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vincent.thiernesse

Hello,

I wish to buy a SAD1024.

Could anyone help me ?

Regards

Vincent
 
M

Michael Black

vincent.thiernesse" ([email protected]) said:
Hello,

I wish to buy a SAD1024.

Could anyone help me ?
Click to expand...
We're talking about the bucket brigade delay line?

Those are something like thirty years old. Unless you're repairing
something, there's very little good reason to be using such an old
device, when surely newer and better things have come along. I don't
know, but I suspect it's been a long time since it was manufacturered;
if so then you'll be looking for old stock and that may drive up prices.

Just because one can find a schematic for something doesn't mean
it's the best choice.

Michael
 
V

vincent.thiernesse

Michael Black said:
We're talking about the bucket brigade delay line?

Those are something like thirty years old. Unless you're repairing
something, there's very little good reason to be using such an old
device, when surely newer and better things have come along. I don't
know, but I suspect it's been a long time since it was manufacturered;
if so then you'll be looking for old stock and that may drive up prices.
Click to expand...

I need audio bandpass and 2 ms delay that's why I was looking for that
device.

SAD1024 is billed 83 euros in France...
Just because one can find a schematic for something doesn't mean
it's the best choice.
Click to expand...

Yes indeed but it was my own schematic.
 
R

Ross Herbert

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:36:00 +0100, "vincent.thiernesse"

:
:"Michael Black" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
::> "vincent.thiernesse" ([email protected]) writes:
:> > Hello,
:> >
:> > I wish to buy a SAD1024.
:> >
:> > Could anyone help me ?
:> >
:> We're talking about the bucket brigade delay line?
:>
:> Those are something like thirty years old. Unless you're repairing
:> something, there's very little good reason to be using such an old
:> device, when surely newer and better things have come along. I don't
:> know, but I suspect it's been a long time since it was manufacturered;
:> if so then you'll be looking for old stock and that may drive up prices.
:
:I need audio bandpass and 2 ms delay that's why I was looking for that
:device.
:
:SAD1024 is billed 83 euros in France...
:
:> Just because one can find a schematic for something doesn't mean
:> it's the best choice.
:
:Yes indeed but it was my own schematic.
:


I find it difficult to understand why anyone would design a new system based on
a long obsolete device such as the SAD1024. Nevertheless, it seems that others
have done a similar thing http://lupinesystems.com/guitar/analog/

As suggested in that article you can search for the device on Ebay where they
are still not cheap at around US$20 but that's far better than Eur83.
 
V

vincent.thiernesse

Ross Herbert said:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:36:00 +0100, "vincent.thiernesse"

:
:"Michael Black" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
::> "vincent.thiernesse" ([email protected]) writes:
:> > Hello,
:> >
:> > I wish to buy a SAD1024.
:> >
:> > Could anyone help me ?
:> >
:> We're talking about the bucket brigade delay line?
:>
:> Those are something like thirty years old. Unless you're repairing
:> something, there's very little good reason to be using such an old
:> device, when surely newer and better things have come along. I don't
:> know, but I suspect it's been a long time since it was manufacturered;
:> if so then you'll be looking for old stock and that may drive up prices.
:
:I need audio bandpass and 2 ms delay that's why I was looking for that
:device.
:
:SAD1024 is billed 83 euros in France...
:
:> Just because one can find a schematic for something doesn't mean
:> it's the best choice.
:
:Yes indeed but it was my own schematic.
:


I find it difficult to understand why anyone would design a new system based on
a long obsolete device such as the SAD1024. Nevertheless, it seems that others
have done a similar thing http://lupinesystems.com/guitar/analog/
Click to expand...

Hello, If you know a component that does the same ,newer ,cheaper ,and with
better characteristics, please tell me.

As suggested in that article you can search for the device on Ebay where they
are still not cheap at around US$20 but that's far better than Eur83.
Click to expand...

None on ebay for the moment.
 
R

Ross Herbert

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:45:57 +0100, "vincent.thiernesse"

:
:"Ross Herbert" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
::> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:36:00 +0100, "vincent.thiernesse"
:>
:> :
:> :"Michael Black" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
:> ::> :> "vincent.thiernesse" ([email protected]) writes:
:> :> > Hello,
:> :> >
:> :> > I wish to buy a SAD1024.
:> :> >
:> :> > Could anyone help me ?
:> :> >
:> :> We're talking about the bucket brigade delay line?
:> :>
:> :> Those are something like thirty years old. Unless you're repairing
:> :> something, there's very little good reason to be using such an old
:> :> device, when surely newer and better things have come along. I don't
:> :> know, but I suspect it's been a long time since it was manufacturered;
:> :> if so then you'll be looking for old stock and that may drive up
:prices.
:> :
:> :I need audio bandpass and 2 ms delay that's why I was looking for that
:> :device.
:> :
:> :SAD1024 is billed 83 euros in France...
:> :
:> :> Just because one can find a schematic for something doesn't mean
:> :> it's the best choice.
:> :
:> :Yes indeed but it was my own schematic.
:> :
:>
:>
:> I find it difficult to understand why anyone would design a new system
:based on
:> a long obsolete device such as the SAD1024. Nevertheless, it seems that
:eek:thers
:> have done a similar thing http://lupinesystems.com/guitar/analog/
:
:Hello, If you know a component that does the same ,newer ,cheaper ,and with
:better characteristics, please tell me.

