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Nicole Chan

Hi,

I just moved into a home with ADT system, and I don't want it to be
monitored. I don't have the manual/code/model number for it. Is
there any way to find out the ADT model number? If it helps, it is a
2001 home. Can I program the keypad myself or do I need to have
someone else come in to do it?

TIA,
NC
 
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Frank Olson

Nicole Chan said:
Hi,

I just moved into a home with ADT system, and I don't want it to be
monitored. I don't have the manual/code/model number for it. Is
there any way to find out the ADT model number? If it helps, it is a
2001 home. Can I program the keypad myself or do I need to have
someone else come in to do it?

TIA,
NC

First of all you have to determine whether or not the system is purchased or
leased. More than likely it's the latter and ADT will want you to continue
with the service contract (which includes monitoring). Depending on where
the previous home-owner was in his lease it may be worth your while to buy
it out, and have ADT program it as a local system rather than have someone
come in to replace the equipment or purchase what you need online and do it
yourself. Chances are it's an Ademco product (probably a Vista 15 or 20).
You can try entering programming but you'll need access to the common
control and if it's leased equipment which ADT still owns you could be
opening more than just a "can of worms"... Give them a call, find out what
they want to convert it to a local system and get back to us. We'll be in a
better position to advise you of your next step after you talk to them.

--
Frank E. Olson
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Frank Olson

I've seen responses to posts like this run in all sorts of different
directions. I know RHC has a real anti-borg mentality, but even he wouldn't
counsel someone to ignore or break another company's legal contract
(something RLB does regularily). You and Mark represent the other end of
the spectrum. While views may differ, providing quality product & service
to the end-user is the ultimate goal. I suppose the same thing could be
said for RLB but for the fact that his agenda has a double purpose in this
forum... to steer people away from professionally run alarm
companies/central stations and utilize his own "unique" services while at
the same time bashing the industry and the honest efforts of the
professionals that are in it.

Now which is it?? Is top posting acceptable now?? :)

--
Frank E. Olson
http://www.alt-security-alarms.com
Free listings for qualified industry professionals, dealers & suppliers.
Please visit the unofficial web site to view FAQ and participant
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RH.Campbell

Frank, I expect you are correct in your statement that I have a real
anti-Borg mentality. I didn't start out that way in this business. I spent
most of my life in the bowels of a large corporation at the upper middle
management level, and came to appreciate how these large organizations
function (and in some cases don't function). When I left, and got into this
business full time, I really did look up to ADT in much the same way that
many consumers do. But then I became by default (through buy outs) a third
party ADT dealer, and it's been downhill all the way since then.

I do try to keep an open mind on most subjects that I know little about, or
situations where things are not always as clear as they might seem on the
surface. I try to follow the old saying..." never judge a man (or company),
until you've walked a mile in their shoes". But my personal experience with
ADT has been nothing but horrible...slow monitoring response, false
dispatches that have cost me money, difficulty for both myself and my
customers in connecting to the monitoring centrem, no test signals allowed,
no cancel codes recognized, non recognition of a third party account versus
one of their own, impolite response to my customers, and absolutely no voice
correspondence with their monitoring staff over the last seven years. I talk
to my main monitoring station almost daily - calls initiated by them; if ADT
ever called me on anything, I think I would faint from amazement..

It's definately a bias for sure, but one they deserve based on my personal
experience with them. Others may have experienced different situations and
may not feel this way. For example, I hear ADT is reputed to be a good
company in your area. But if anyone tells me they are hooked up to ADT here
in Ottawa, all I can think of to say is ..."my condolences".....I just don't
think consumers are getting their money's worth dealing with this company
(no matter how they initially chose to obtain their equipment ie: zero down
versus full price). I recognize that ADT is somewhat divided by customer
size...ie: corporate versus the dealer program in the residential market.
But much of my experience has been with their Montreal monitoring station,
which is the same for both parts of their organization.

I remain absolutely amazed that they are as big and successful as they
clearly are. Logic tells me that a company doesn't have that kind of staying
power and revenue generation capability unless they are doing things
correctly. But my personal experience runs counter to that in spades
!!...don't ask me why !

And it's not large company versus small company ! The third party monitoring
station I use is Security 24 Monitoring Network Ltd, here in Ottawa. Many
may not know that this station is owned by Protectron (P1), and has recently
been physically integrated into P1's monitoring centre. So by all accounts
this should result in a poorer quality of monitoring if we are to believe
all the bad things we hear about P1 ! But it hasn't so far. The only thing
that counts is results! However, if they do start to screw up, they'll hear
about it in spades from me !!!....AND right at the top !!

As for your other point, I would think it would always be the correct and
wisest thing to contact the original company when trying to change
suppliers. Sometimes, just contacting them will allow them to offer a better
price or fix your problem. Unless their service is bad, or their prices are
far out of line, I generally tell consumers it's probably best to stay with
your original installing company.

However, I AM doing a steady business in ADT takeovers. The first question
that is always asked is whether the original contract is still in force, and
who owns the equipment. If ADT owns the equipment...and / or their is a
contract is still in force, I don't touch it (I'm amazed that most customers
don't have a clue what their obligations are ! It just never seems to be
important until they have some sort of problem).

We just mark our calendars for three months prior to the contract
termination date as the date for our next conversation.....:))))

RHC
 
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Nicole Chan

First of all you have to determine whether or not the system is purchased or
leased. More than likely it's the latter and ADT will want you to continue

I called ADT, and the lady said the original owner is responsible for
the rest of the contract and not me.
with the service contract (which includes monitoring). Depending on where
the previous home-owner was in his lease it may be worth your while to buy
it out, and have ADT program it as a local system rather than have someone

The lady had no idea when I told her about having a standalone system.
I wish I know the code.

TIA,
NC
 
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Dr. Psycho

Frank Olson" said:
even he wouldn't
counsel someone to ignore or break another company's legal contract
(something RLB does regularily).

Is this accusation true? If so, this is an outrage! If RLB would
advocate such an unethical thing, I don't know where he would stop on
the spectrum of good and evil. Heaven forbid! Say it's not so.
Please someone tell me it's not true!

Dr. Psychcological Evaluation
 
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