... They were going to replace the meter anyway during solar installation so I figured I would wait it out.
Replaced the meter and there was little to no difference, all night every night I have about the same average power consumption of ~0.7kwH with spikes when the central air kicks on. ...
Did your solar power installation include the ability to sell energy back to your electric utility during the day, through an inverter connection between the solar panels and the grid? That's what many folks here in southwest Florida do. They get the PV panels installed for free and lease them through a third party. Florida Power and Light (FPL) installs a meter that can run "backwards" when the solar panels deliver excess energy to the grid, through an inverter synchronized to the grid frequency and phase.
Well, the meter doesn't really run backwards. It has no moving parts at all, being a "smart" meter that FPL can read at will. FPL can also shut off power to the house using this "smart" meter if their bill isn't paid. And if we allow FPL to shut off certain other things... like the water heater or air conditioner... during certain times of the day, FPL will pay us for that. They pay even if they don't have to shut anything off, such as to avoid "brown outs" or rolling "black outs" which we have yet to experience. Thinking about signing up for that.
There is no battery storage of the solar-generated electrical energy, so in the evening, at night, and in the early morning hours FPL supplies
all the energy to the home. If there are enough solar panels, it is possible to see a net gain in energy during the day, after deducting the cost of air conditioning. Selling excess energy back to FPL is supposed to amortize the lease on the solar panels, but your mileage (or kilometers) may vary.
I can believe you might have an average power usage of ~0.7kW, or about 700 watts, "all night every night," except for [power] "spikes when the central air kicks on." But what's with the
kwH (presumably kilowatt-hours) designation? That's an energy unit, NOT a power unit. You don't
consume power because power is the
rate at which energy is delivered to you from the electric utility. Or, sometimes if so equipped, the rate at which you sell energy back to the electric utility. You consume and pay for energy, not power.
The utility may pay you for whatever energy you contribute to the grid, but their rate of pay per kilowatt-hour is significantly less than what they charge you per kilowatt-hour to provide electricity from the grid to your house. Without some form of energy storage of electricity, to run things at night, it's difficult to break even with solar power, even if you can sell excess energy back to the utility operating the grid during the day.
It says on your profile that you are an electronics technician working at a (rather famous) battery company, but here you claim be an electrical engineer. No EE that I have known would ever confuse power with energy. We learn, almost from infancy, that a watt-second is a joule, which is the MKS unit for energy. A watt, in a purely resistive load is just the voltage drop across the load multiplied by the current through the load. And of course a second is a well-defined unit of time. Scaling up to kilowatt-hours, we find one kWH is equal to 3,600,000 joules.
I finally got around to purchasing an amp clamp meter to measure through my panel and see what comes of it.
I have 200A service, going into a 40 circuit panel with 36 slots filled, with a couple of sub panels (a 60 in an addition attic space and a 100 in the garage which was also an addition).
Running through there are a couple that I am not sure where exactly they feed but draw around 1.2wH to 40wH of power, totaling about 170wH of total idle consumption, this is mostly going to be smart home items, I have a few Echoes and Google Homes, some cameras, etc.
There is also the other big consumer which is my network stack, I have a Ubiquiti network stack and a NAS that runs 24/7 totaling about 120wH constantly.
There were a couple surprising items though that I am not sure about, my oil burner seems to draw around 100wH of power even when not in use, is that normal? Seems rather high to me personally.
Second and this is the most concerning, I have hardwired smoke detectors throughout the house, 10 total, and there is one circuit labelled "Smokes" which I can only assume is the smoke detectors, it draws a whopping 160wH constantly, which looking around online it seems like smoke detectors should not draw anywhere near that much power, even 10 of them. ...
Okay, lets assume you mean
watts when you mention "1.2wH to 40wH of power" but how did that become "170wH (170W?) of total idle consumption?" 170
watts is a LOT of Echo Dots and Google Homes, some hi-resolution wi-fi cameras, etc. Maybe one of those "etc" devices pulls down most of those 170W of power?
Whatever, let's just assume that particular branch circuit is using energy at 170W rate, constantly 24 hours per day, seven days per week, fifty-two weeks per year, ten years per decade, and ten decades per century. I won't add up how many kilowatt-hours of energy that would be for a century of use, but since your electric utility bills you on a monthly basis, that would be about 730 hours of continuous use per month, figured like this: (365 days/year) * (24 hours/day) / (12 months/year) = 730 hours per month.
So, for your "smart home" items, drawing 170 watts continuously, their monthly energy consumption is 170W x 730H =
124.1kWH.
I can see a network stack with an NAS pulling down 120W easily, depending on how many hard disk drives you have installed. I am typing this on a desktop computer, one of two I built about six years ago, that uses an Intel Core i7 CPU and 16 GB of DRAM on an ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 motherboard connected to a 1TB hard disk drive and a 128GB solid-state-disk drive, all powered by a Corsair AX850 power supply that isn't even breathing hard yet. This rig has plenty of room for expansion with more disk drives and third-party high-performance video boards, so I may have "over-designed" it for simple home use.
