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John Gilmer

I had a old microwave over which I picked up at Monkey Wards (now out of
business) back in 1977/78. It just kept on running and running and
running. The "touch" keypad was difficult to operate and it was clear that
it wasn't quite as powerful as it was but it was there.

Last week, it stopped. We had already planned on replacing it with an over
the over model (more about that in another post) so I wasn't upset.

I decided to take it apart "just to see."

Some comments on what I found:

1) That thing was SOLID! It was really, really well put together.

2) It had two (2), two pole (plus pilot) contactors. One was for the
"browning" element. The other was for fail safe purposes. The final
switching to the transformer was by some kind of triac (there was a diagram
showing all the power and contactor wiring -- the "logic" just showed the
120 volt and "safety" and sensor interfaces).

3) When I had opened things up, I almost wished I had been a little more
careful (because of dirt, I ended up bending the outer sheet metal to get it
off). Turns out the Triac (or whatever) had broken off from it's heat
sink. Without the heatsink, it failed (the proof was that the wiring to
the triac showed some heat damage to the insulation. I was almost tempted
to get another triac and put the thing back together.

I "salvaged" a bunch of stuff like:

1) The control panel -- it's powered from 120 volts. I might be able to
find some use for it. My older girl said she might enjoy having it so I
might find some way of getting it powered and not be a shock hazard to her.

2) The contactors (both nameplated for 15 amps.

3) The MAIN transformer, high voltage diode, and voltage doubling
capacitor.

4) The magnitron tube (still has the heat sink but I want to see
how they focused the magnetic.

5) The permanent magnets (two flat "donuts". The magnetic
circuit was completed by some heavy gauge sheet steel. I might keep them
and play with the effects on conductors dropped between the poles.

6) Some power hardware including a combo fuse block and male "slip on"
terminal block.

7) The MANY microswitches (safety, door switch, temperature probe
sensor)

8) The overheat sensor on the microwave cooling fins (NC).

9) The thermal fuse that detected whether the contents of the over
were on fire!

10) The 50 rpm "stirrer motor"

11) The cooling fan.

For now, I will just move the stuff to a "junk box."

If anyone has any projects to suggest, let me know.

Anyway, I figured some of your would be amused by the whole thing.
 
K

Kirk Johnson

John Gilmer said:
I had a old microwave over which I picked up at Monkey Wards (now out of
business) back in 1977/78. It just kept on running and running and
running. The "touch" keypad was difficult to operate and it was clear
that
it wasn't quite as powerful as it was but it was there.
If anyone has any projects to suggest, let me know.

Take it to the dump or just dump it on the side of the road somewhere.

Kirk Johnson - "Stretchin it to the max since 1977."
http://www.thethirteenthstep.com/images/goatse-pwned.jpg
 
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ehsjr

John said:
I had a old microwave over which I picked up at Monkey Wards (now out of
business) back in 1977/78. It just kept on running and running and
running. The "touch" keypad was difficult to operate and it was clear that
it wasn't quite as powerful as it was but it was there.

Last week, it stopped. We had already planned on replacing it with an over
the over model (more about that in another post) so I wasn't upset.

I decided to take it apart "just to see."

Some comments on what I found:

1) That thing was SOLID! It was really, really well put together.

2) It had two (2), two pole (plus pilot) contactors. One was for the
"browning" element. The other was for fail safe purposes. The final
switching to the transformer was by some kind of triac (there was a diagram
showing all the power and contactor wiring -- the "logic" just showed the
120 volt and "safety" and sensor interfaces).

3) When I had opened things up, I almost wished I had been a little more
careful (because of dirt, I ended up bending the outer sheet metal to get it
off). Turns out the Triac (or whatever) had broken off from it's heat
sink. Without the heatsink, it failed (the proof was that the wiring to
the triac showed some heat damage to the insulation. I was almost tempted
to get another triac and put the thing back together.

I "salvaged" a bunch of stuff like:

1) The control panel -- it's powered from 120 volts. I might be able to
find some use for it. My older girl said she might enjoy having it so I
might find some way of getting it powered and not be a shock hazard to her.

2) The contactors (both nameplated for 15 amps.

3) The MAIN transformer, high voltage diode, and voltage doubling
capacitor.

