Super Cold Spray - for wart removal?

[Rich Grise]

For myself, I'm more a fan of backwoods medicine - plentiful moonshine,
and a bullet (or a really big bottle of particularly bad moonshine) for
incurable cases.

Unfortunately, it was the "moonshine" that caused it, or so they tell me.
But since they installed that pigtail, I haven't had a problem.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

If you're going to off yourself for what seem like good reasons at the
time, at least research it enough not to leave yourself alive but with
horrible liver damage, brain damage, blindness etc.

Oh, if you want to end it all, (and really want to end it, not just
transmit some lame neurotic cry for help ;-) ), just go to a welding
supplies store and get a tank of argon, and feed it at about 5 l/min into
a plastic bag tied loosely around your neck. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

My funniest experience was with #2 daughter, 1 year old at the time,
now 41...

I heard strange giggling from her bedroom... walked in to find her
emptying her diaper by grabbing a handful, then slinging it onto the
wall :-(

LOL! I guess now we know Hoo Flung Poo! ;-P

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

If you ever have a serious strep throat, or a life-threatening uninary
infection, you might reconsider. It's incredible what a penicillin
shot in the butt, or a jug of Cipro, can do in a few hours. And a
compound fracture isn't the sort of thing you want to treat at home.

John

Shhh... it's one of those Darwin things.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

That was funny? Your'e a sick puppy, Jim ;-)

That's when Jim learned to sling shit all the time and add ;-)

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

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Has anyone had success using electronics type Super Cold Spray for
plantar wart removal? Do not try it based upon this posting since it
could be dangerous. I only want to hear from folks who have already
tried. I'm thinking of using a thick plastic slab with a countersunk
hole in it through which to apply the cold spray, the idea being to
pool the cold spray in the hold and let it bubble away for some time.
I did a quick prelim test and the plastic does appear to insulate the
cold from the surrounding skin. Another approach might be to soak a
q-tip in the cold spray while it's touching the wart. I imagine that a
number of repeated treatments over several days, each increasing in
intensity, might be appropriate. Do not try it based upon this posting
since it could be dangerous. I only want to hear from folks who have
already tried. Thanks

I had two done this way, when I was a kid. One was on the back of my
hand, and it just dried up and fell off. The other was on a knuckle,
and it turned into a big callus that I've now had for 30 years. I'd
have been much better off just waiting for it to go away, which they
eventually do.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

Like Phil Hobbs, I've got a scar on the back of my pinky finger some
35 years later. Can't recall if that freeze session worked either. I
had those burned, frozen, Compound-W'd (which spread them when I didn't
keep it up), applied chalk (works, dries & kills the skin
layer-by-layer, takes months, cracks, bleeds, hurts like hell)...

Regarding the original question, it seems Dr. Scholl's sells
freeze-spray for warts as "Freeze Away Common & Plantar Wart Remover,
by Dr. Scholl's":

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:...506+"common+wart"+burn&hl=en&client=firefox-a


For the more adventurous, an electronic approach:
http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Misc/wart_zap/wart_zapper.htm

Warts themselves are caused by several of the 80-some known varieties
of human papillomavirus. AIUI, the virus evades your immune system by
confining itself to the upper layers of skin, where your immune
surveillance isn't as vigilant. The trick appears to be a combination
of removing the infected material, and inflaming it (thus exposing it
to your immune system for attack).

Cool thing about John's needle-poking method is that it leaves a lot
of healthy tissue-matrix. A family member tried it, tells me it sure
hurt in the doing, but I saw it heal much faster than wholesale killing
/ ablation methods that wind up digging out a flesh-crater.

Reading, it seems that the salicylic acid treatment (e.g. Compound-W)
is as effective or more than freezing, but takes as long as 3-4 months.
OTOH, the medical literature describes freezing as a regimen to be
repeated at 3-week intervals, not a one-shot cure.

Way back when--as a kid--I had a few frozen, unsuccessfully. I hated
them so much I tried biting them off my knee, until my Dad (a doctor)
asked "You bit them? Do you want to get 'em on your tongue?"

Hell no !

That stopped me biting them, but those particular devils soon
resolved on their own.

More info: http://dermnetnz.org/viral/viral-warts.html

Best,
James Arthur

 

[John Larkin]

Cool thing about John's needle-poking method is that it leaves a lot
of healthy tissue-matrix. A family member tried it, tells me it sure
hurt in the doing, but I saw it heal much faster than wholesale killing
/ ablation methods that wind up digging out a flesh-crater.

Our young friend Dan told me about that one.

John

 

[David Collier]

Has anyone had success using electronics type Super Cold Spray for
plantar wart removal?

yup, it worked fine on mine

I used kaptan ( spelling? ) tape, to make a mask, and sprayed it. The
mask was just enough to keep the rest of my hand from burning, though it
wasn't pleasant. Has to be non-wettable. whatever you use.

Repeat daily for a while, and no further problem.

David Collier

email can be sent to Dexdyne.com , under name from_usenet@

 

[David Collier]

I'd
have been much better off just waiting for it to go away, which they
eventually do.

tell that to my 83-year-old dad, he's had his as long as I can remember

David Collier

email can be sent to Dexdyne.com , under name from_usenet@

 

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tell that to my 83-year-old dad, he's had his as long as I can remember

My reading says Phil's right, they _usually_ go away within two
years. Still, I've know a gal of like vintage to your dad who's had
hers forever too, and would like to be rid of them.

That makes two people in my life with the same problem, plus my
remembered childhood delight in killing mine(*), hence my interest. I
may even try the Wart Zapper project I linked to earlier in the
thread--I've got one volunteer lined up.