It wasn't quite on the "bleeding edge" of state-of-the-art personal computing "way back then," (dedicated gamers have deeeeper pockets) but these two desktop computers have held up well for how my wife and I use them. So again, whatever, let us assume your computer rig is pulling energy at a 120W rate and you leave it on all the time. The monthly energy consumption is 120W x 730H =
87.6kWH.
Next, you mention your oil burner draws energy at the rate of 100W, "even when not in use," and ask "is this normal?" This is a question best answered by the manufacturer of your HVAC system. It sounds about right to me, but I have not inspected your oil burner, so please do find someone who can inspect your burner and render a professional opinion.
In the early 1960s, my parents rented a house in Dayton, Ohio that was heated with oil. IIRC, there was a fan that fed forced air into the combustion chamber, and a high-voltage transformer that created an arc to light the oil vapors. There were other things too, of course, to determine when to turn on the pump that pressurized the oil, when to energize the high-voltage transformer to light the oil vapor, when NOT to leave the oil pump running if the oil vapor didn't ignite, etc. Lots of safety features, all of which required electricity to function. So, I would not be surprised if the "normal" power demand was about 100W, whether the house was being heated or not. This would surely increase if the furnace started burning oil to heat the house. The oil pump probably needs a few hundred watts, as does the blower fan. There are all sorts of oil-heated furnaces, so you would have to seek details from the manufacturer of your HVAC system concerning their energy requirements, both during active as well as standby conditions. But let's just assume your figure of 100W is correct so the monthly energy consumption is 100W x 730H =
73kWH.
And finally, you mention you have ten hardwired smoke detectors located throughout the house and their total electrical load is 160W, which is 16W per smoke detector. We have a similar arrangement in our Florida home, but with fewer detectors: one high in the vaulted ceiling of our open floor-plan "living room," and three more, one in each bedroom, for a total of four. Our smoke alarms are all wired with low-voltage AC power AND backed up with a 9V "smoke alarm" battery that gets replaced (or should get replaced) every year. There is a green LED on each detector that is constantly on, and a red LED that flashes periodically, perhaps to remind me to change the 9V battery. Whatever, I doubt any of my smoke detectors draws 16 watts to operate, or even a tenth of that. A few milliwatts is probably more likely. You should closely examine your smoke detectors to find out why such a large amount of power is being demanded. Unless your measurement was completely wrong, something is not right with your smoke detector system.
But, if we just assume you didn't screw up when you measured the power, the smoke detector monthly consumption of electrical energy is: 160W x 730H =
116.8kWH.
... If my math is correct, drawing that 600wH constantly would put my usage at around 400kwH per month, where my average usage per month is around 650kwH...
(0.6kwH * 8760hrs/year)/12 = 438kwH/mon ...
I added all the figures that I highlighted in
red in my response above, and arrived at
401.5kWH, which is significantly different from your estimate of 438kWH. I don't know where your multiplier of "0.6kwH" came from. I agree that either number is a huge percentage of your normal average monthly usage of 650kWH, but are you really only using 250kWH every month for everything else that uses electricity in your house? I just looked at my most recent FPL bill as we enter the summer cooling season... here in Venice, FL, the cooling season is all year, but some months are warmer than others... and I discovered we purchased 2654kWH of electricity last month. That is slightly more than we used over the same time frame last year, and more than four times your monthly consumption of electrical energy. So how much did those solar panels lower your monthly usage of electricity? And how much did it cost you?
... My question is, how do I go about chasing down who is consuming this extra power?
I know now that I have solar it doesn't matter as much, but I would like to minimize the power that I use if I can.
Yeah, don't we all? I do envy your 650kWH monthly energy usage and I wonder what it was before you installed solar panels? Maybe the cost of heating oil will jump to $500 per barrel this winter to compensate.
You have already received some good advice here from other EP posters on how to "go about chasing down who is consuming this extra power". You need to verify that this is really occurring by narrowing the list of suspects down to individual circuits that you can disconnect by turning circuit breakers off. If you find something suspicious, disconnect it from the branch circuit it is on and measure again. Always measure the current in a branch circuit
at the circuit breaker using your clamp-on ammeter. After you have disconnected every
known load on a particular circuit breaker, there should be
zero current measured. If that isn't true, you need to find out what is "stealing" current from that branch circuit. Perhaps injecting a "tone" on the branch circuit
with the circuit breaker turned off will assist you in tracing the fault, or at least help locate the wires connected to the fault.
Hiring an electrician is always an option, but you need to determine that a problem really exists before bringing in expensive outside help.
The easiest way to minimize your monthly energy usage is to increase the insulation in your house. Find several contractors who know what they are doing and get quotes. Ask neighbors for recommendations. Adding insulation can be expensive, but it will pay for itself in the long run by reducing heat gained during the summer and heat lost during the winter.
Thermally insulated and efficient windows help a lot to minimize heat gains and heat losses, but they are expensive solutions.
Getting rid of all or most of your incandescent lamps as well as the "curly bulb" fluorescent lamps was a wise move. We only had forty or so to replace when we moved here in 2016, but most of our lamps are now LEDs. Up north I was sometimes glad to have incandescent lamps because of the heat they gave off, but here in semi-tropical Florida they just aren't welcome.
Please let us know how your search goes.