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I'm trying to fix this electric kettle, (it looks less than 10 yrs old
maybe about 5 years old) for a friend. Not an 'electronics repair' I
know, but I don't know any good 'white goods' repair groups, maybe
someone could point me in the right direction....

Apparently it got left on and boiled dry. Now, when you try to use it,
the power switch neon is lit but no heat comes. it stays like that
indefinitely.

I measured the element (in circuit) and got a reading of some 6 ohms.
no idea if that's good or bad.
my gut feeling is that there's a thermal protector gone o/c.
I 'm tempted just to say junk it and get another as I really don't
want to spend (=waste!) much time on it...:-/

any thoughts?
TIA
 
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Sjouke Burry

b said:
I'm trying to fix this electric kettle, (it looks less than 10 yrs old
maybe about 5 years old) for a friend. Not an 'electronics repair' I
know, but I don't know any good 'white goods' repair groups, maybe
someone could point me in the right direction....

Apparently it got left on and boiled dry. Now, when you try to use it,
the power switch neon is lit but no heat comes. it stays like that
indefinitely.

I measured the element (in circuit) and got a reading of some 6 ohms.
no idea if that's good or bad.
my gut feeling is that there's a thermal protector gone o/c.
I 'm tempted just to say junk it and get another as I really don't
want to spend (=waste!) much time on it...:-/

any thoughts?
TIA
Somewhere in the circuit should be a small component .5 inch long,
..1 or .2 inch width, a small cylinder with two wires attached.
Thats a termal fuse, witch breaks when becoming to hot.
Most are color coded, and you should get a replacement of the same
temperature range.
If you have a shop nearby for household repair components,
(iceboxes,washing machines,mixers etc) you should be able to buy
one there.
Take the old one with you to the shop.
 
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Arfa Daily

b said:
I'm trying to fix this electric kettle, (it looks less than 10 yrs old
maybe about 5 years old) for a friend. Not an 'electronics repair' I
know, but I don't know any good 'white goods' repair groups, maybe
someone could point me in the right direction....

Apparently it got left on and boiled dry. Now, when you try to use it,
the power switch neon is lit but no heat comes. it stays like that
indefinitely.

I measured the element (in circuit) and got a reading of some 6 ohms.
no idea if that's good or bad.
my gut feeling is that there's a thermal protector gone o/c.
I 'm tempted just to say junk it and get another as I really don't
want to spend (=waste!) much time on it...:-/

any thoughts?
TIA

Shouldn't be hard to follow the element wiring back thru' the boil-o-stat to
the connector, via any thermal breaker that may be in there. Lots of
domestic items like this have a wire ended thermal fuse fitted. It's usually
a silver metal tube perhaps 4mm diameter and 10mm length

like http://www.nteinc.com/specs/8000to8999/pdf/TCOs.pdf

There is a small water heater in my wife's cafe that has a small leak from
the water tank. If it gets accidentally left on over the weekend, all of the
water leaks out, and it effectively 'boils dry'. This results in the thermal
fuse opening. In this particular heater, it is pushed up the inside of a
metal tube that is inside the tank, so any similar fuse in your kettle, may
be likewise 'hidden'.

Arfa
 
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Shouldn't be hard to follow the element wiring back thru' the boil-o-stat to
the connector, via any thermal breaker that may be in there. Lots of
domestic items like this have a wire ended thermal fuse fitted. It's usually
a silver metal tube perhaps 4mm diameter and 10mm length

thanks folks,
there is a central plastic area which houses all the connectors, it
sits on the base with the 230v line. at the moment it hides a few
things, I will try and dismantle it further to trace the lines.
-B
 
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b

thanks folks,
there is a central plastic area which houses all the connectors, it
sits on the base with the 230v line. at the moment it hides a few
things, I will try and dismantle it further to trace the lines.
-B

Got it working. Below the assembly there were some strange contact
assemblies with springy metal strips, and one of these had a piece of
plastic popped out in it breaking contact. It's impossible to really
explain the way it works, and unfortunately my girlfriend is away on a
trip with the digitial camera so you'll just have to take my word for
it!

thanks again
-B
 
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