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Arfa Daily

William Sommerwerck said:
PS: The Mythbusters demonstrated that a person cannot be decapitated by a
ceiling fan. However, a chopper blade is not a ceiling fan.

They also demonstrated that you can't get electrocuted pissing on a
live-rail railroad track ! I think a lot of what they do is carefully
'dimensioned' to create good television, and a lot of what they use as their
'proofs', makes for very dubious science ...

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Meat Plow

They also demonstrated that you can't get electrocuted pissing on a
live-rail railroad track ! I think a lot of what they do is carefully
'dimensioned' to create good television, and a lot of what they use as their
'proofs', makes for very dubious science ...

Arfa

I'll bet an industrial ceiling fan with sharpened metal blades could lop
off your noggin right quick :)

As far as the Mythbusters goes, they also demonstrated that you couldn't
get shocked by pissing on an electric fence. Although I've not tried it, I
once saw a drunk chick bare her ass to take a pee and make contact with an
electric fence. This happened years ago at a dairy farm I worked on in my
youth.
 
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William Sommerwerck

They also demonstrated that you can't get electrocuted pissing on a
live-rail railroad track!

And very convincingly! There were two reasons -- first, the pisser doesn't
usually make sufficiently good contact with the ground. And second, the
urine stream breaks up into droplets that can't conduct.

One of the things that makes Mythbusters generally credible is that, when
something doesn't work, they push it to the point where it does work --
which is usually beyond the point of credibility. They did it in this case
by bringing the gel dummy close enough to the rails where so that the urine
stream did not break up -- and he was "electrocuted".

I think a lot of what they do is carefully 'dimensioned' to create good
television, and a lot of what they use as their 'proofs', makes for very
dubious science ...

Science is not "facts" but "process". They are generally good at "process",
except when they don't perform an experiment often enough to reduce the
likelihood of sampling error.
 
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Arfa Daily

William Sommerwerck said:
Well, you might very well be right. Let us know what you find out.

Some years ago I discovered that some things I thought were true, or had
happened, were actually dreams.

For example, I remember reading some philosopher's statement that "All
systems fail by excess of their principle." Yet I've never been able to
locate it. I apparently dreamed it.

If this is true (and I think it is), this type of dream-becomes-reality is
probably common. I don't know if psychologists are aware of it, or if any
studies have been done, but it would explain a lot of things -- such as
alien abductions, etc.

OK, I just spoke to my friend, and he absolutely confirms the story, as I
told it. He actually knew the pilot and the family. He was unable to attend
the funeral himself, but several other close friends and fellow pilots, did.
His explanation is that it was all down to "100 hour syndrome", where a
private pilot with 100 full-license hours up on a machine, gets complacent,
and careless. Apparantly, it is absolutely laid down in the safety rules
that the pilot must remain in his seat, hauling on the rotor brake, until it
has come to a complete stop, when it must then be chained down. Such was his
excitement at seeing his little girl waiting for him, this all went out the
window, and this hideous accident was the result. He believes that it was
reported in one of the local papers, but not in the nationals, so either I
did read it as I believed, or I heard it directly from him. He reckons it
was about 2002 / 3.

I know what you mean about dream realities. It's sort of like the more times
you tell the story, the truer it becomes. I think that such stories are
often based in reality, but come about as a result of added embellishments
to improve the entertainment value. Further, I think that if you really
examine what you're saying at the time you are saying it, deep down, you
*know* that it's a 'story' you are telling. I know that I have such stories
that I've got used to telling in a certain way over the years, and as I tell
them, I know that particular events in the story didn't actually happen in
the way I am telling them, so I think that they have probably 'developed'
that way to elicit the sorts of reactions from the listeners, that please
you in the way that you want them to.

Arfa
 
There was a big pig in Montana.That pig knew he was going to get zapped
by that electric fence.The pig didn't care, he was going out anyway.
cuhulin
 
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Arfa Daily

William Sommerwerck said:
And very convincingly! There were two reasons -- first, the pisser doesn't
usually make sufficiently good contact with the ground. And second, the
urine stream breaks up into droplets that can't conduct.

One of the things that makes Mythbusters generally credible is that, when
something doesn't work, they push it to the point where it does work --
which is usually beyond the point of credibility. They did it in this case
by bringing the gel dummy close enough to the rails where so that the
urine
stream did not break up -- and he was "electrocuted".



Science is not "facts" but "process". They are generally good at
"process",
except when they don't perform an experiment often enough to reduce the
likelihood of sampling error.

Well, whatever the integrity of the science and the methodology used in its
pursuit, it's pretty entertaining telly, I'll grant you that ! Did you see
my additional post above, about the truth of the decapitated child story
that I had previously related ?

Arfa
 
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Michael A. Terrell

There was a big pig in Montana.That pig knew he was going to get zapped
by that electric fence.The pig didn't care, he was going out anyway.
cuhulin


That pig escaped, and invented WebTV.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Smitty Two

Arfa Daily said:
OK, I just spoke to my friend, and he absolutely confirms the story, as I
told it. He actually knew the pilot and the family. He was unable to attend
the funeral himself, but several other close friends and fellow pilots, did.
His explanation is that it was all down to "100 hour syndrome", where a
private pilot with 100 full-license hours up on a machine, gets complacent,
and careless. Apparantly, it is absolutely laid down in the safety rules
that the pilot must remain in his seat, hauling on the rotor brake, until it
has come to a complete stop, when it must then be chained down. Such was his
excitement at seeing his little girl waiting for him, this all went out the
window, and this hideous accident was the result. He believes that it was
reported in one of the local papers, but not in the nationals, so either I
did read it as I believed, or I heard it directly from him. He reckons it
was about 2002 / 3.

I know what you mean about dream realities. It's sort of like the more times
you tell the story, the truer it becomes. I think that such stories are
often based in reality, but come about as a result of added embellishments
to improve the entertainment value. Further, I think that if you really
examine what you're saying at the time you are saying it, deep down, you
*know* that it's a 'story' you are telling. I know that I have such stories
that I've got used to telling in a certain way over the years, and as I tell
them, I know that particular events in the story didn't actually happen in
the way I am telling them, so I think that they have probably 'developed'
that way to elicit the sorts of reactions from the listeners, that please
you in the way that you want them to.

Arfa

Well, that is damn gruesome. The NTSB (National Transportation Safety
Board) maintains a searchable online database of aircraft accidents
here. Anything comparable there that might have the official details?
 
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jakdedert

Meat said:
I'll bet an industrial ceiling fan with sharpened metal blades could lop
off your noggin right quick :)

As far as the Mythbusters goes, they also demonstrated that you couldn't
get shocked by pissing on an electric fence. Although I've not tried it, I
once saw a drunk chick bare her ass to take a pee and make contact with an
electric fence. This happened years ago at a dairy farm I worked on in my
youth.

In my own youth, I once accidentally played a stream of water, from a
hose, on an electric fence. I had my finger over the end, directing the
stream. That one was not powerful enough to electrocute anything; but I
definitely felt the jolt. Didn't hurt me, but certainly surprised me.

jak
 
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