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Chuck Harris

Jim Douglas wrote:
....I have been refused
employment due to age so I'm sure folks with cancer, kids with bad sickness,
high blood pressure, etc would keep some companies from hiring you!

Shouldn't a company be able to have a reasonable expectation that their new
hires will be physically capable of doing the job? Companies aren't welfare
institutions.

-Chuck
 
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Spehro Pefhany

This is not the future, this is now. I am in the IT field and I am alarmed
at what information is available.

I recently saw a company had told it's employees to "Quit Smoking" or be
fired, they were going to use information from physicians to assure
compliance and on-site tests! I believe no one has the right to tell anyone
if they should smoke or not, now he does have the right to limit smoke
breaks during the day. What's next with this guy overweight, high-blood
pressure?

I sent an email to the owner of the company indicating that I would assist
financially with any lawsuit brought against him. This is one step away
from employers having access to your medical records, for example I have a
broken back, would a company refuse employment? I have been refused
employment due to age so I'm sure folks with cancer, kids with bad sickness,
high blood pressure, etc would keep some companies from hiring you!

Are there laws against companies wanting to see your medical records
as part of the hiring process? I'd want to see the maintenance records
before leasing an expensive piece of equipment.

It's refreshing to look at employment ads in places like Hong Kong
where they don't burden business with all this socialist stuff-
"wanted 23-25 year old attractive female office girl". Why not just
ask for what you want?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Robert

John Woodgate said:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Philosophizer


What, then, are you the reflection of that is inside me? Can I have it
removed? (;-)

"Reality is what trips you when you walk around with your eyes closed."

Robert
 
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Rich The Philosophizer

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Philosophizer


What, then, are you the reflection of that is inside me? Can I have it
removed? (;-)

Well, I am merely a guest in your venue. :)

But, as far as identifying in yourself what has attracted me to your
reality, that's your prerogative. And it can be a delightful adventure.
:)

Thanks,
Rich

for further information, please visit http://www.godchannel.com
 
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John Woodgate

(in said:
"Reality is what trips you when you walk around with your eyes closed."
True, but Rich is a bit too far away for me to trip over. Unless he's
achieved omnipresence, of course. (;-)
 
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Robert

True, but Rich is a bit too far away for me to trip over. Unless he's
achieved omnipresence, of course. (;-)

Just one of the standard rebuttals to Solipsism.

Unless you're a masochist. ;-)

Robert
 
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Jim Douglas

You don't get it, this is a step away from your don't look good enough,
smoking, drinking off hours, and high blood pressure have nothing to do with
a great number of jobs today! Of course if you have no arms you can't get a
warehouse person expected to drive a fork lift! But if you were a smoker and
a fork-lift driver and could do the job it should not!
 
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Spehro Pefhany

I agree, but it's rather cynical for HK chinese to come to NZ and then
scream blue bloody murder about being discriminated against because of
their race!!

Barry Lennox

;-) Maybe that's why they left.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Barry Lennox

Are there laws against companies wanting to see your medical records
as part of the hiring process? I'd want to see the maintenance records
before leasing an expensive piece of equipment.

It's refreshing to look at employment ads in places like Hong Kong
where they don't burden business with all this socialist stuff-
"wanted 23-25 year old attractive female office girl". Why not just
ask for what you want?

I agree, but it's rather cynical for HK chinese to come to NZ and then
scream blue bloody murder about being discriminated against because of
their race!!

Barry Lennox
 
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:-: Ghost Chip :-:

Rich The Philosophizer said:
Everything that you perceive to be outside of yourself is
actually a
reflection of something inside yourself. The only way to know
what's
around you is through your perceptions, and all of your
perceptions
are inside you:
http://www.godchannel.com/reality.html

Cheers!
Rich

for further information, please visit
http://www.godchannel.com
Oh NO! From the way the world looks, I must really be screwed
up royal. What do I do now?
GC
 
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Robert

Jim Douglas said:
You don't get it, this is a step away from your don't look good enough,
smoking, drinking off hours, and high blood pressure have nothing to do
with
a great number of jobs today! Of course if you have no arms you can't get
a
warehouse person expected to drive a fork lift! But if you were a smoker
and
a fork-lift driver and could do the job it should not!

A step back to more like it used to be. Drinking and smoking could get you
fired on moral grounds in a lot of places in the US. Though that was
enforced more on Women than Men. They also could get fired for wearing pants
and a lot of other reasons.

Robert
 
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Chuck Harris

Jim said:
You don't get it, this is a step away from your don't look good enough,
smoking, drinking off hours, and high blood pressure have nothing to do with
a great number of jobs today! Of course if you have no arms you can't get a
warehouse person expected to drive a fork lift! But if you were a smoker and
a fork-lift driver and could do the job it should not!

I repeat: Shouldn't a company be able to have a *reasonable* expectation
that their new hires will be physically capable of doing the job? Companies
aren't welfare institutions.

Not having enough experience to do a job is also "a step away from your(sic) don't look
good enough"

-Chuck Harris
 
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Jim Douglas

Because we were supposed to leave this stuff behind years ago.


Spehro Pefhany said:
Are there laws against companies wanting to see your medical records
as part of the hiring process? I'd want to see the maintenance records
before leasing an expensive piece of equipment.

It's refreshing to look at employment ads in places like Hong Kong
where they don't burden business with all this socialist stuff-
"wanted 23-25 year old attractive female office girl". Why not just
ask for what you want?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
http://www.speff.com
 
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Robert

"Supposed" is an item of faith.

And not all (most?) people share that faith.

Robert
 
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