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Winfield Hill

A very strange and sad story appeared in our paper yesterday, perhaps
Jim knows more... http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6687831/

A parasite called cysticercosis (or cystercosis) may be to blame,
http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/1209Sun-Roof-Death-ON.html
http://www.spc.int/rahs/Manual/Porcine/CYSTICERCOSISE.htm
http://www.medicine.cmu.ac.th/dept/parasite/cestode/c137.htm
http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/cysticercosis.html
http://www.fao.org/ag/againfo/subjects/en/health/diseases-cards/cards/cysticercosis.html

Scary stuff. Be sure your pork is thoroughly cooked...

Hmm, perhaps Kevin Keogh didn't know about zapping with the right
frequency, http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1773
http://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Zapper/ZapperHomePage.html
While you're at it, check out the Zappicator. <groan>

It's a strange and dangerous world.
 
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Don Lancaster

Winfield said:
A very strange and sad story appeared in our paper yesterday, perhaps
Jim knows more... http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6687831/

A parasite called cysticercosis (or cystercosis) may be to blame,
http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/1209Sun-Roof-Death-ON.html
http://www.spc.int/rahs/Manual/Porcine/CYSTICERCOSISE.htm
http://www.medicine.cmu.ac.th/dept/parasite/cestode/c137.htm
http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/cysticercosis.html
http://www.fao.org/ag/againfo/subjects/en/health/diseases-cards/cards/cysticercosis.html

Scary stuff. Be sure your pork is thoroughly cooked...

Hmm, perhaps Kevin Keogh didn't know about zapping with the right
frequency, http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1773
http://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Zapper/ZapperHomePage.html
While you're at it, check out the Zappicator. <groan>

It's a strange and dangerous world.

Like the farmer who encouraged everyone to eat raw pork.
His sister finally asked him why he did it.

"Its the only trick I know Sis."

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Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: [email protected]

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
 
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Jim Thompson

A very strange and sad story appeared in our paper yesterday, perhaps
Jim knows more... http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6687831/
[snip]

He is (was) the CFO for Phoenix.

My daughter (Phoenix Water labs Manager) says he set the car's cruise
control before climbing out, so it was likely suicide.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Winfield Hill

Jim Thompson wrote...
He is (was) the CFO for Phoenix.

And apparently widely respected.
My daughter (Phoenix Water labs Manager) says he set the car's
cruise control before climbing out, so it was likely suicide.

So it was ruled. But if a person's ability to fully understand
the consequences of what he's doing is degraded by neurological
damage from a parasite, should that be called intentional suicide,
rather than a sad accident? No doubt his life insurance company
will seize on the suicide ruling. Very sad for the family.
 
J

John Woodgate

I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
My daughter (Phoenix Water labs Manager) says he set the car's cruise
control before climbing out, so it was likely suicide.

Well, that what happened, but there seems to be strong evidence of
mental unbalance.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote...

And apparently widely respected.


So it was ruled. But if a person's ability to fully understand
the consequences of what he's doing is degraded by neurological
damage from a parasite, should that be called intentional suicide,
rather than a sad accident? No doubt his life insurance company
will seize on the suicide ruling. Very sad for the family.

Depends on when the policy was issued. Most have 2 year limits, after
which suicide is covered.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Fred Bloggs

Winfield said:
Jim Thompson wrote...



And apparently widely respected.




So it was ruled. But if a person's ability to fully understand
the consequences of what he's doing is degraded by neurological
damage from a parasite, should that be called intentional suicide,
rather than a sad accident?

It's not considered suicide in this case- the controlling case is US 150
U.S. 468 , 1893 from CONNECTICUT MUT. LIFE INS. CO. OF HARTFORD
v. AKENS.No. 100.December 4, 1893 ( I think ...)

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=150&invol=468

"This case is governed by a uniform series of decisions of this court,
establishing that if one whose life is insured intentionally kills
himself when his reasoning faculties are so far impaired by insanity
that he is unable to understand the moral character of his act, even if
he does understand its physical nature, consequence, and effect, it is
not a 'suicide,' or 'self-destruction,' or 'dying by his own hand,'
within the meaning of those words in a clause excepting such risks out
of the policy, and containing no further words expressly extending the
exemption to such a case."

Suicide exemption insurance clause or not, the family will collect,
especially with the well documented mental illness and treatment. Heheh-
the antidepressants did it!- go after the pharmaceuticals too.
 
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Jim Thompson

[snip]
It's not considered suicide in this case- the controlling case is US 150
U.S. 468 , 1893 from CONNECTICUT MUT. LIFE INS. CO. OF HARTFORD
v. AKENS.No. 100.December 4, 1893 ( I think ...)

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=150&invol=468

"This case is governed by a uniform series of decisions of this court,
establishing that if one whose life is insured intentionally kills
himself when his reasoning faculties are so far impaired by insanity
that he is unable to understand the moral character of his act, even if
he does understand its physical nature, consequence, and effect, it is
not a 'suicide,' or 'self-destruction,' or 'dying by his own hand,'
within the meaning of those words in a clause excepting such risks out
of the policy, and containing no further words expressly extending the
exemption to such a case."

Suicide exemption insurance clause or not, the family will collect,
especially with the well documented mental illness and treatment. Heheh-
the antidepressants did it!- go after the pharmaceuticals too.

I didn't know of this case law, but I'm not in the least surprised,
given the well-documented mental deterioration.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jim said:
[snip]
It's not considered suicide in this case- the controlling case is US 150
U.S. 468 , 1893 from CONNECTICUT MUT. LIFE INS. CO. OF HARTFORD
v. AKENS.No. 100.December 4, 1893 ( I think ...)

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=150&invol=468

"This case is governed by a uniform series of decisions of this court,
establishing that if one whose life is insured intentionally kills
himself when his reasoning faculties are so far impaired by insanity
that he is unable to understand the moral character of his act, even if
he does understand its physical nature, consequence, and effect, it is
not a 'suicide,' or 'self-destruction,' or 'dying by his own hand,'
within the meaning of those words in a clause excepting such risks out
of the policy, and containing no further words expressly extending the
exemption to such a case."

Suicide exemption insurance clause or not, the family will collect,
especially with the well documented mental illness and treatment. Heheh-
the antidepressants did it!- go after the pharmaceuticals too.


I didn't know of this case law, but I'm not in the least surprised,
given the well-documented mental deterioration.

...Jim Thompson

The insurance companies have been taking a beating in favor of the
insured for the past thirty years- but I suppose if they put a clause in
the policy that expressly excludes self-destruction due to mental
illness or diminished capacity or similar then they are off the hook.
The main point here is that, under the law, this is not a suicide.
 
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Mark Fergerson

Winfield said:
A very strange and sad story appeared in our paper yesterday, perhaps
Jim knows more... http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6687831/

What worries me is that kept his job as PHX CFO while
"debilitated". WTF?
A parasite called cysticercosis (or cystercosis) may be to blame,

Hmm, perhaps Kevin Keogh didn't know about zapping with the right
frequency, http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1773
http://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Zapper/ZapperHomePage.html
While you're at it, check out the Zappicator. <groan>
Yeesh.

It's a strange and dangerous world.

That it is. Try convincing Liberals that it's not political.

Mark L. Fergerson
 
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John Woodgate

I read in sci.electronics.design that Mark Fergerson <[email protected]>
wrote (in said:
What worries me is that kept his job as PHX CFO while "debilitated".
WTF?

I formed the impression that the deterioration was rapid. A colleague of
mine began to break down through unsupportable stress over several
weeks, and we didn't notice anything significant before he flipped
entirely. But thankfully, he recovered.
 
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