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RJ

Anyone have any info/schematic for automotive (12V) sequential flasher
circuit. Looking for something that will run a string of bulbs left to
right, right to left, and center out. 55W halogen bulbs. Also known as a
"Traffic Advisor" and is mounted on the rear of a cruiser. Thanks any and
all.............

Dick J
Gahanna Police Dept, Ohio
 
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Jim Thompson

Anyone have any info/schematic for automotive (12V) sequential flasher
circuit. Looking for something that will run a string of bulbs left to
right, right to left, and center out. 55W halogen bulbs. Also known as a
"Traffic Advisor" and is mounted on the rear of a cruiser. Thanks any and
all.............

Dick J
Gahanna Police Dept, Ohio

http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/Pat-3544962.pdf

...Jim Thompson
 
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Fred Bloggs

Anyone have any info/schematic for automotive (12V) sequential flasher
circuit. Looking for something that will run a string of bulbs left to
right, right to left, and center out. 55W halogen bulbs. Also known as a
"Traffic Advisor" and is mounted on the rear of a cruiser. Thanks any and
all.............

How many bulbs? Eight? Chances are it will be cheaper to buy a
programmable power supply new or used. The electronics and packaging
thereof are non-trivial mainly due to the required protection against
vehicle electrical system transients, bulb inrush currents, and
automotive environment extremes of temperature, shock, and vibration.
The product needs to be rugged IOW.
 
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Jim Thompson

Anyone have any info/schematic for automotive (12V) sequential flasher
circuit. Looking for something that will run a string of bulbs left to
right, right to left, and center out. 55W halogen bulbs. Also known as a
"Traffic Advisor" and is mounted on the rear of a cruiser. Thanks any and
all.............

Dick J
Gahanna Police Dept, Ohio

I would think the Gahanna (Ohio) Police Dept could just go out and buy
the unit.

That state has more speed radar units than dogs have fleas. I think
that must be Ohio's primary source of (tax) income.

When I have to make the run from Columbus to Huntington to visit my
father I DON'T drive 50... I generally double it.

So it keeps me on my toes watching for those clowns ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Just another example of the USPTO's inability to deal with banality.

Thompson's circuitry wasn't novel when he applied for the patent,
but by confusing the examiner(s) they decided that the safe way to
go was to issue the patent and, more importantly, collect the fees.

Jim doesn't care. By his own admission, he's "filthy rich", and according
to his previous post, he's somewhat of a scofflaw, which is ironic, given
his admitted nazi tendencies.

Thanks!
Rich
 
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Don Foreman

How many bulbs? Eight? Chances are it will be cheaper to buy a
programmable power supply new or used. The electronics and packaging
thereof are non-trivial mainly due to the required protection against
vehicle electrical system transients, bulb inrush currents, and
automotive environment extremes of temperature, shock, and vibration.
The product needs to be rugged IOW.

Good point! Many here could devise a circuit using MOSFET lamp
drivers and a PIC microcontroller -- but who would build it and
package it? It's hard to save any money building a few of
something that is commercially available.
 
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ehsjr

RJ said:
Anyone have any info/schematic for automotive (12V) sequential flasher
circuit. Looking for something that will run a string of bulbs left to
right, right to left, and center out. 55W halogen bulbs. Also known as a
"Traffic Advisor" and is mounted on the rear of a cruiser. Thanks any and
all.............

Dick J
Gahanna Police Dept, Ohio

Your call - but if it's for your job, I would think a commercial
unit would be what you want. But if you enjoy experimenting, you
might like the circuit described and diagramed below.

There are diagrams below the text.

4 decade counters, 9 bulbs: (can be more than 9 bulbs
with additional decade counters)
The "master_counter" 1 one counts 0 to 2 and resets at 3, so it
has 3 active outputs: 0, then 1, then 2. All decade
counters will have only 1 output active at any given time.
Bulbs will be wired to drivers, and the drivers will be
connected to decade outputs 1 through 9 through diodes.

