off topic: Internet Explorer 7

[Meat Plow]

I put it on my machine, largely because MS are not carrying out any further
maintenance support of IE6, which will leave it ( even ) wide ( er ) open to
abuse from those intent on getting into people's machines. I think it's
largely just a case of " If things don't change, they'll stay as they are ".
Yes, the layout looked a bit alien at first, but once I'd customised it a
bit to make it feel a bit more 'comfortable', I quickly forgot that it was
anything new. I actually shut the phishing filter off, because I felt that
it slowed things down a little on some sites. The multiple tabbed windows
are useful, as is the ability to put a whole series of open windows into a
single Favourite.

The machines that I have are very heavily used, and to date, I have had no
particular problems or issues with my IE7 installation.

Arfa

I read some Microsoft and generic help groups and the majority of IE7
posts are not so favorable as yours. Glad you're not having problems with
it though.

 

[AZ Nomad]

IE7 touches many different areas of your operating system. Best to make a
system restore point in XP before you install IE7. Then when tire of it
(you will) you can simply restore back to before you installed it.

System restore is usually is a fairly worthless feature. It only takes a backup
of the main registry file and a few files in the windows directory. If dynamic
link libraries (DLLs) for an appliaction (like ie7!) have changed then going to
to a previous registry will frequently damage a system beyond repair.

 

[Meat Plow]

System restore is usually is a fairly worthless feature. It only takes a backup
of the main registry file and a few files in the windows directory. If dynamic
link libraries (DLLs) for an appliaction (like ie7!) have changed then going to
to a previous registry will frequently damage a system beyond repair.

Well MSDN and MS Tech Net says otherwise

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa378870.aspx

System Restore is a last ditch effort before a reinstall and I've read
both good and bad about it. Having never used it myself I have no actual
experience. I keep a spare hard drive with an image of my operating system
and update the image whenever I install something major. And my data lives
on network storage so a catastrophic failure for me means a down time of
maybe 1/2 hour.

 

[Madness]

I read some Microsoft and generic help groups and the majority of IE7
posts are not so favorable as yours. Glad you're not having problems with
it though.

Yet another, question: Is anyone planning on upgrading to Vista? You do
so, you're gonna be stuck w/ IE7 anyhow. I plan (at least for the
foreseeable future) to stick w/ XP. Yeah, I stuck in IE7 and was quite
shocked at how much of rip it is off Firefox (least the first impression!).

 

[Meat Plow]

Yet another, question: Is anyone planning on upgrading to Vista? You do
so, you're gonna be stuck w/ IE7 anyhow. I plan (at least for the
foreseeable future) to stick w/ XP. Yeah, I stuck in IE7 and was quite
shocked at how much of rip it is off Firefox (least the first impression!).

Better then to upgrade IE6 to Firefox 2.0 I've been using Enigma
browser on and off which uses part of the IE6 engine. I really don't care
for tabbed browsing though. And I have no plans to upgrade to Vista. I use
Debian Linux (on my laptop) and XP both and am quite happy the way both
configure.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

The question is to upgrade or not to upgrade?

Yahoo mail seems to be pushing toward upgrading and Windows Update seems
to want to install IE7 but from what I hear the latest isn't always the
greatest.

Maybe a little bit off topic for this group but it seems that many of
the posters would probably have some experience with upgrading.

I just got a new computer, and it came with it. I do not like it, and I
am not going to install it on my other computers. Once again,
everything has been moved, and things I want to use are no longer there,
or working properly. Unfortunately, windows update only works with IE.


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Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[AZ Nomad]

Well MSDN and MS Tech Net says otherwise

and of course, microsoft would be the first to tell you if system restore
was ineffective. Wanna buy a bridge?

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa378870.aspx

That doesn't help if system file isn't in a monitored directory.

System Restore is a last ditch effort before a reinstall and I've read
both good and bad about it. Having never used it myself I have no actual
experience. I keep a spare hard drive with an image of my operating system

I do have direct experience especially with clients who tried it and ended
up with a system that no longer boots.

