Programmable IR LED Flasher Circuit -- How to Build?

[Frithiof Andreas Jensen]

Here's the reply I got, via private email (after the asshole wrote
"I want no part of your perverse little world."):

A Narcissist, surely! Full of themselves and totally loose it whenever
confronted.

 

[Frithiof Andreas Jensen]

I have no idea what your background is, but I just cringe when every
solution to a problem is a microcontroller.

That is because human time is so much dearer than machine time is - there is
not much point in spending time on clever things, the hardware is just too
cheap.

As a mixed-mode chip
designer, it is required to know how to build simple logic. I just
wonder where the next generation will come if everyone throws a uP at
the problem.

Nah - next generation will throw a genetic circuit at the problem and evolve
it.

 

[Donald]

I have no idea what your background is, but I just cringe when every
solution to a problem is a microcontroller. As a mixed-mode chip
designer, it is required to know how to build simple logic. I just
wonder where the next generation will come if everyone throws a uP at
the problem.

Please share with us any "mixed-mode chips" in a 20 pin or smaller
package. ( 8 pin is the target here )

Please share with us any "mixed-mode chips" that can be produced in a
small shop or at home.

I would like to agree with you, but cost and ease of use will always
point to a microcontroller.

donald

 

[[email protected]]

I don't like dealing with these loons in private, so I'll reply here
in the open:

Better yet. You know where I am. Come see me.

 

[John Woodgate]

Please share with us any "mixed-mode chips" that can be produced in a
small shop or at home.

Oven chips. They are flash-fried before sale and then you bake them.
That's mixed-mode.

I just thought I'd get in before Genome.

 

[John Fields]

Better yet. You know where I am. Come see me.

---
To what end?

You seem to think that I think that you're an adversary worth
getting physical about.

You're not.

You're only here because you're looking for intellectual property
which you don't want to pay for, but which you want to take credit
for.

In other words, you're nothing more than a common thief.

 

[[email protected]]

Please share with us any "mixed-mode chips" in a 20 pin or smaller
package. ( 8 pin is the target here )

There are thousands of mixed mode chips in 20pins or smaller.

Please share with us any "mixed-mode chips" that can be produced in a
small shop or at home.

Ah, now that is different. As I said, my worry is that the skill set
will be lost.

By the way, you could make your own chips:
http://www.mosis.org/

Then there are gate arrays and eplds.

 

[Don Foreman]

---
Here's the reply I got, via private email (after the asshole wrote
"I want no part of your perverse little world."):


<<BEGIN QUOTE>>
I see now why you were such a smartass. You were afraid. You were
so concerned that someone was "cheating" and was going to get
something free from you that you completely missed the point and ran
your mouth. FYI, it's nothing more than a personal project with the
added benefits of:

1) saving a trivial amount of money though that's not really an
issue for me since I control millions

He thinks engineers are arrogant? WOW!

 

[Donald]

Donald wrote:


There are thousands of mixed mode chips in 20pins or smaller.

Ok, This is true.

Ah, now that is different. As I said, my worry is that the skill set
will be lost.

By the way, you could make your own chips:
http://www.mosis.org/

Looks interesting. Maybe I can add this to my skill set.

donald

 

[[email protected]]

---
To what end?

You seem to think that I think that you're an adversary worth
getting physical about. You're not.

Translation: What the **** have I gotten myself into?

Calm down johnny. I'd refrain from smacking the shit out of you for
being an asshole (even though it would be entirely deserved) because
you'd be the kind of person to whine to the police even though you
instigated the entire thing. Besides, I don't think there would even
be a need to get physical because you simply wouldn't speak to me in
person like you've done here. There would be no "last word syndrome"
or threats. If you want to challenge me, then you bring all the tools
in your toolbox and we'll see who wins. Your business partners may be
intimidated by your strong talk and self-proclaimed smarts, but
unfortunately for you, I'm not. Save that shit for your boyfriends at
work because I'm quite frankly not impressed by you.

You're only here

Nope!

because you're looking for intellectual property

Yep.

which you don't want to pay for

Yep.

, but which you want to take credit

for.

Nope.

Why the **** would I pay for something if someone's willing to give it
to me for free knowing that I'm not going to take their design and sell
it for my own gain. Should I hire a prick like you to design it for me
and pay some exorbatant fee? I don't think so. You're absolutely
incorrect about taking credit for things johnny fuckhead and I've told
you that before. Talk about insecurity. In my business, we don't do
shit like that, because there's much more at stake than money. So,
once again, take those "big bucks" and shove them right up your ass.

In other words, you're nothing more than a common thief.

Nope. Simply wrong again, but {yawn} we've been through this before.
I have neither the need nor the desire to steal, especially from the
likes of you. The fact is - you're nothing more than an insecure boob.

 

[Don Foreman]

Translation: What the **** have I gotten myself into?

Calm down johnny. I'd refrain from smacking the shit out of you for
being an asshole (even though it would be entirely deserved) because
you'd be the kind of person to whine to the police even though you
instigated the entire thing. Besides, I don't think there would even
be a need to get physical because you simply wouldn't speak to me in
person like you've done here. There would be no "last word syndrome"
or threats. If you want to challenge me, then you bring all the tools
in your toolbox and we'll see who wins. Your business partners may be
intimidated by your strong talk and self-proclaimed smarts, but
unfortunately for you, I'm not. Save that shit for your boyfriends at
work because I'm quite frankly not impressed by you.


Nope!

because you're looking for intellectual property

Yep.


Yep.

, but which you want to take credit

Nope.