The master_counter will sequentialy enable counter0,
counter1 and counter2 when master_counter_0, 1 and 2
go active. The master_counter will be incremented
when counter0 or 1 reaches 9, or when counter2 reaches 5

Counter0 will sequentially light bulbs
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 yielding this ==> direction

Counter1 will sequentially light bulbs
9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 yielding this <== direction

counter2 will light first bulb 5, then in pairs:
6&4, 7&3, 2&8, 1&9 yielding this <= => direction

When counter2 increments to 5, it will reset itself and increment
the mastercounter

A typical decade counter circuit is shown here:
http://www.doctronics.co.uk/4017.htm

Your drivers can be n channel mosfets, wired source to
ground, drain to bulb, bulb to plus. The gates of
each mosfet will connect to 3 diodes, with the banded
end of the diode connected to the gate and the other end
connected to the 0, or 1 or 2 ... or 8 line of the
decade counter.

---------------
| mastercounter | DR = driver, detail shown below
---------------
0 1 2
| | |
--- | |
| C |0-------->|---------------------Dr1---Bulb1--+--- +V
| o |1-------->|---------------------+ |
| u |2-------->|-------------------+ | |
| n |3-------->|-----------------+ | Dr2---Bulb2--+
| t |4-------->|---------------+ | +-+ |
| e |5-------->|-------------+ | | | |
| r |6-------->|-----------+ | | | Dr3---Bulb3--+
| |7-------->|---------+ | | | +---+ |
| 1 |8-------->|-------+ | | | | | |
--- | | | | | | | Dr4---Bulb4--+
| | | | | | | +-----+ |
+---+ | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Dr5---Bulb5--+
| | | | | | +-------+ |
| | | | | | | |
| | | | | | Dr6---Bulb6--+
| | | | | +---------+ |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | Dr7---Bulb7--+
| | | | +-+---------+ |
| | | | | | |
| | | | | Dr8---Bulb8--+
| | | +-+-----------+ |
| | | | | | |
| --- | | | Dr9---Bulb9--+
| | C |0-------->|---+ |
| | o |1-------->|-----+
| | u |2-------->|--- To Dr7
| | n |3-------->|--- To Dr6
| | t |4-------->|--- To Dr5
| | e |5-------->|--- To Dr4
| | r |6-------->|--- To Dr3
| | |7-------->|--- To Dr2
| | 2 |8-------->|--- To Dr1
| --- |
| 9 |
| | |
+---------+ ---
| | C |0-+->|--- To Dr5
| | |
| | o |1-+->|--- To Dr6
| | | +->|--- To Dr4
| | |
| | u |2-+->|--- To Dr7
| | | +->|--- To Dr3
| | |
| | n |3-+->|--- To Dr8
| | | +->|--- To Dr2
| | |
| | t |4-+->|--- To Dr9
| | | +->|--- To Dr1
| | |
| | e |5---+
| | r |6 |
| | 0 |7 |
| | |8 |
| --- |
| |
+---------------------+


Driver detail:
V+
|
Bulb
|
||---+ D
| ||
G ----- ||---+ S
|
Gnd

Counter enabling via the master counter & power on reset:

Counter0 Counter1 Counter2
Enable Enable Enable
Pin13 Pin13 Pin13
| | |
+-+ +-+ +-+
-------- | | | | | |
|Master |0-+->|---------------------+ | | |
|Counter | +->|-----------------------------+ |
| | | | | | |
| |1-+->|-----------+ | | |
| | +->|-------------------------------+
| | | | |
| |2-+->|-------------+ |
| | +->|-----------------------+
| |
| |3---+ +--->|--- To pin 15 Counter0
-------- | +--->|--- To pin 15 Counter1
Reset | +--->|--- To pin 15 Counter2
Pin15 | |
| | | 10 uF
+---------+---|<---+---||------- +V
|
[15K]
|
Gnd

Clocking:
The clock shown at
http://www.doctronics.co.uk/4017.htm
will connect to Counters 0, 1 and 2.
It will not connect to the mastercounter.

The mastercounter clock pin - pin 14 - will connect
to 3 diodes (non-banded end). The other end of the diodes
will connect to output 9 (pin 11) of counter0 and counter1,
and to outpiut 5 (pin 1) of counter2.

Ed
 
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ehsjr

ehsjr said:
Your call - but if it's for your job, I would think a commercial
unit would be what you want. But if you enjoy experimenting, you
might like the circuit described and diagramed below.

There are diagrams below the text.


Driver detail:
V+
|
Bulb
|
||---+ D
| ||
G ----- ||---+ S
|
Gnd

Ed

Grumble. Forgot 2 resistors - added below:

Driver detail:
V+
|
Bulb
|
||---+ D
G | ||
---[1.5K]---+--- ||---+ S
| |
[100K] |
| |
+----------+
Gnd
 
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