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House Pre-wired with ADT: Question

A

Aegis

Stating that a major powerhouse (like it or not) WILL do ANYTHING. (I would
have put a "probably" in there...)

Sued for what?
 
darn .. yall get some systems that dont want monitoring let mee know .
..i need the work so bad right now :) Ill throw up 3 sirens and call it
a day ..!
 
C

Crash Gordon®

ah,,,gotcha.

"any of the big boys will "probably" escalate your monthly fees on a yearly basis"

better huh? :)
 
C

Crash Gordon®

my bad...i usually use 'adt' as a generic for the big guys.
i guess i probably most likely do

:)
 
C

Crash Gordon®

all of them do.

cant tell ya how many times i've tried explain the real-deal to people - ive given up.
 
R

R.H.Campbell

Kinda reminds me of that old expression....a fool and his money are soon
parted ! It's always amazing to see the differences between advertising on a
given issue and the reality of the true situation. I guess you have to
actually be in our business to appreciate the truth about certain
things.....

RHC

all of them do.

cant tell ya how many times i've tried explain the real-deal to people - ive
given up.
 
C

Crash Gordon®

it's not just our industry either.


R.H.Campbell said:
Kinda reminds me of that old expression....a fool and his money are soon
parted ! It's always amazing to see the differences between advertising on a
given issue and the reality of the true situation. I guess you have to
actually be in our business to appreciate the truth about certain
things.....

RHC

all of them do.

cant tell ya how many times i've tried explain the real-deal to people - ive
given up.
 
the latest one was the fire ..

the smoke detector went off, brinks called them and was like, you have
a smoke detector going off. Oh My Gawd yes, sais the client, we have a
smoke detector going off (all the time the siren has been screaming) ..

ok, ill call the fire dept, sais Brinks .. ok thanks sais the client
....

conclusion not on TV yet ...

meanwhile brinks just wasted the little valuable time the client needed
to get out of the home and to safety, and in doing so the client died
in the fire !! The client had a cell phone so they could have called
the fire dept themselves when they were outside and safe from hot
flaming ash!
 
M

Mark Leuck

brinks TV commercials crack me up .. do they really think people are
that dumb??

Not dumb but ignorant, I don't think I'd ever seen or knew how a security
system worked before I went into the trade, and I'm still looking for that
ADT system that puts 1's and 0's all around the house.
 
M

Mark Leuck

the latest one was the fire ..

the smoke detector went off, brinks called them and was like, you have
a smoke detector going off. Oh My Gawd yes, sais the client, we have a
smoke detector going off (all the time the siren has been screaming) ..

ok, ill call the fire dept, sais Brinks .. ok thanks sais the client
...

conclusion not on TV yet ...

meanwhile brinks just wasted the little valuable time the client needed
to get out of the home and to safety, and in doing so the client died
in the fire !! The client had a cell phone so they could have called
the fire dept themselves when they were outside and safe from hot
flaming ash!

Thats an absurd conclusion, are you suggesting Brinks dispatch the fire
department without making a call first? The customer doesn't have to sit
around a smoke filled home waiting for a phone call
 
hmmmm .... the FAKE conclusion - time was still wasted .. either way
you look at it ..its the dumbest commercial I have seen yet ...

Calling when a smoke detector goes off, is as absurb as calling for a
panic button - whats the point in having those things if the CS has to
call you first .. !!! You are already dead time as they call you ..??!
 
i DO understand where you are coming from a CS view .. im just noting
what an end user's view would be ..and moreover, i was noting how
stupid the commercial is ...

OK .. there is another one that shows the whole clients house as being
protected, with maybe a couple door switches and a motion or two ..
that one is pretty darn dumb also ... they forgot the windows and the
yard ... see they are saying they protect your entire home and family
... for ($so charge) per month .. doesnt say what they install!
 
i thought it was briks .. my bad ,, ignore my last email then! :)
Sorry dude .. but yes that was the one I was talking about ..full
protection of 0's and 1's .. he he ..
 
J

J. Sloud

Thats an absurd conclusion, are you suggesting Brinks dispatch the fire
department without making a call first?

It's really not absurd. If it was a commercial building, per NFPA 72,
they have to call the fire department first. Back to the whole false
alarm issue again ... cheap equipment, ignorant end-users, and bad
installations.
 
J

J. Sloud

Not dumb but ignorant, I don't think I'd ever seen or knew how a security
system worked before I went into the trade, and I'm still looking for that
ADT system that puts 1's and 0's all around the house.

The average consumer doesn't care how their security system works,
just like most of you don't care how the internet works - as long as
it does work. Most of ADT's residential commercials piss me off, but
if you think about the message - an invisible blanket of protection -
it isn't too far from what a properly designed system would do, albeit
in very simplistic terms. To the average consumer, anything more
technically correct would be a waste of advertising money, and all of
us reap the benefits from such advertising. The industry exposure to
the general public is worth putting up with ADT's 0's and 1's and with
Brinks average-white-guy, glass smashing burglars.
 
J

Joe

Mark said:
Not dumb but ignorant, I don't think I'd ever seen or knew how a security
system worked before I went into the trade, and I'm still looking for that
ADT system that puts 1's and 0's all around the house.
That's a special wall paper. For an extra fee....
But don't bother with the siding, too expensive and people keep stealing it.
 
C

Crash Gordon®

I haven't seen the one you're talking about. Brinks hasn't advertised out here lately. I think they're cyclical in they're advertising budget. We'll see them regularly for a while then they'll disappear for a year.

I haven't seen an ADT one for a few months either.
 
C

Crash Gordon®

<rant>
But what harms the whole industry is they create a percieved value = 0.
</rant>
 
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