Fully Variable Speed Control Unit for Lasko 2155A Window Fan

[Martin Levac]

Better buy a fire extinguisher, too.

Already covered.

 

[Martin Levac]

Virg, you're wasting your time. This is crosposted from
alt.home.repair which is full of trolls and dangerous idiots. Killfile
the loser.

Yes, I did crosspost in a.h.repair. Forgive me if I fucked up but I
thought that people who worked on their own homes would know a thing or
two about the subject. And if a.h.repair is full of idjits and trolls,
don't fucking blame me, I didn't put them there. And if you consider
yourself smart enough to know who's a moron and who's not, consider the
fact that there's just about as many moron electricians as there are
moron doctors, politicians and garbage collectors. If there's a loser
here to killfile, it ain't me.

Have a nice fucking day.

 

[Martin Levac]

I think the point is that you initially did not seem very receptive to
the suggestion that there is not a practical solution to your problem
given the constraints you placed on the solution. Pont could have
been made without calling you a troll though.

I think the point is that Evan initially did not give a **** about the
subject and decided then and there that it was useless to even try to
give me the information that I asked for. I've had a lot of experience
with smart asses who will simply not give proper advice and the only
advice they will give is "don't do it". Even is just one more smart ass.
Well, **** him.

 

[Martin Levac]

That's part of it. There is not a high demand. Theoretetically an
inverter design could be adapted to a variable frequency output. But
you still have to convert to dc, then convert back to ac with a
variable frequency switching supply of some sort. And you are still
limited by the ability of the induction motor to operate at lower
frequencies. Even 30hz, which is just half, is far worse at
induction.

Practically all small fans will be built with an induction motor and
speed control will be done via multiple sets of windings. Brushed
motors are more costly and have issues with brush wear and electrical
noise. They are seldom found in home appliances. I have seen them in
blenders though. Probably because blenders have a lot of speeds.

Your most effective solution, barring finding a fan with a non
induction motor, would be to replace the motor. That will probably
involve some minor fabrication unless you are really lucky. Another
option would be a DC motor and a variable output dc power supply.

But as you have found, there is no simple plug in solution for your
problem.

Perhaps a smaller fan. Or put the fan in a window further away from
you. If you leave the nearby window open you will still be in the
cross breeze.

I just want to say thanks for the reply and effort. I appreciate it.
That goes for the other useful posters too.

 

[Smitty Two]

I just want to say thanks for the reply and effort. I appreciate it.
That goes for the other useful posters too.

I just have one more question, if you don't mind: Do you think it might
be easier to just buy a fan that already has the features you want? For
continuously variable speed, maybe a Vornado, or for quietness, one of
those goofy bladeless fans from the pompous vacuum cleaner guy?

If you think that posters who told you that you were on a fool's errand
are assholes who should **** off, your definition of "useful" feedback
is a bit skewed.

 

[Martin Levac]

I just have one more question, if you don't mind: Do you think it might
be easier to just buy a fan that already has the features you want? For
continuously variable speed, maybe a Vornado, or for quietness, one of
those goofy bladeless fans from the pompous vacuum cleaner guy?

If you think that posters who told you that you were on a fool's errand
are assholes who should **** off, your definition of "useful" feedback
is a bit skewed.

I do think it would be best if I found a window fan with that feature
already integrated but I failed to locate such a fan. Do you mean to say
that one of the Vornado models had fully variable speed control? If so,
I'd be very interested in finding one of those.

I have to admit that I thought that my original purchase would be
adequate even if I knew it only had three fixed speeds and I only found
out that it wasn't adequate after the fact. Such is the risk of buying
before trying.

 

[Martin Levac]

PLONK. You're another foul mouthed idiot like Roy and the others I
won't waste any more time on.

So, you wasted your time posting here just to tell me that you won't
waste your time on me anymore?

Buddy, there's a lesson for you in there somewhere. Are you going to
learn it?

 

[Martin Levac]

Movng on. I presume you've gotten all the information on the subject
now. Or do you still have questions? And what's your plan next?

I got all the info I wanted I think, thanks. My plan is to stick with
what I got and look for a bargain VFD or a window fan with the feature I
want. Thanks again.

 

[Smitty Two]

I do think it would be best if I found a window fan with that feature
already integrated but I failed to locate such a fan. Do you mean to say
that one of the Vornado models had fully variable speed control? If so,
I'd be very interested in finding one of those.

A bit of googling reveals several Vornado models with infinitely
variable speed. Whether or not they're specifically designed for window
installation, I don't know, because I didn't feel like doing that much
research. But I saw at least 3 models of infinitely variable design.

 

[Martin Levac]

A bit of googling reveals several Vornado models with infinitely
variable speed. Whether or not they're specifically designed for window
installation, I don't know, because I didn't feel like doing that much
research. But I saw at least 3 models of infinitely variable design.

Thanks for the tip. I searched myself and found only the Vornado 280AE
window fan model with that feature, although not for sale. The hunt begins.

 

[Martin Levac]

I was right - this is entertaining. You go off half-cocked and buy
something that doesn't do what you want, than you get your panties in
a twist when people tell you you're half-cocked idea for how to fix
the problem you got yourself into won't work, and now, after being a
newsgroup puppet on a string, you decide to start doing your homework.

Glad to be of use.

Next time ask for the advice before you buy something and get yourself
into trouble.

