Scientist burns saltwater!!!!!

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Also the difficulty of seeing ahydrogenflame is overlooked (no pun
intended)...

"Purehydrogen-oxygen flames are nearly invisible to the naked eye, as
illustrated by the faintness of flame from the main Space Shuttle
engines (as opposed to the easily visible flames from the shuttle
boosters). Thus it is difficult to visually detect if ahydrogenleak
is burning."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen

Michael

Isn't the real question here whether one can make hydrogen from this
at an acceptable price? Secondly what about the applications not yet
tested with this like say ammonia mixed with salt? Ammonia should be
able to produce three time what water does right? Or what about a salt
hydrogen peroxide mix or gallium/aluminum/salt/water mix??????


urvile43528

 

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Also the difficulty of seeing ahydrogenflame is overlooked (no pun
intended)...

"Purehydrogen-oxygen flames are nearly invisible to the naked eye, as
illustrated by the faintness of flame from the main Space Shuttle
engines (as opposed to the easily visible flames from the shuttle
boosters). Thus it is difficult to visually detect if ahydrogenleak
is burning."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen

Michael

Isn't the real question here whether one can make hydrogen from this
at an acceptable price? Secondly what about the applications not yet
tested with this like say ammonia mixed with salt? Ammonia should be
able to produce three time what water does right? Or what about a salt
hydrogen peroxide mix or gallium/aluminum/salt/water mix??????


urvile43528

 

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Although, I vaguely remember from college chem lab classes that a bit
of wire dipped in potassium or sodium solutions, then placed in a
Bunsen burner, will burn with bright colors due to the sodium or
potassium.

Oh, joy, I've got my "Qualitative Analysis and the Properties of Ions
in Aqueous Solutions" book by Slowinski and Masterton in front of me.


Sodium ion: In a Bunsen flame sodium salts give off a very strong
yellow light. Even traces of Na+ are active in this regard...

Potassium salts: flame test: potassium salts (chloride or nitrate
salts) emit a violet light in the Bunsen flame.

I wonder if salt from the body of water in question got into the
burning zone?

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Isn't the real question here whether one can make hydrogen from this
at an acceptable price? Secondly what about the applications not yet
tested with this like say ammonia mixed with salt? Ammonia should be
able to produce three time what water does right? Or what about a salt
hydrogen peroxide mix or gallium/aluminum/salt/water mix??????


urvile43528

 

[Don Klipstein]

Also the difficulty of seeing ahydrogenflame is overlooked (no pun
intended)...

"Purehydrogen-oxygen flames are nearly invisible to the naked eye, as
illustrated by the faintness of flame from the main Space Shuttle
engines (as opposed to the easily visible flames from the shuttle
boosters). Thus it is difficult to visually detect if a hydrogen leak
is burning."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen

That is for an oxyhydrogen flame being dimly visible in broad daylight
on a sunny day. In same lighting conditions, a methanol fire is only
visible via "heat ripples" - a methanol-fueled race car can crash and
be engulfed by invisible flames!

Methanol flames are easily visible (though dim and blue) under ordinary
bright classroom and laboratory lighting, which is almost 2 orders of
magnitude dimmer than "direct sunlight". I have found the same to be true
of blue-glowing air-hydrogen flames.

- Don Klipstein ([email protected])

 

[Don Lancaster]

Isn't the real question here whether one can make hydrogen from this
at an acceptable price?

urvile43528

No.
There is not the slightest possibility of that happening.

Detailed analysis at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu07.asp#09-08-07

Background at http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf



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