CCTV cameras

[Periproct]

Hope this is vaguely the right place to ask........

Does anybody know where I can get decent CCTV cameras in the UK at a
reasonable price.
Buying one and seeing if it works OK in low light levels is an expensive
trail and error method.

I have a supposedly low lux radio camera from Ebay watching the rear of
house from the garage which is next to useless in low light levels
(completely black picture from around 16:00 to 10:00 this time of year).
A second more expensive camera from Maplin watching the carport is OK for a
longer period of the day but still not a lot of use at night. Both cameras
have IR leds.

IR illuminators seem very expensive and I'd like to avoid having the house
bristling with large security devices or the neighbours are going to think
I'm some kind of weirdo.

 

[Bob La Londe]

Hope this is vaguely the right place to ask........

Its as good as any althouth this is an alternative
http://www.cctvforum.com/

Does anybody know where I can get decent CCTV cameras in the UK at a
reasonable price.

Somebody might, but not me. Personally I have experienced a you get what
you pay for syndrome in CCTV cameras.

Buying one and seeing if it works OK in low light levels is an expensive
trail and error method.
Yep.

I have a supposedly low lux radio camera from Ebay watching the rear of
house from the garage which is next to useless in low light levels
(completely black picture from around 16:00 to 10:00 this time of year).
A second more expensive camera from Maplin watching the carport is OK for
a longer period of the day but still not a lot of use at night. Both
cameras have IR leds.

That's no surprise. Most cheap cameras with IR LEDs rate the viewing
distance misleadingly. When they say 30 foot range for instance they mean
against a highly IR reflective surface such as a sheet of glossy white sign
board. Means nothing in the real world. They seem to work better in
general indoors in rooms with dimensions smaller than their rated range.
Outdoors not so much. Heck, most better quality cameras with IR
illuminators don't produce a usable image at more than half their rated
distance.

IR illuminators seem very expensive and I'd like to avoid having the house
bristling with large security devices or the neighbours are going to think
I'm some kind of weirdo.

IR illuminators are expensive. Well good ones that are rated for outdoor
use anyway. How about motion activated flood lights instead? There are
some starlight vision cameras around, but I have not seen any available
through DIY sources. They are expensive and in the UK their use may be
limited as they do require some light to work. They would be usless during
an overcast night.

 

[shady]

That's no surprise. Most cheap cameras with IR LEDs rate the viewing
distance misleadingly. When they say 30 foot range for instance they mean
against a highly IR reflective surface such as a sheet of glossy white
sign board. Means nothing in the real world. They seem to work better in
general indoors in rooms with dimensions smaller than their rated range.
Outdoors not so much. Heck, most better quality cameras with IR
illuminators don't produce a usable image at more than half their rated
distance.

isn't there something about the color green absorbing ir instead of
reflecting it too?

not very useful when looking at grass and trees

 

[a]

Hope this is vaguely the right place to ask........

Does anybody know where I can get decent CCTV cameras in the UK at a
reasonable price.
Buying one and seeing if it works OK in low light levels is an expensive
trail and error method.

I have a supposedly low lux radio camera from Ebay watching the rear of
house from the garage which is next to useless in low light levels
(completely black picture from around 16:00 to 10:00 this time of year).
A second more expensive camera from Maplin watching the carport is OK for
a longer period of the day but still not a lot of use at night. Both
cameras have IR leds.

IR illuminators seem very expensive and I'd like to avoid having the house
bristling with large security devices or the neighbours are going to think
I'm some kind of weirdo.

My advice is stay clear of Maplins and CMOS cheap nasty "bargin" cameras
from Ebay

Its the old story of "You get what you pay for"

I've been in the business for 16 years and have watched CCTV market progress
so much, the only advice i'll give you is do your homework before you
buy,buy CCD only with at least a min of 480TVL and if its day/night useage
go for HAD/Super HAD

I deal with a few different companies but can recommend - Andy @ APC
Concepts in Warrington
http://www.apcconcepts.co.uk/
Give him a call or e-mail as i think hes updating his website

 

[Alex]

Hope this is vaguely the right place to ask........

Does anybody know where I can get decent CCTV cameras in the UK at a
reasonable price.
Buying one and seeing if it works OK in low light levels is an expensive
trail and error method.

Well I can recommend AXIS network cameras. I have a 206, and the
low-light performance is great. You cannot however connect this model to
a standard video system; it uses a network connection to stream the
video image.

Alex.

 

[stúfús]

try ' LJD '

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[Periproct]

try ' LJD '

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Thanks for that.