectly legal. IIRC, architects, surveyors
(LSPEs) doctors, lawyers, and teachers are specifically exempted. If
you're not a PE, nope. Not in the list. This was in NY, BTW. The
laws were created long before other professionals worked at home and
were designed to protect against piece work, and such.

I'd have no problem going to the mat on that. And win

But not NY, there I'd just pack up and move out of state because of
other issues they've got. Such as hyperinflation in property taxes. Old
rule: If they make life difficult for some folks then their tax base
will erode.

 

[krw]

krw wrote:
krw wrote:
[...]

[...]

Freelance electronics types aren't a protected class; discrimination
is perfectly legal. ;-)/2

That's what a local board here thought as well. Until they opened the
newspaper a week later ...
Nothing to do. There *are* zoning laws. Those laws do discriminate
against types of businesses. It's perfectly legal.

That is legal. Often stupid, but legal.

Legal and intelligent usually don't fit in the same sentence. Your
point? ;-)

Zoning laws make no sense in many places. They are the reason our cities
are so splintered up, fall dead at night (except to the riff-raff) and
they clog freeways.

Well, that's not the only reason, but a good one. Who said laws had
to make sense. *Maybe*, *some* of them did, once upon a time. These
are still on the books though (at least they were when I lived in NY).

Boy did they become friendly. Media in our country are pretty powerful
compared to other places of the world.


Seriously, just because one person does something illegal doesn't give
license to another. No award at all.
Working from home ain't illegal. Running a biz with lots of client
traffic might be, in some places (they've eased the rules here and allow
up to one employee in a few areas now).
Workign at home *is* illegal, in some jurisdictions. Some work is
perfectly legitimate (i.e. physicians, architects, teachers) while
other work violates zoning laws (beauty/barber and porn shops);
perfectly legitimate discrimination[*]. We are talking about that
silliness that is New Yawk.

[*] Discrimination is only illegal when it's against protected
classes.

It can take very little time to assemble a class. And it does not have
to be a protected one, proving disrimination is usually enough.
Silliness can quickly be ended by a judge or by a jury.

No, discrimination laws are specific to specific classes, those being
sex, race,... There is nothing in there about engineers, though I
guess "disabled" could be argued. ;-)

I think a judge or jury would view that differently. If you let one type
of professional off the hook but ban the other with pretty much the same
work pattern, what else would that be called?

Nope. The law is very specific and there is a ton of precedent.
Common sense has nothing to do with it.

I'd have no problem going to the mat on that. And win

No, you wouldn't.

But not NY, there I'd just pack up and move out of state because of
other issues they've got. Such as hyperinflation in property taxes. Old
rule: If they make life difficult for some folks then their tax base
will erode.

That's the primary reason I moved out of VT. So, tell me why you're
still in CA. ;-)

 

[Joerg]

krw wrote:
krw wrote:
[...]
[...]


Freelance electronics types aren't a protected class; discrimination
is perfectly legal. ;-)/2

That's what a local board here thought as well. Until they opened the
newspaper a week later ...
Nothing to do. There *are* zoning laws. Those laws do discriminate
against types of businesses. It's perfectly legal.

That is legal. Often stupid, but legal.
Legal and intelligent usually don't fit in the same sentence. Your
point? ;-)

Zoning laws make no sense in many places. They are the reason our cities
are so splintered up, fall dead at night (except to the riff-raff) and
they clog freeways.

Well, that's not the only reason, but a good one. Who said laws had
to make sense. *Maybe*, *some* of them did, once upon a time. These
are still on the books though (at least they were when I lived in NY).

They should learn from the old world, back in Europe. There we could
walk to the grocer, to the bakery, to our dance studio, to church, to
restaurants. Even to most of the pubs, and that has a huge safety
advantage because nobody drove a car after having a few cold ones there.

Here, people have to drive just about everywhere. You can't schlepp a
pull cart full of groceries along a thoroughfare that has no sidewalks,
or use a bicycle, you'd be in the obituaries soon.