Hello.... Just because there is nothing else which will do the job cheaper and
with better characteristics is not a good reason to design a system which relies
upon a long obsolete device. If you absolutely must do this then you are just
going to have to pay the going price for a scarce and increasingly less
available device. It's that simple, so don't blame me for pointing out the
obvious.

:
:
:>
:> As suggested in that article you can search for the device on Ebay where
:they
:> are still not cheap at around US$20 but that's far better than Eur83.
:
:None on ebay for the moment.
:

So you are going to have to wait until there are or pay Eur83.
 
B

Bob Woodward

Hello, If you know a component that does the same ,newer ,cheaper ,and with
better characteristics, please tell me.
Click to expand...

PANASONIC:
MN3000
MN3004
MN3005
MN3006
MN3008
MN3009
MN3011
MN3012
MN3101 ( CLOCK GENERATOR )
MN3204
MN3205
MN3206
MN3207
MN3208
MN3209
MN3210
MN3214
MN3304
MN3308

Find datasheet, including application-notes,
including PCB lay-out, here:

http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/panasonic/70/


Robert
 
P

Pierre-François

How many do you need?
I'm sure I have fews in my "tiroir"! At least one or two...
I used this device to delay cardio signals in my young years when I started
my electronic career in 1076!

pf
 
V

vincent.thiernesse

Ross Herbert said:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:45:57 +0100, "vincent.thiernesse"

:
:"Ross Herbert" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
::> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:36:00 +0100, "vincent.thiernesse"
:>
:> :
:> :"Michael Black" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
:> ::> :> "vincent.thiernesse" ([email protected]) writes:
:> :> > Hello,
:> :> >
:> :> > I wish to buy a SAD1024.
:> :> >
:> :> > Could anyone help me ?
:> :> >
:> :> We're talking about the bucket brigade delay line?
:> :>
:> :> Those are something like thirty years old. Unless you're repairing
:> :> something, there's very little good reason to be using such an old
:> :> device, when surely newer and better things have come along. I don't
:> :> know, but I suspect it's been a long time since it was manufacturered;
:> :> if so then you'll be looking for old stock and that may drive up
:prices.
:> :
:> :I need audio bandpass and 2 ms delay that's why I was looking for that
:> :device.
:> :
:> :SAD1024 is billed 83 euros in France...
:> :
:> :> Just because one can find a schematic for something doesn't mean
:> :> it's the best choice.
:> :
:> :Yes indeed but it was my own schematic.
:> :
:>
:>
:> I find it difficult to understand why anyone would design a new system
:based on
:> a long obsolete device such as the SAD1024. Nevertheless, it seems that
:eek:thers
:> have done a similar thing http://lupinesystems.com/guitar/analog/
:
:Hello, If you know a component that does the same ,newer ,cheaper ,and with
:better characteristics, please tell me.

Hello.... Just because there is nothing else which will do the job cheaper and
with better characteristics is not a good reason to design a system which relies
upon a long obsolete device. If you absolutely must do this then you are just
going to have to pay the going price for a scarce and increasingly less
available device. It's that simple, so don't blame me for pointing out the
obvious.
Click to expand...

I won't blame you. I'll just blame the world not to produce such a new
device.
:
:
:>
:> As suggested in that article you can search for the device on Ebay where
:they
:> are still not cheap at around US$20 but that's far better than Eur83.
:
:None on ebay for the moment.
:

So you are going to have to wait until there are or pay Eur83.
Click to expand...

I am going to buy Pierre-François' devices.
 
V

vincent.thiernesse

Bob Woodward said:
PANASONIC:
MN3000
MN3004
MN3005
MN3006
MN3008
MN3009
MN3011
MN3012
MN3101 ( CLOCK GENERATOR )
MN3204
MN3205
MN3206
MN3207
MN3208
MN3209
MN3210
MN3214
MN3304
MN3308
Click to expand...

Thanks but too big delay and too low bandpass for my purpose.

Vincent
 
P

Pierre-François

Hi Vincent,

You'll NOT buy because they are GRATOS!

Cheers
pf
 
M

Michael A. Terrell

vincent.thiernesse said:
I won't blame you. I'll just blame the world not to produce such a new
device.
Click to expand...


It's not the world's fault that the part you want was made with an
obsolete process, or that there isn't enough demand to make a modern
replacement. It has been replaced with A to D and D to A converters, a
microprocessor, RAM, and some software.


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