PCB Layout and simulation using Tina 7?

[Paul E. Schoen]

I purchased a low end simulation program from www.Tina.com (DesignSoft), and
it seems to work pretty well, especially for a $30 package.

I have been doing my major electrical and electronic designs with PADS-PCB
and PADS-Logic, from Mentor Graphics, but they do not offer simulation
(except maybe as a multi-thousand dollar option, and they have instituted a
limited licensing scheme with their new software so it becomes nonfunctional
after about 5 years unless you stay on their support, which costs about
$750/year.

Recently I revisited the Tina website and found they have a new version 7.x
design suite which includes schematic design, simulation, PCB design,
autorouting, and even a 3-D PCB viewer, for about $900. I have downloaded
the demo and it seems OK, although there are some annoying problems, and it
does not have the range of features I have become used to with PADS
products.

I would like to know if anyone has tried this product, as I am considering
purchasing it for some of my smaller designs, especially those that involve
linear circuitry that lends itself to simulation. If the product will evolve
into a more full-featured package, I will consider using it for major
projects as well, especially if I run into problems with the PADS licensing
scheme. That problem is currently being discussed on the listserver.pads.com
(talk) forum.

I am also open to recommendations for other design suites. Quite a while ago
I evaluated Eagle and Electronics Workbench, and I also looked at Protel. My
first schematic program was Futurenet (ca.1985), which I still use
occasionally for old design maintenance, and I also bought something called
Project-PCB (ca.1989).

Thanks for any feedback. I'll post my results as I continue to evaluate the
demo, and let you know if I purchase the full version.

A limited, but not crippled, version is available on the www.ti.com website.
I originally heard about the simulator at a TI seminar, where they praised
its virtues for analog design.

Paul E. Schoen
www.pstech-inc.com


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Paul E. Schoen, President
P S Technology, Inc.
715 Warren Road
Cockeysville, MD 21030-2824
(410) 667-4889
www.pstech-inc.com

 

[Leon]

Have a look at Pulsonix:

http://www.pulsonix.com

It's very easy to use and support is excellent.

 

[Leon]

Have a look at Pulsonix:

http://www.pulsonix.com

It's very easy to use and support is excellent.

Leon

 

[Ian Bell]

I purchased a low end simulation program from www.Tina.com (DesignSoft),
and it seems to work pretty well, especially for a $30 package.

I have been doing my major electrical and electronic designs with PADS-PCB
and PADS-Logic, from Mentor Graphics, but they do not offer simulation
(except maybe as a multi-thousand dollar option, and they have instituted
a limited licensing scheme with their new software so it becomes
nonfunctional after about 5 years unless you stay on their support, which
costs about $750/year.

Recently I revisited the Tina website and found they have a new version
7.x design suite which includes schematic design, simulation, PCB design,
autorouting, and even a 3-D PCB viewer, for about $900. I have downloaded
the demo and it seems OK, although there are some annoying problems, and
it does not have the range of features I have become used to with PADS
products.

I would like to know if anyone has tried this product, as I am considering
purchasing it for some of my smaller designs, especially those that
involve linear circuitry that lends itself to simulation. If the product
will evolve into a more full-featured package, I will consider using it
for major projects as well, especially if I run into problems with the
PADS licensing scheme. That problem is currently being discussed on the
listserver.pads.com (talk) forum.

I am also open to recommendations for other design suites. Quite a while
ago I evaluated Eagle and Electronics Workbench, and I also looked at
Protel. My first schematic program was Futurenet (ca.1985), which I still
use occasionally for old design maintenance, and I also bought something
called Project-PCB (ca.1989).

For simulation you cannot beat switcherCAD and its free:

http://www.linear.com/company/software.jsp

For PCB layout and schemetic capture try Kicad which you cane find at:

http://www.lis.inpg.fr/realise_au_lis/kicad/index.html

Ian