Very few cities like Davis in CA are re-learning. Most aren't.

Boy did they become friendly. Media in our country are pretty powerful
compared to other places of the world.


Seriously, just because one person does something illegal doesn't give
license to another. No award at all.
Working from home ain't illegal. Running a biz with lots of client
traffic might be, in some places (they've eased the rules here and allow
up to one employee in a few areas now).
Workign at home *is* illegal, in some jurisdictions. Some work is
perfectly legitimate (i.e. physicians, architects, teachers) while
other work violates zoning laws (beauty/barber and porn shops);
perfectly legitimate discrimination[*]. We are talking about that
silliness that is New Yawk.

[*] Discrimination is only illegal when it's against protected
classes.
It can take very little time to assemble a class. And it does not have
to be a protected one, proving disrimination is usually enough.
Silliness can quickly be ended by a judge or by a jury.
No, discrimination laws are specific to specific classes, those being
sex, race,... There is nothing in there about engineers, though I
guess "disabled" could be argued. ;-)

I think a judge or jury would view that differently. If you let one type
of professional off the hook but ban the other with pretty much the same
work pattern, what else would that be called?

Nope. The law is very specific and there is a ton of precedent.
Common sense has nothing to do with it.

That's what our airport board thought as well. Until we marched in there
with about 20 people (you should have seen the "oh s..t!" expression on
their faces, priceless), began to write letters in legalese, got the
press involved and so on. It was about them socking us with thousands of
Dollars for tree removal. Then they must have had a sitdown with their
counsel, probably another "oh s..t!" moment. Oh, did they suddenly
become friendly. One of the board members even offered me a ride in his
war bird. Dang, should have done it.

No, you wouldn't.

Should have watched me a few times

And yeah, that did include agencies who were absolutely convinced that
they were right. Learned it from my pa who had absolutely no hesitation
when he saw a case of serious over-reaching or injustice (and won). But
don't get me wrong, I am a quiet and peace-loving guy, not some
nitpicker. As long as the play remains fair, that is.

That's the primary reason I moved out of VT. So, tell me why you're
still in CA. ;-)

Clients, mostly. Some stuff cannot be done if you can't be there and
flying in from Alabama or Montana isn't practical in most of my CA cases.

 

[krw]

krw wrote:
krw wrote:
krw wrote:
[...]

[...]


Freelance electronics types aren't a protected class; discrimination
is perfectly legal. ;-)/2

That's what a local board here thought as well. Until they opened the
newspaper a week later ...
Nothing to do. There *are* zoning laws. Those laws do discriminate
against types of businesses. It's perfectly legal.

That is legal. Often stupid, but legal.
Legal and intelligent usually don't fit in the same sentence. Your
point? ;-)

Zoning laws make no sense in many places. They are the reason our cities
are so splintered up, fall dead at night (except to the riff-raff) and
they clog freeways.

Well, that's not the only reason, but a good one. Who said laws had
to make sense. *Maybe*, *some* of them did, once upon a time. These
are still on the books though (at least they were when I lived in NY).

They should learn from the old world, back in Europe. There we could
walk to the grocer, to the bakery, to our dance studio, to church, to
restaurants. Even to most of the pubs, and that has a huge safety
advantage because nobody drove a car after having a few cold ones there.

My grandfather left the old world for a reason. Didn't you for
similar reasons?

Here, people have to drive just about everywhere. You can't schlepp a
pull cart full of groceries along a thoroughfare that has no sidewalks,
or use a bicycle, you'd be in the obituaries soon.

Sure, we don't live on top of each other, fortunately. The US is a
*big* place.

Very few cities like Davis in CA are re-learning. Most aren't.

They're learning to be leftist Europeons, sure. No thanks!

Boy did they become friendly. Media in our country are pretty powerful
compared to other places of the world.