If a new version of software (like IE7!) puts a new version of its settings
in the registry, and you restore to a point where you have old settings in
the registry (IE7 still installed, but IE6 settings in the registry), you're
asking for serious problems.

It truly is a last ditch effort. I don't recomend using system restore on
any system that still boots. Use it from the F8 startup menu on a system
that doesn't boot as you have nothing to lose.

 

[Meat Plow]

and of course, microsoft would be the first to tell you if system restore
was ineffective. Wanna buy a bridge?

Yeh I wouldn't expect MS to know anything about their operating system.

That doesn't help if system file isn't in a monitored directory.

So the file now has to be in a monitored directory, I see.

I do have direct experience especially with clients who tried it and ended
up with a system that no longer boots.

If a new version of software (like IE7!) puts a new version of its settings
in the registry, and you restore to a point where you have old settings in
the registry (IE7 still installed, but IE6 settings in the registry), you're
asking for serious problems.

It truly is a last ditch effort.

As I mentioned.

Have a great day and I'm sorry that Microsoft upsets you so.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Have a great day and I'm sorry that Microsoft upsets you so.

If Microsoft was your local hospital . . . . . . .

 

[William R. Walsh]

Hi!

I put it on my machine, largely because MS are not carrying out any further
maintenance support of IE6, which will leave it ( even ) wide ( er ) open to
abuse from those intent on getting into people's machines.

Uhhmmm...I don't think that's quite correct. IE6 SP1 on supported versions
of Windows and IE6 SP2 on Windows XP are both still supported by security
updates. So is the version of IE6 that shipped with Windows Server 2003 SP1.
If there is a Windows XP SP3 or Server 2003 SP2, I'd hazard a guess that
they will maintain IE6 (possibly at the next SP version level) instead of
forcing an upgrade to 7.

The underlying architecture is said to be nowhere near as secure as that of
IE7. I don't know if I believe all of that. No doubt there have been
improvements, but I still believe we'll see IE7 coming down with security
problems more often than it should.

Glad to hear IE7 is working well for you. I do believe that Microsoft really
tried to make things better. The trouble is that they tried too hard on the
UI, not as much as they meant to on security, and it doesn't run on all of
the versions of Windows where it would still be quite widely used...no
Win98/Me support I can see and maybe agree with. Why Windows 2000 wasn't
included is beyond me.

William

 

[Michael Kennedy]

What you never use telnet or ftp? Many times when hacking or recovering
routers telnet is very useful, but I'm sure you'll have some smart ass
coment about that too.

 

[Luis Martino]

didn't they also drop FTP client?

Not exactly. Certainly IE7 seems to have problems to connect to certain
FTP servers, but I found that disabling "passive ftp" in "Tools" --->
"Internet Options" ---> "Advanced Options", restores IE7 connectivity
with ftp servers. I haven´t tested the TELNET capability, just because
I´m used to do TELNET from the command line in Windows XP.

I personally prefer Firefox over IE7, but the truth is that there are
some websites that will not work in anything except IE, so one must have
IE installed.

Also, I find quite interesting how as soon a new version of software is
out, everybody starts to say that "the new version is awful", "it
doesn´t work well", "I don´t like it" and so on... and the final outcome
is always the same: everyone ends using it.

 

[taharka]

How do,

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:44:33 +0100, Luis Martino wrote:

I personally prefer Firefox over IE7, but the truth is that there are
some websites that will not work in anything except IE, so one must have
IE installed.

If using Firefox on IE only sites, there is the "user agent switcher"
extension available from mozilla. Haven't come across an IE only site that
won't work with Firefox yet using this extension ;-)

taharka

Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.

 

[Roddy Meatstick..............]

I say upgrade, to Firefox 2.0.

And openSUSE 10.2

 

[Baron]

And openSUSE 10.2

Linux is the way to go !

 

[Arfa Daily]

Linux is the way to go !

But only if you have a beard, open toed sandles, own a Morris Minor, and
ride a bike to work ...

Sorry, I couldn't resist that !!

Arfa

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Linux is the way to go !

Only after you admit that you're not man enough to make windows work.


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida