Whats wrong with todays tv audio

[Ken G.]

I remember back in the 70`s when the sound on tv was loud and clear .
You only needed the volume 1/4 turn to hear crisp clear voices .

In todays technical world and digital video all i get for the sound
portion of tv around here is highly muffled very low volume .
When i listen to one station my volume bar on my tv is all the way up
and no trebble .
The next channel is so loud it is distorted .
The other channels are fair but still no highs , no trebble and the
commercials are 2X as loud as the show to where i have to mute the sound


My tv set is not broken .. its on all tv`s here . Other people agree
also notice it if i ask . I just saw a rerun of Welcome Back Carter on a
local station and the sound was perfect . Volume bar was 1/4 and plenty
of crisp clear trebble .
The next show was some recent ?? thing and back to the muffled low
trebble sound again .
I understand commercials at times do have louder volume but this blows
one out of his chair .

Are they that stupid !

 

[Jerry G.]

You should start looking at the higher end of TV sets. The low cost TV
sets will lack a lot of performance features. If you work in the rate
of inflation, you will see that the new TV sets of today are very low
priced, and offer low value of performance compared to what you can get
for a lot more dollars spent.

Something to also consider, most of the higher end TV sets are made to
be working with an independent audio system consisting of an amplifier
with a set of speakers. They are designed to have excellent sound
quality, which is requied when used with a quality type audio system.
This will contribute to having the maximum possible quality of sound.



Jerry G.
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[Guest]

You should start looking at the higher end of TV sets. The low cost TV
sets will lack a lot of performance features. If you work in the rate
of inflation, you will see that the new TV sets of today are very low
priced, and offer low value of performance compared to what you can get
for a lot more dollars spent.

Something to also consider, most of the higher end TV sets are made to
be working with an independent audio system consisting of an amplifier
with a set of speakers. They are designed to have excellent sound
quality, which is requied when used with a quality type audio system.
This will contribute to having the maximum possible quality of sound.

Good points. However, I've found audio quality varies widely
between programs, and on some it just plain sucks. The worst
I've ever heard is "Will & Grace". I've heard it on a dozen
different TV sets with different audio capabilities, and in every
case I've had to crank the volume to ridiculous levels or use
headphones just to understand the dialog.

 

[Ken G.]

Nope i have expensive Sharp LCD sets with deluxe audio & speakers .

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I remember back in the 70`s when the sound on tv was loud and clear .
You only needed the volume 1/4 turn to hear crisp clear voices .

And popup toasters made good toast.

In todays technical world and digital video all i get for the sound
portion of tv around here is highly muffled very low volume .

Perhaps it's your ears?

 

[Meat Plow]

And popup toasters made good toast.

Yeh no kidding. I bought a new Sunbeam toaster and most of the heating
elements were laying against the mica insulators rather than being looped
out where they can actually glow.

Perhaps it's your ears?

I notice on my 20" RCA TruFlat DVD-TV combo that voices are much softer
than music and sound effects. I find myself constantly turning it up and
down whereas the audio is delivered perfectly thru my 5:1 surround in my
living room.

 

[Ken G.]

And popup toasters made good toast.

Yes they did .. however you can still go out and get those . They have
not changed .

Perhaps it's your ears?

Then why do all the radio stations on any radio sound good and clear to
me and the commercials are not 2X volume .

Stop resisting

 

[Allodoxaphobia]

Good points. However, I've found audio quality varies widely
between programs, and on some it just plain sucks. The worst
I've ever heard is "Will & Grace". I've heard it on a dozen
different TV sets with different audio capabilities, and in every
case I've had to crank the volume to ridiculous levels or use
headphones just to understand the dialog.

And, there's a _reason_ to understand the dialog?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Yeh no kidding. I bought a new Sunbeam toaster and most of the heating
elements were laying against the mica insulators rather than being looped
out where they can actually glow.

I sat down and eased all of them away from the mica to get a better heat.
One side was always much more done than the other. Still, what do you expect
for $8?

 

[Meat Plow]

I sat down and eased all of them away from the mica to get a better heat.
One side was always much more done than the other. Still, what do you expect
for $8?

As much as I expected for 12.

 

[**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**]

I have noticed that with one of my sets, a Toshiba. I do not have the
factory remote for the Toshiba and so cannot set the audio options
properly. I suspect the set is in Mono mode, but is accepting L and R
from the cable box. It seems that under some programming (variable
within a program) the phasing is off and the sound is muffled. Voice
especially suffers. My new Sony LCD panel, is operating stereo from an
HDMI cable and sounds just fine.

If I can't find the proper remote for the Toshiba, I will probably
combine the L & R from the cable box with a "Y" cable and feed into only
one of the inputs on the TV.

I am curious if others have heard this problem?

I remember back in the 70`s when the sound on tv was loud and clear .
You only needed the volume 1/4 turn to hear crisp clear voices .