Seriously, just because one person does something illegal doesn't give
license to another. No award at all.
Working from home ain't illegal. Running a biz with lots of client
traffic might be, in some places (they've eased the rules here and allow
up to one employee in a few areas now).
Workign at home *is* illegal, in some jurisdictions. Some work is
perfectly legitimate (i.e. physicians, architects, teachers) while
other work violates zoning laws (beauty/barber and porn shops);
perfectly legitimate discrimination[*]. We are talking about that
silliness that is New Yawk.

[*] Discrimination is only illegal when it's against protected
classes.
It can take very little time to assemble a class. And it does not have
to be a protected one, proving disrimination is usually enough.
Silliness can quickly be ended by a judge or by a jury.
No, discrimination laws are specific to specific classes, those being
sex, race,... There is nothing in there about engineers, though I
guess "disabled" could be argued. ;-)

I think a judge or jury would view that differently. If you let one type
of professional off the hook but ban the other with pretty much the same
work pattern, what else would that be called?

Nope. The law is very specific and there is a ton of precedent.
Common sense has nothing to do with it.

That's what our airport board thought as well. Until we marched in there
with about 20 people (you should have seen the "oh s..t!" expression on
their faces, priceless), began to write letters in legalese, got the
press involved and so on. It was about them socking us with thousands of
Dollars for tree removal. Then they must have had a sitdown with their
counsel, probably another "oh s..t!" moment. Oh, did they suddenly
become friendly. One of the board members even offered me a ride in his
war bird. Dang, should have done it.

Well, you can worry them, but in the end they have the guns. The
recent town hall ruckus has started to worry some, but they have the
power.

Should have watched me a few times

I've seen people lose. Buildings had to be torn down. Don't piss off
the bureaucrat. If you can worry the politician you have a chance.
Bureaucrats don't care.

And yeah, that did include agencies who were absolutely convinced that
they were right. Learned it from my pa who had absolutely no hesitation
when he saw a case of serious over-reaching or injustice (and won). But
don't get me wrong, I am a quiet and peace-loving guy, not some
nitpicker. As long as the play remains fair, that is.

"Fair" is a very bad word. The world is *not* fair. "Fair" is for
fairies.

Clients, mostly. Some stuff cannot be done if you can't be there and
flying in from Alabama or Montana isn't practical in most of my CA cases.

You can fly directly from Atlanta to anywhere, at pretty much any
time. ;-) The only airport I've ever seen with five parallel runways
(and I-85 for a few more miles straight off the end of one).

 

[Joerg]

krw wrote:
krw wrote:
krw wrote:
[...]

[...]


Freelance electronics types aren't a protected class; discrimination
is perfectly legal. ;-)/2

That's what a local board here thought as well. Until they opened the
newspaper a week later ...
Nothing to do. There *are* zoning laws. Those laws do discriminate
against types of businesses. It's perfectly legal.

That is legal. Often stupid, but legal.
Legal and intelligent usually don't fit in the same sentence. Your
point? ;-)

Zoning laws make no sense in many places. They are the reason our cities
are so splintered up, fall dead at night (except to the riff-raff) and
they clog freeways.
Well, that's not the only reason, but a good one. Who said laws had
to make sense. *Maybe*, *some* of them did, once upon a time. These
are still on the books though (at least they were when I lived in NY).

They should learn from the old world, back in Europe. There we could
walk to the grocer, to the bakery, to our dance studio, to church, to
restaurants. Even to most of the pubs, and that has a huge safety
advantage because nobody drove a car after having a few cold ones there.

We can do that here. Walking distance to a couple of churches, a
Safeway, a dog park, a kid park, a baseball diamond, an actual canyon
with stream, a village with a hardware store, restaurants, bar, public
library, a neighborhood fancy food store, a bookstore, stuff like
that. You can walk most places on dirt lanes and stairways and pick
blackberries on the way, safe from cars. 13 minutes from SFO. But you
can't do that living in the burbs on a quiet 10 acres. It's a
tradeoff.

Well, it ain't 10 acres here. Normal small village. They just forgot the
sidewalks. So everybody drives and gains weight ;-)