4) The magnitron tube (still has the heat sink but I want to see
how they focused the magnetic.

5) The permanent magnets (two flat "donuts". The magnetic
circuit was completed by some heavy gauge sheet steel. I might keep them
and play with the effects on conductors dropped between the poles.

6) Some power hardware including a combo fuse block and male "slip on"
terminal block.

7) The MANY microswitches (safety, door switch, temperature probe
sensor)

8) The overheat sensor on the microwave cooling fins (NC).

9) The thermal fuse that detected whether the contents of the over
were on fire!

10) The 50 rpm "stirrer motor"

11) The cooling fan.

For now, I will just move the stuff to a "junk box."

If anyone has any projects to suggest, let me know.

Anyway, I figured some of your would be amused by the whole thing.

The transformer is a nice hunk of iron for when you want to
wind your own transformer. Many microwave transformers
have one side intentionally shorted to ground, so be aware
of that if you intend to use it unmodified.

Ed
 
R

Rich256

John Gilmer said:
I decided to take it apart "just to see."

Some comments on what I found:

I too have a "junk box" full of similar parts. Never know when you might
have a use for them. If you are into Ham radio it seems that there is
always something coming up that needs a part your just threw away.

A friend had a microwave that was arcing. He bought a new one and was
throwing out the old one. Out of curiousity I took it home to see what it
might be. When I opened it up I found a fried moth in the waveguide.
Cleaned it out, put the oven back together and it worked like new.
 
K

Kirk Johnson

Anal Probe said:
Leave it to a fuckin' retard to suggest littering and environmental
pollution as a solution to a problem. Sure yer last name isn't
"Lamerson".

I do it with all my old TV's, Fridges Etc. They only usually sit there for
a few weeks, then someone comes and cleans them up.

What's wrong with that ?

Kirk Johnson - "Stretchin it to the max since 1977."
http://www.thethirteenthstep.com/images/goatse-pwned.jpg
 
K

Kirk Johnson

NunYa Bidness said:
I guess it depends on what part of what state you live in. For
on... it's YOUR fucking job to "clean it up". As in not ever having
done something so fucking stupid to begin with.

The same factors must also play into the quality of education you
get/got, as you should already know the answer to your own question.

I have seen "front yards" where folks still have old wringer washers
and old cars still junked out.

Pretty lame. Pretty lame too that someone that claims to have an
education in electronics sees nothing wrong with littering based on
the assumption that someone else will take care of it for you.

You couldn't be more fucking retarded. Get a clue, Lamerson.

I don't live in a state. Maybe you are the retarded one to place
a post thinking that everyone lives in the same country as Yourself.

FWIW it was a troll post trying to put across the amount of
TV's & other consumables electrical items that are just dumped
in my country.

Gonna bite again ?

Kirk Johnson - "Stretchin it to the max since 1977."
http://www.thethirteenthstep.com/images/goatse-pwned.jpg
 
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Ben Miller

John Gilmer said:
If anyone has any projects to suggest, let me know.
John

Be careful with that transformer. Several amps at 2-3kV is potentially
lethal.

Ben Miller
 
A

Aratzio

Yes, you do. You live in the sate of total retardedness.

Hiya, NumbYa!
Sew how due won become an expert in total retardedness? I am sure your
expertise in being an expert on everything will give you special
insight into total retardedness.

Oh and while you are at it genius boi:
:Meaning of RETARDEDNESS
:
:No matching definitions were found in Hyperdictionary.com.

What exactly does that word mean? I looked in several dictionaries,
hard bound and online and none of them could provide me with insight
as to what you meant to write. You being a self described genius I
cannot imagine you would just make up words and then try to use these
faux words as insults.
Look, asswipe, just because you and the rest of your retarded
friends toss shit out of your house onto the roadside, doesn't make it
an intelligent act, dipshit.

Nice froth, NumbYa but you can do better. Now wipe off the monitor and
try again.
There is an essential part of your
fucked up personality missing. Particularly if you claim to be
intelligent, or educated as it were.

My, my, for a urinal cake cleaner you do have delusions of grandeur.
It's called common sense.


Yet YOU still participated in doing it yourself. Even MORE retarded.