Cheers,
James Arthur

(* I catch and release spiders, and tolerate just about anything that
doesn't compete with me for food, but there are two things I will go
out of my way to kill: fire ants**, and, it seems these days, warts.)

(**They've taken over the South. Large mounds spring up every few
meters in open fields, and there's no getting rid of them. One day, on
a friend's farm, just standing on the lawn, minding my own business, a
swarm engulfed my foot & leg, leaving me with perhaps a hundred
flaming, festering pustules. They acted not in self-defense mind
you--this I would understand and abide--but I was nowhere near their
mound. They were hunting, and this was casus belli.

After much experimentation, having arrived at a suitable
environmentally-friendly formula, I thereupon cleared a several-acre
field of a hundred or so mounds, which, by fruit of my wrath, remained
clear for many years thereafter.)

 

[Kryten]

For the more adventurous, an electronic approach:
http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Misc/wart_zap/wart_zapper.htm

My bullshit sensor jumped into the red warning zone when I read the word
'resonance' in the explanation of how it worked.

AIUI, the virus evades your immune system by
confining itself to the upper layers of skin, where your immune
surveillance isn't as vigilant. The trick appears to be a combination
of removing the infected material, and inflaming it (thus exposing it
to your immune system for attack).

Well, in that case the wart zapper might simply be causing a local
irritation, stimulating the immune system to investigate the source. The
mumbo jumbo about finding the best frequencies and voltages might just be
about finding the values that the human body is most sensitive to.

I wonder if it works on moles?

A friend of mine was relaxing in the garden when he noticed a large ugly
mole on his knee. He told me the best way to get rid of such moles is to
give them a good sharp whack with a rolled up newspaper. They invariably
scamper off down the lawn.




said

 

[John Larkin]

My bullshit sensor jumped into the red warning zone when I read the word
'resonance' in the explanation of how it worked.


Well, in that case the wart zapper might simply be causing a local
irritation, stimulating the immune system to investigate the source. The
mumbo jumbo about finding the best frequencies and voltages might just be
about finding the values that the human body is most sensitive to.

I wonder if it works on moles?

A friend of mine was relaxing in the garden when he noticed a large ugly
mole on his knee. He told me the best way to get rid of such moles is to
give them a good sharp whack with a rolled up newspaper. They invariably
scamper off down the lawn.

I think you're supposed to hit them with a Bible.

John

 

[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

I think you're supposed to hit them with a Bible.

No, you're thinking of Moslems.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

 

[Jim Thompson]

My bullshit sensor jumped into the red warning zone when I read the word
'resonance' in the explanation of how it worked.


Well, in that case the wart zapper might simply be causing a local
irritation, stimulating the immune system to investigate the source. The
mumbo jumbo about finding the best frequencies and voltages might just be
about finding the values that the human body is most sensitive to.

I wonder if it works on moles?

A friend of mine was relaxing in the garden when he noticed a large ugly
mole on his knee. He told me the best way to get rid of such moles is to
give them a good sharp whack with a rolled up newspaper. They invariably
scamper off down the lawn.




said

If you really had moles in your garden you wouldn't find it amusing.

I had a situation like in a Bill Murray movie...

Flooded their burrows, the back yard collapsed

Applied gasoline and match... they were back the next day.

Finally knocked the population down by standing by the burrow with a
snow shovel... whack !-)

Finished them off with bubble gum ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[Kryten]

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:11:28 GMT, "Kryten"

I think you're supposed to hit them with a Bible.

Some of those are quite big, and could damage your knee.

If you are vindictive, you could just stun it then bury it alive.

 

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My bullshit sensor jumped into the red warning zone when I read the word
'resonance' in the explanation of how it worked.


Well, in that case the wart zapper might simply be causing a local
irritation, stimulating the immune system to investigate the source. The
mumbo jumbo about finding the best frequencies and voltages might just be
about finding the values that the human body is most sensitive to.

I certainly don't accept their explanation of the mechanism. I
simply figured any effect that 'zapper' might have would be the result
of concentrating a small amount of energy onto a VERY small spot,
destroying the underlying tissue. Since the users reports that the
damn thing hurts, I found this explanation plausible. Basically, a
low-energy, controlled form of burning.

I wonder if it works on moles?

A friend of mine was relaxing in the garden when he noticed a large ugly
mole on his knee. He told me the best way to get rid of such moles is to
give them a good sharp whack with a rolled up newspaper. They invariably
scamper off down the lawn.

Good one!

Grins,
James Arthur

 

[Rich Grise]

I certainly don't accept their explanation of the mechanism. I
simply figured any effect that 'zapper' might have would be the result
of concentrating a small amount of energy onto a VERY small spot,
destroying the underlying tissue. Since the users reports that the
damn thing hurts, I found this explanation plausible. Basically, a
low-energy, controlled form of burning.

Yup. I once used a soldering iron on one, and it hasn't come back.

Cheers!
Rich

 

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Oh, if you want to end it all, (and really want to end it, not just
transmit some lame neurotic cry for help ;-) ), just go to a welding
supplies store and get a tank of argon, and feed it at about 5 l/min into
a plastic bag tied loosely around your neck. ;-)

Why must you find such expensive solutions to simple engineering
problems? The bag by itself will do the trick.

 

[Richard Henry]

Why must you find such expensive solutions to simple engineering
problems? The bag by itself will do the trick.

A bag tied loosely about the neck might look like an accident. Going to all
the trouble to hook up a tank of argon (wouldn't helium work just as well?)
removes all doubt.

 

[James T. White]

Why must you find such expensive solutions to simple engineering
problems? The bag by itself will do the trick.

Nitrogen would work just as well and is cheaper.