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pull down the heat detector wheres the wire

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Nick Markowitz Jr.

was pulling out an older burg fire system today and when i went to remove
some heat detectors which were attached to it found several which had no
wiring to them..
looks like the fire alarm experts strike again in Pa.
 
was pulling out an older burg fire system today and when i went to remove
some heat detectors which were attached to it found several which had no
wiring to them..
looks like the fire alarm experts strike again in Pa.

Reminds me of when we install dummy cameras among the real ones. How's
the fire gunna know which heats are real? :)

Roger W.
 
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Nick Markowitz Jr.

I have found smoke detectors and sprinkler heads just stuck up and not
hooked up as well and they were not spy cameras
 
S

ssokoly

No, but once in a while I can just about poke my left eye.
Roger W.
It's a wireless heat detector, literally. I had the same thing happen
years ago in an high class condo complex. Went into the living room just
away from the kitchen pulled down the smoke detector and found no wires
hooked to it no wires anywhere. Was able to snake a 4 wire from the
kitchen heat.
 
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Jim

It's a wireless heat detector, literally. I had the same thing happen
years ago in an high class condo complex. Went into the living room just
away from the kitchen pulled down the smoke detector and found no wires
hooked to it no wires anywhere. Was able to snake a 4 wire from the
kitchen heat.- Hide quoted text -

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Many, many years ago, there was a company who would go door to door
residential, to install just fire alarm systems for a very low price.
If the person said yes, they'd start right then and install a local
heat detection fire alarm with a few of the old bi-metal 135 degree
heat sensors, a single zone panel and a bell. Installed in the easiest
places they could get a wire to. But, in those cases where a detector
was needed or the customer asked for it, and they couldn't get a wire
there, they'd just screw a detector to the ceiling, collect their
cash and leave. They were around for a number of years, but back then
there were no regulations of any sort. It wasn't until they were
gone, that it began to be discovered, what they'd done. Actually, the
guy died, because I remember that there wasn't any way anyone could
take any action against them.
 
F

FIRETEK

Many, many years ago, there was a company who would go door to door
residential, to install just fire alarm systems for a very low price.
If the person said yes, they'd start right then and install a local
heat detection fire alarm with a few of the old bi-metal 135 degree
heat sensors, a single zone panel and a bell. Installed in the easiest
places they could get a wire to. But, in those cases where a detector
was needed or the customer asked for it, and they couldn't get a wire
there, they'd just screw a detector to the ceiling, collect their
cash and leave. They were around for a number of years, but back then
there were no regulations of any sort. It wasn't until they were
gone, that it began to be discovered, what they'd done. Actually, the
guy died, because I remember that there wasn't any way anyone could
take any action against them.



Shit man. That ain't nuthin'. Howz about a company that performs a
Verification Test (to a National Standard) on a new fire alarm system when
the system is showing a "ground fault". It get's dumber. They issue an
Appendix "C" (equivalent to a Certificate of Compliance).

Or even "better"... An Edwards 8500 fire alarm system with two 12 volt
4.5AH batteries as the primary backup? The sucker draws 1.4 Amps in standby
and the batteries supposed to provide supervisory power for 24 hours. The
panels been tagged "OK" for the last three years by "qualified" ASTTBC
certified technicians.

I see dumb things every day but what this one resident manager did topped it
all. The green "AC on" light on his panel wasn't illuminated. Rather than
call for service (on a Saturday), this nin-com-poop decides to run an
extension cord to the nearest AC outlet, opens the panel and figures on
tying the AC to (what he thinks) is the main power connection. He plugs in
the cord and there's suddenly a lot of smoke and FIRE. Cooked off the
common control and about 40 bells (he wired the 110 to the bell circuit of
his Mircom 790).

Regards,
Frank
 
J

Jim

Shit man.  That ain't nuthin'.  Howz about a company that performs a
Verification Test (to a National Standard) on a new fire alarm system when
the system is showing a "ground fault".  It get's dumber.  They issuean
Appendix "C" (equivalent to a Certificate of Compliance).

Or even "better"...  An Edwards 8500 fire alarm system with two 12 volt
4.5AH batteries as the primary backup?  The sucker draws 1.4 Amps in standby
and the batteries supposed to provide supervisory power for 24 hours.  The
panels been tagged "OK" for the last three years by "qualified" ASTTBC
certified technicians.

I see dumb things every day but what this one resident manager did toppedit
all.  The green "AC on" light on his panel wasn't illuminated.  Rather than
call for service (on a Saturday), this nin-com-poop decides to run an
extension cord to the nearest AC outlet, opens the panel and figures on
tying the AC to (what he thinks) is the main power connection.  He plugs in
the cord and there's suddenly a lot of smoke and FIRE.  Cooked off the
common control and about 40 bells (he wired the 110 to the bell circuit of
his Mircom 790).

Regards,
Frank

Amazing.

What was his response when you showed up?
 
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