More retarded than someone that attempts to control all conversation
and cross posts to an alt newsgroup?
You're retarded.

How ironic.
Being a retarded troll doesn't change the FACT that
you are retarded.

Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical
argument.

Claiming to have deliberately posted a troll, is even MORE retarded.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
You should have jumped off a cliff in '77, idiot.

Non sequitur.


--

Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker - May, 2005

Hammer of Thor - July, 2005

David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus) on 10-22-2005
Message-Id: <[email protected]>

"But it is not isolated AUK has a massive impact the rest of usenet."

http://www.tweaknet.info/aratzio.html
 
K

Kirk Johnson

Alan Bidness said:
Yes, you do. You live in the sate of total retardedness.


Look, asswipe, just because you and the rest of your retarded
friends toss shit out of your house onto the roadside, doesn't make it
an intelligent act, dipshit. There is an essential part of your
fucked up personality missing. Particularly if you claim to be
intelligent, or educated as it were.

It's called common sense.


Yet YOU still participated in doing it yourself. Even MORE retarded.

You're retarded. Being a retarded troll doesn't change the FACT that
you are retarded. Claiming to have deliberately posted a troll, is
even MORE retarded.

You should have jumped off a cliff in '77, idiot.

Nipple Tweek!

Kirk Johnson - "Stretchin it to the max since 1977."
http://www.thethirteenthstep.com/images/goatse-pwned.jpg
 
K

Kirk Johnson

are you into ladyboys nunn ?

Aratzio said:
Hiya, NumbYa!
Sew how due won become an expert in total retardedness? I am sure your
expertise in being an expert on everything will give you special
insight into total retardedness.

Oh and while you are at it genius boi:
:Meaning of RETARDEDNESS
:
:No matching definitions were found in Hyperdictionary.com.

What exactly does that word mean? I looked in several dictionaries,
hard bound and online and none of them could provide me with insight
as to what you meant to write. You being a self described genius I
cannot imagine you would just make up words and then try to use these
faux words as insults.


Nice froth, NumbYa but you can do better. Now wipe off the monitor and
try again.


My, my, for a urinal cake cleaner you do have delusions of grandeur.


More retarded than someone that attempts to control all conversation
and cross posts to an alt newsgroup?


How ironic.


Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical
argument.



Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.


Non sequitur.


--

Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker - May, 2005

Hammer of Thor - July, 2005

David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus) on 10-22-2005
Message-Id: <[email protected]>

"But it is not isolated AUK has a massive impact the rest of usenet."

http://www.tweaknet.info/aratzio.html
 
J

John Gilmer

Be careful with that transformer. Several amps at 2-3kV is potentially
lethal.

Yep!

The cap (used in the voltage doubler) is reated for 1400 VAC!
 
C

Chadwick Stone©

X-No-Archive: YES
NunYa Bidness has offered into testimony
[email protected]
Yes, you do. You live in the sate of total retardedness.


Look, asswipe, just because you and the rest of your retarded
friends toss shit out of your house onto the roadside, doesn't make it
an intelligent act, dipshit. There is an essential part of your
fucked up personality missing. Particularly if you claim to be
intelligent, or educated as it were.

It's called common sense.


Yet YOU still participated in doing it yourself. Even MORE retarded.

You're retarded. Being a retarded troll doesn't change the FACT that
you are retarded. Claiming to have deliberately posted a troll, is
even MORE retarded.

You should have jumped off a cliff in '77, idiot.

What an intellectual exchange you have chosen to join. This explains why
your worthless E-1 ass can't stay out of the brig long enough to mop out the
head.

--

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ChadwickStone at Gmail dot com
Usenet's most helpful netizen
Hammer of Thor, March 2005
 
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Roy Q.T.

Schhhhht schhtttttt...so much statik

can any read me ////??? is this radio picking up my speech... dangit !

copy dat....

[Title] / an enclose the magnetrons magnetic output throu a torroid n
to yor New stereo and when it acts up increase the Vol and draw it with
the Bass & Treble control atached to the torroyd,and Welcome 2 the Idiot
Squad


Dahhh wat r we takin it apart again 4

Roy's Injun cuzin Joseph from the plains jackt his internetface
box.idid. just to tell ya how we donit. okay

C:-o Joe

Out !
 
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