Why the **** would I pay for something if someone's willing to give it
to me for free knowing that I'm not going to take their design and sell
it for my own gain. Should I hire a prick like you to design it for me
and pay some exorbatant fee? I don't think so. You're absolutely
incorrect about taking credit for things johnny fuckhead and I've told
you that before. Talk about insecurity. In my business, we don't do
shit like that, because there's much more at stake than money. So,
once again, take those "big bucks" and shove them right up your ass.


Nope. Simply wrong again, but {yawn} we've been through this before.
I have neither the need nor the desire to steal, especially from the
likes of you. The fact is - you're nothing more than an insecure boob.

Son, you've been given everything you need short of a schematic and
parts list. Please apply your excess energy to devise the flasher of
your liking ... and take your tough guy behavior elsewhere. Maybe go
smack the shit out of some data sheets, hoooaahhh! One round TSSOP14,
lock and load, you know. You gonna let a little pissant bit of silicon
defeat ya? Or use some of the millions you control to just buy the
damned things.

 

[Don Foreman]

On 12 Sep 2006 11:37:57 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

Possibly in a bad sit, GI. We did not arm you and train you so you
could threaten us, and we will not tolerate such behavior. If my
watchdog threatens my neighbor I will destroy the dog forthwith.
Friendly guidance and counsel: pick out what you can use from
responses you get, ignore what you can't use and STFU.

And yes, I'd get them on your ass in a minute. That's what they're
there for, isn't it, to keep bullies like you at bay?

No, John. Contrary to popular opinion and the logos on their cars,
police do not protect and serve. Police don't do anything other than
patrol and occasionally direct traffic until a crime has been
committed. However, the Army is another story. It exists to protect
and serve America and Americans. Americans must not and will not
tolerate threats from the very forces we arm and train. No member of
the armed forces may claim that he or she was "merely acting as an
individual" in a particular situation. Whether or not in uniform in a
particular instance, they are always subject to UCMJ (uniform code of
military justice). The U.S. Army does not condone bad behavior.

CG's (commanding generals) do not tolerate embarrassment by those in
their command, and those subject to UCMJ have NO civil rights. If a
soldier commits a civil crime, he will be dealt with under UCMJ. Even
if he didn't commit a civil crime, if he becomes a discredit to his
unit and command he will find himself reassigned to scut duty in some
armpit of the world very shortly thereafter.

The place to lodge your complaint would be with the CG of Fort Bragg,
letters also to congressmen. CG's don't appreciate negative attention
from congressmen one bit, not at all. Lots of shit gets overlooked in
a TO (theater of operations) but CG's in CONUS have zero tolerance
for such irritations. It would be dealt with decisively and
effectively.

 

[[email protected]]

Ok, This is true.


Looks interesting. Maybe I can add this to my skill set.

donald

In theory you could as there are open source programs for mask layout.
A tad expensive though to make a chip. I haven't used Mosis in decades
and never on my dime. In the dark ages, they step many chips on one
wafer to keep the cost down. The tooling generated is thus worthless
for production. However, if you dreamed up some cool chip and proved
the design, getting it fabbed is a much safer proposition given the
Mosis silicon.

In less dark ages, there was direct write on silicon with electron
beam. Damn slow, but no tooling required. The technology still exists,
though I don't know if anyone takes it seriously:
http://www.easic.com/index.php?p=faq

You could start selling your own chips, then get dissed in this
newsgroup for not delivering. ;-)

 

[John Fields]

Possibly in a bad sit, GI. We did not arm you and train you so you
could threaten us, and we will not tolerate such behavior. If my
watchdog threatens my neighbor I will destroy the dog forthwith.
Friendly guidance and counsel: pick out what you can use from
responses you get, ignore what you can't use and STFU.

No, John. Contrary to popular opinion and the logos on their cars,
police do not protect and serve. Police don't do anything other than
patrol and occasionally direct traffic until a crime has been
committed. However, the Army is another story. It exists to protect
and serve America and Americans. Americans must not and will not
tolerate threats from the very forces we arm and train. No member of
the armed forces may claim that he or she was "merely acting as an
individual" in a particular situation. Whether or not in uniform in a
particular instance, they are always subject to UCMJ (uniform code of
military justice). The U.S. Army does not condone bad behavior.

CG's (commanding generals) do not tolerate embarrassment by those in
their command, and those subject to UCMJ have NO civil rights. If a
soldier commits a civil crime, he will be dealt with under UCMJ. Even
if he didn't commit a civil crime, if he becomes a discredit to his
unit and command he will find himself reassigned to scut duty in some
armpit of the world very shortly thereafter.

The place to lodge your complaint would be with the CG of Fort Bragg,
letters also to congressmen. CG's don't appreciate negative attention
from congressmen one bit, not at all. Lots of shit gets overlooked in
a TO (theater of operations) but CG's in CONUS have zero tolerance
for such irritations. It would be dealt with decisively and
effectively.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

In theory you could as there are open source programs for mask layout.
A tad expensive though to make a chip. I haven't used Mosis in decades
and never on my dime. In the dark ages, they step many chips on one
wafer to keep the cost down. The tooling generated is thus worthless
for production. However, if you dreamed up some cool chip and proved
the design, getting it fabbed is a much safer proposition given the
Mosis silicon.

<snip>

IIRC, for a production run of a relatively low-tech chip you're
looking at about the cost of a house, so it's actually doable by a
small team or even an individual with moderate resources. But you'd
better have at least one good customer to start, and not too many
mistakes.

You could start selling your own chips, then get dissed in this
newsgroup for not delivering. ;-)

Be sure to call your company something that inspires confidence, like,
oh, "Minim".


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[John Woodgate]

Be sure to call your company something that inspires confidence, like,
oh, "Minim".

Musical notes are a fruitful field in this context:

Semibreve
Crotchet (perhaps not!)
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Semiquaver....