In todays technical world and digital video all i get for the sound
portion of tv around here is highly muffled very low volume .
When i listen to one station my volume bar on my tv is all the way up
and no trebble .
The next channel is so loud it is distorted .
The other channels are fair but still no highs , no trebble and the
commercials are 2X as loud as the show to where i have to mute the sound


My tv set is not broken .. its on all tv`s here . Other people agree
also notice it if i ask . I just saw a rerun of Welcome Back Carter on a
local station and the sound was perfect . Volume bar was 1/4 and plenty
of crisp clear trebble .
The next show was some recent ?? thing and back to the muffled low
trebble sound again .
I understand commercials at times do have louder volume but this blows
one out of his chair .

Are they that stupid !

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

 

[Satellite Robert]

[email protected] (Ken G.) wrote in 3234.bay.webtv.net:

I remember back in the 70`s when the sound on tv was loud and clear .
You only needed the volume 1/4 turn to hear crisp clear voices .

In todays technical world and digital video all i get for the sound
portion of tv around here is highly muffled very low volume .
When i listen to one station my volume bar on my tv is all the way up
and no trebble .
The next channel is so loud it is distorted .
The other channels are fair but still no highs , no trebble and the
commercials are 2X as loud as the show to where i have to mute the sound


My tv set is not broken .. its on all tv`s here . Other people agree
also notice it if i ask . I just saw a rerun of Welcome Back Carter on a
local station and the sound was perfect . Volume bar was 1/4 and plenty
of crisp clear trebble .
The next show was some recent ?? thing and back to the muffled low
trebble sound again .
I understand commercials at times do have louder volume but this blows
one out of his chair .

Are they that stupid !

I know what you're saying. I end up having to leave the closed-captioning
on just to understand what they are saying.

 

[2tone]

You should start looking at the higher end of TV sets. The low cost TV
sets will lack a lot of performance features.

LOLOL .. do you work in sales haha ..i've heard the ol .. "ya have to
spend more " line before

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

LOLOL .. do you work in sales haha ..i've heard the ol .. "ya have to
spend more " line before

Some TV sets these days include an audio compressor which can help with
the usual complaints about some progs or ads being louder than others.
Also poor loudspeakers with resonances etc can upset the clarity of speech.
There's no TV I've ever heard that can't be improved drastically by the
addition of even a budget external speaker system.

 

[zekor]

I remember back in the 70`s when the sound on tv was loud and clear .
You only needed the volume 1/4 turn to hear crisp clear voices .

In todays technical world and digital video all i get for the sound
portion of tv around here is highly muffled very low volume .
When i listen to one station my volume bar on my tv is all the way up
and no trebble .
The next channel is so loud it is distorted .
The other channels are fair but still no highs , no trebble and the
commercials are 2X as loud as the show to where i have to mute the sound


My tv set is not broken .. its on all tv`s here . Other people agree
also notice it if i ask . I just saw a rerun of Welcome Back Carter on a
local station and the sound was perfect . Volume bar was 1/4 and plenty
of crisp clear trebble .
The next show was some recent ?? thing and back to the muffled low
trebble sound again .
I understand commercials at times do have louder volume but this blows
one out of his chair .

Are they that stupid !

I started having trouble on cable channels, cable company fault, way
back. Its now much better. i started using automatic volume controls. I
first started using the VCR's built in circuit. I also started making
automatic volume controls, and then i bought a couple. The treble
should not vary widely regardless. I also had a problem using the
Hughes SRS, which changed the ambiance volume depending on program
material. Just using a small TV right now with no problems on Comcast.

greg

 

[Marcus]

Ever considered the possibility that your hearing is deteriorating with age
??

--
Best Regards

Mark

It's time to add some chlorine to the gene pool !

 

[Guest]

Some sets have small speakers and low power amplifiers.

Try connecting the audio output to a stereo amplifier. you'll notice
a great improvement in the audio. I hardly listen to my set without
playing it through the stereo.

b.

 

[[email protected]]

I have noticed that with one of my sets, a Toshiba. I do not have the
factory remote for the Toshiba and so cannot set the audio options
properly. I suspect the set is in Mono mode, but is accepting L and R
from the cable box. It seems that under some programming (variable
within a program) the phasing is off and the sound is muffled. Voice
especially suffers. My new Sony LCD panel, is operating stereo from an
HDMI cable and sounds just fine.

If I can't find the proper remote for the Toshiba, I will probably
combine the L & R from the cable box with a "Y" cable and feed into only
one of the inputs on the TV.

I am curious if others have heard this problem?

YES! ! ! We have noticed this, too.

The volume sometimes must go up passed 3/4, then a commercial hits and
there is bone jarringly clear speech and/or music! Even as recently as
5 years ago, volume was great near 1/4, but now...

Delay and recombining the sound may be the cause for the loss of
treble.

It would only take a delay between the two channels of around 147 uS to
completely destroy 3.4 KHz

A telephone does not have a lot of bandwidth, only 30 Hz to around 3.4
KHz, but speech is understood. One does not need a costly sound system
to recreate that spectrum.

Increasing the upper limit to 5KHz makes speech sound crisp and is very
easily understood.

However, start losing the high end, move 3.4KHz down to 3 KHz and
speech becomes un-intelligible. Sounds muffled, just like what these
TV shows now sound like.

- Robert -