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Jim Thompson

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Obama: A reincarnation of Nixon, but without ANY scruples,
masquerading in politically-correct black-face.
 
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krw

No I'm an Admiral.

Now, AlwaysWrong, there is nothing admiral about you.
You? You are like that of a sunspot on my dim bulb. That is the level
of your existence. A thermal void.

Your bulb is so dim even the sun won't light it.
 
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DarkSucker

Now, AlwaysWrong, there is nothing admiral about you.


Your bulb is so dim even the sun won't light it.


No. I absorb the dark, leaving behind only light...
 
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Spehro Pefhany

I was talking about the thermal conductivity of electrical conductors.
The same electrons that transport current also transport heat - pretty
much - so most metals are the same as regards how much current you can
carry for a given heat loss. This matters for stuff like getting power
into a crystal oven or a cryogenic gadget, where we really don't want
the heat loss through the leads.

People use stainless and manganin wire to run to really cold (liquid
helium) gadgets so as to not leak too much heat. Google "Garwin
thermal integral" for some messy math.

John

We also use phosphor-bronze alloy, but I think its main advantage is
high electrical resisitivity (while still being reasonable to handle),
and thus low thermal conductivity, rather than a deviation from the
theoretical (Lorenz) proportionality. IOW, electrically and thermally
it just behaves as a very (impractically) thin copper wire.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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John Larkin

And google John Larkin for occasional very sloppy math/physics/units.

Cite?

Do you think that characterizing a material for thermal resistance per
ohm of electrical resistance is somehow "sloppy"? Or maybe a mortal
sin? I've found the concept to be useful a number of times. The cryo
folks deal with this all the time.

All sorts of metrics can be fun, like transformer watts per pound [1],
degress C per foot of altitude, dollar value of Virtex FPGAs per cubic
meter, raindrops per square mile per second, stuff like that. I
suppose you'd disapprove of the associated engineering units.

Come on, quit being so Slomanesque and have a little fun with math.

John

[1] Grab a couple of catalogs and do a scatter graph on that one.
Interesting, at least for people who find things interesting.
 
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John Larkin

The standard unit of thermal conductivity (inverse of thermal
resistance) is W/(m*K), no "ohms" involved. So much for your "fun
fact"

What a doofus you are determined to be. One can certainly define a
material property Z = thermal conductivity per ohm of electrical
resistance. For most pure metals, it's about 150,000 (K/W)/ohm.

Among other things, it's a quick way to convert wire tables into
values of thermal resistance for copper wires or rods.

What you're proving is how rigid your thinking is constrained by
"standard units." Lighten up a little.

John
 
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Rich Grise

All sorts of metrics can be fun, like transformer watts per pound [1],

[1] Grab a couple of catalogs and do a scatter graph on that one.
Interesting, at least for people who find things interesting.

This isn't as goofy as it sounds - I've actually used this parameter,
albeit it was spec'd as "volt-amps".

Back in my HAM days (ca. half a century ago), this was mentioned in
more than one article on rewinding surplus transformers. Well, more
like the cross-section of the middle leg of the E, but it translates
quite well into VA/lb. (or lb/VA, depending on your POV.)

In fact, I once had a boss make a fool of himself over this - I was
tasked to spec a replacement transformer, because they'd changed the
requirements for one of the secondaries.

In this box, they had a selector switch to choose one of two secondaries,
but NEVER both (DPDT Switch); and I only had to change one, and the VA
didn't change much. The moron boss overrode me and spec'd it as if BOTH
secondaries would be running at once, which they were guaranteed (in this
box) to never do.

This was a retrofit, i.e., an ECO.

The new tranny came in and it didn't even fit in the original box! I
almost felt bad for the guy, he was so embarrassed, but I secretly gloated
inside because the guy was like The Fourth Stooge - worse than Dilbert's
PHB.

After I got myself fired and collected a few months' unemployment, I got
a new job, which was about the best job I'd ever had, and at the new
company, I ran into two - count'em - TWO former co-workers who had worked
under TFS. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

I thought this was because they stand up to the cryo temps better than
other alloys.
We also use phosphor-bronze alloy, but I think its main advantage is
high electrical resisitivity (while still being reasonable to handle),
and thus low thermal conductivity, rather than a deviation from the
theoretical (Lorenz) proportionality. IOW, electrically and thermally
it just behaves as a very (impractically) thin copper wire.

This (thermal :: electrical) kinda breaks down with diamond. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
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DarkSucker

Dogs, you are so very really good at being AlwaysWrong.


Is that karmic dogma or dogmic karma?

Oh, that's right... it's just you being retarded... again.
 
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Mycelium

We also use phosphor-bronze alloy, but I think its main advantage is
high electrical resisitivity (while still being reasonable to handle),
and thus low thermal conductivity, rather than a deviation from the
theoretical (Lorenz) proportionality. IOW, electrically and thermally
it just behaves as a very (impractically) thin copper wire.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany


Magnetically couple power into the chamber, and use bluetooth to radio
the data out. :)
 
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life imitates life

What a doofus you are determined to be. One can certainly define a
material property Z = thermal conductivity per ohm of electrical
resistance. For most pure metals, it's about 150,000 (K/W)/ohm.

Among other things, it's a quick way to convert wire tables into
values of thermal resistance for copper wires or rods.


What you're proving is how rigid your thinking is constrained by
"standard units." Lighten up a little.

John


Multi-dimensional...
 
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