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R.D. Heilman
Anyone know anything about N. Tesla's experiments using
the earth's magnetic lines of force to generate electric power?
RD
the earth's magnetic lines of force to generate electric power?
RD
Anyone know anything about N. Tesla's experiments using
the earth's magnetic lines of force to generate electric power?
RD
I visited a museum in Serbia some twenty years ago & I remember seeingTom The Great said:I believe NASA has used this in experiments, but dropped it since it
actually causes the Shuttle to loose forward energy. "The Space
Tether Experiment?"
R.D. Heilman said:I visited a museum in Serbia some twenty years ago & I remember seeing
a section on Tesla's experiments. Evidently the US had turned over Tesla's
papers to that government. I remember illustrations depicting
his experiments where he had stretched miles of copper wire across the
desert in New Mexico(?) intersecting the earth's force fields at the
90deg.
angle as required. But he was "run out of town" before he was able to
complete his experiment. However, the curator believed he had succeeded
to a limited degree.
If I remember correctly, what Tesla had proposed was a concept of
biulding massive power generation stations that would "pump"
electrical energy into the earth like a giant tank circuit, so the
earth's magnetic field would fluctuate on it's own. Then all you would
need would be a wire or coil in the correct relative orientation and
you could tap off power anywhere.
The flaw in his thinking was that someone would need to generate the
power and "pump" it into the earth, but there was no way for them to
generate revenue from the users to pay for it. Minor detail to Tesla,
major detail to his backers.
Over the years this concept morphed into "free" energy from Earth's
magnetic field. It was never free, only the harvesting of it was.
Pixmaker said:A few days ago, I stopped beside the highway to talk with the foreman of a
line crew that was
stringing a new, 240-KVolt transmission line on 80-foot concrete towers.
I noticed that the three
transmission cables (not yet energized) were tied togetherand grounded
with what looked like
humongous clip leads. I thought this was a routine safety measure to avoid
injury if a new cable
might accidently fall onto the pre-existing, 130-KVolt lines.
The foreman explained that, with 3-5 miles of continuous cable swaying in
the wind (the supports
were about 600 feet, or more apart) there was significant danger from
voltages generated by the
cables' motion within the earth's magnetic field. In fact, he said, men
have been killed when these
new cables are not grounded.
I can understand that a few miles of high-line is a really serious antenna
but didn't think that a
one-turn (or half a turn) coil could generate any real energy. It seems to
me that the wind motion
would cause a polarity reversal with each reversal of cable direction thus
cancelling any serious
generation. Also, there's a good probability that different catenary spans
would move in
out-of-phase ways, with further cancelling effects.
Then there's the possibility of inductive coupling with existing
high-voltage cabling parrallel to
the new lines. Now that, I think, could pick up some significant energy!
And what about lightning
in the area?. I would guess there could be some serious voltage pulses
generated, especially here in
"lightning alley, USA." (South Florida.)
Funny how my brain works. . . (funny peculiar, not funny ha ha.) I wonder
if it is possible, within
reason, to build a pickup coil big enough to string in your back yard and
(if you lived beside one
of those easements containing a dozen or so transmission lines at about
250,000 Volts) pick up
enough energy to provide power for lighting, etc.
I live in a condo quite a long distance from any high lines so my
experimental urges must remain
frustrated. But I think it's a kinda fun idea! I'm many decades removed
from my courses in
electromagnetic induction so the local utility is safe from my poaching.
Has anyone any practical experience with this matter? Or was that old guy
running that crew just
having a little fun with me? What do you think?
Pixmaker in FLL
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Ohhhhhh.......
I remember something in school, a long time ago, about Telsa
researching tranmitting power, througth the air. That sounded crazy,
even with knowing about microwave energy. But this induce fluxuating
Magnetic sphere, might have sold a few news articles.
Good stuff.
tom
Bob said:Tesla did in fact work very dilligently on that, building a massive
(for the time) structiure called the Wycliff Tower in New Jersey. His
idea was to transmitt power eventually to a duplicate tower in Europe.
This came after his idea on the electricity transmission through the
earth's magnetic field, partly because of the pressure he got to make
something commercially profitable. He never finished it though, his
backers pulled out before it could be proven. As it turns out, Tesla
had grossly miscalculated the amount of energy that could be
transmitted that way, and of course he never concerned himself with
side effects.
A side result of his experiments is what eventually lead to radio wave
transmission, from which Marconi benefitted. Tesla sued him over the
rights to claim the invention of the wireless transmitter, and won
eventually, but the fact reamins that in Tesla's case it was somewhat
accidental, Marconi actually set out specifically to transmit signals
like a telegraph.
It was Wardenclyffe, not that that matters.
Long before the tower he demonstrated a model submarine remotely
controlled by radio, a sensation at the time. My impression is that the
patents included using resonant circuits to permit multiple chanel
communication. I think the final patent battle was Marconi against the
US government, and the US used Tesla's patents to defeat Marconi.
Interesting person, in both positive and negative ways. When I was in
school all I heard about was the Tesla coil, but he had all the basic
patents on AC motors and a lot of other AC apparatus.
bud--
Tom The Great said:One thing that impressed me about Telsa, he didn't like T. Edison. I
was originally impressed with him, and glad to meet him, but later
dispised him. It seems that in a conversation, Edison mentioned that
he had some electrical differculties with power generation, and would
give a large sum of money to the person who found the solution. Telsa,
worked on the problems, and gave them to Edison. Edison was greatful,
and gave no money, he told Telsa he should learn to understand
American humor.
For us, good thing they had a falling out. If Telsa became another
cronnie of Edison, his creative personality might have been hindered.
later,
tom @ www.NoCostAds.com
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Tesla breakthroughs- the induction machine and polyphase AC were not given
to Edison. Edison was fully wrapped up with his DC systems. Westinghouse got
the benefit of Tesla's work at a royalty of $1 per KW and he gave this up
when Westinghouse was in difficulty. Edison fought tooth and nail against
AC, and managed to convince the NY state penal authority that AC was more
lethal and shoould be used for the first electric chair. So goes the story.
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Tesla breakthroughs- the induction machine and polyphase AC were not given
to Edison. Edison was fully wrapped up with his DC systems. Westinghouse got
the benefit of Tesla's work at a royalty of $1 per KW and he gave this up
when Westinghouse was in difficulty.
I thought it was the opposite; NYS chose AC since it was moreEdison fought tooth and nail against
AC, and managed to convince the NY state penal authority that AC was more
lethal and shoould be used for the first electric chair. So goes the story.
krw said:I thought it was the opposite; NYS chose AC since it was more
lethal and Edison said, "See!".
krw said:I thought it was the opposite; NYS chose AC since it was more
lethal and Edison said, "See!".