R

Wait, you mean to say that my inability to predict the future is a
character flaw? Hindsight is 20/20 indeed. This reminds me of South Park
and the Captain Hindsight episode for some reason. Add this to your
initial reply of "don't do it", and you make a full fledged coward who
will do everything in his power not to take any risk whatsoever, and
fail to learn anything in the process. Because, as you know, we can only
learn from our mistakes, and since you don't make any due to your
cowardice and your unwillingness to take any risk, that makes you
ignorant as well.

Ignorance is bliss. Go home, kiss your wife goodnight, don't worry about
a thing, everything will be alright.

 

[Martin Levac]

SHUT THE **** UP YOU DIRTY LOW LIFE SCUMSUCKING TROLL.
AND STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR MOTHER THAT WAY, FOOL.
TGITM

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OH **** ME, NO YOU WONT LEARN **** ALL CUZ YOU A DUMAZZ DUMAZZ!!!!!1111

AXSHUALLY, YOU DID LEARN SOMETHIN, YOU LEARNED TO TROLL THE NEWSGROUPS
AND PRETEND TO BE SOMEBODY IMPOTENT!!!1111 IMPOTENT!!! HAR HAR HAR!!!!1111

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THATS TOO MANY HARS FOR YOU DUMAZZ IMPOTENT PERSON!!!!!1111

YOU MUST HAVE NO FUCKING LIFE IF YOU PUT SO MUCH TIME REPLYING TO ME
HERE DUMAZZ1111!!! DUMAZZ??? CLEAN UP YOUR ROOM DUMAZZ!!!!!11111 ONE
LAST THING ON THE INTARWEBS AND YOU GO TO SLEEP DUMAZZ!!!!1111111

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[Tom Biasi]

Wait, you mean to say that my inability to predict the future is a

character flaw?

Of course not. You're obstreperous behavior and ridiculous
defensiveness over your mistake is your character flaw. One of them.

Hindsight is 20/20 indeed. This reminds me of South Park
and the Captain Hindsight episode for some reason. Add this to your
initial reply of "don't do it", and you make a full fledged coward who
will do everything in his power not to take any risk whatsoever, and
fail to learn anything in the process. Because, as you know, we can only
learn from our mistakes, and since you don't make any due to your
cowardice and your unwillingness to take any risk, that makes you
ignorant as well.

a). I never told you to "don't do it" or anything of the kind. I
told Evan to not waste his time on you as you said you needed magic to
change you mind.
b). I make plenty of mistakes, responding to you being one of the
lesser ones (after counseling Evan to save his breath it makes my
mistake bigger - I keep a careful accounting).
c). Coward...? Is Rod Serling around here somewhere? I must have
stepped through a door and gone back in time to some playground. I
hate doing that.

Ignorance is bliss. Go home, kiss your wife goodnight, don't worry about
a thing, everything will be alright.

That's good advice.

Like I said before, ask you questions beforehand - it won't make you
less of a man. Honest.

R

He did nothing but give a wise-ass remark to anyone who told him something
he didn't want to hear.
HE IS JUST A KID TROLL !!!111

 

[Martin Levac]

YOUR LIFE MUST BE A BED OF ROSES, YOU DITZY FAGGOTY TROLL..
GO **** YOURSELF FOOL....YOU LOVE POTENT MEN DONT YOU?
BOOWAHAHAHAHA ! YOU FOOL I AM THE GHOST WITH THE MOST.
BUT DONKEY BOY SEEMS VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR FAGGOTY TROLL ASS, FOOL.
DON't WORRY BE HAPPY, HES THE MARRYING KIND.
BOOWAHAHAHAHA !

SAVE THE PLANET...KEEP YOUR MENTAL GARBAGE AND BRAIN TRASH TO
YOURSELF, DUMBASS !
TGITM

DUMASS? THATS MY INSULT DUMAZZ!11111 CANT MAKE UP YOUR OWN INSULTS
DUMAZZ??? NO IMAGINATION DUMAZZ? DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL DUMAZZ? FELL
ASLEEP IN CLASS DUMAZZ?

DUDE THE ONLY THING YOURE DOING IS SOILING YOUR OWN REPUTATION

I GOT WHAT I WANTED BUT YOU ARE JUST CRAPPING ALL OVER YOURSELF DUMAZZ

 

[Martin Levac]

Of course not. You're obstreperous behavior and ridiculous
defensiveness over your mistake is your character flaw. One of them.


a). I never told you to "don't do it" or anything of the kind. I
told Evan to not waste his time on you as you said you needed magic to
change you mind.
b). I make plenty of mistakes, responding to you being one of the
lesser ones (after counseling Evan to save his breath it makes my
mistake bigger - I keep a careful accounting).
c). Coward...? Is Rod Serling around here somewhere? I must have
stepped through a door and gone back in time to some playground. I
hate doing that.


That's good advice.

Like I said before, ask you questions beforehand - it won't make you
less of a man. Honest.

R

I will remember you as useless and unhelpful and mildly annoying. What
an impression you made on me. And now you're making lists as if what you
have to say is important? I can make lists too.

I will remember you as:

a) useless
b) unhelpful
c) mildly annoying

See? Now it's all important looking.

It just occurred to me, do you think me a fool? Beware, your answer will
determine your own character.

 

[Martin Levac]

Sigh. No, Marty, you are not a fool. You just have bad manners, an
inflated opinion of your smarts and trouble accepting criticism.

BTW, you didn't think the computer fan array was helpful? Why not?

R

Computer fans are too small thus must spin too fast thus produce too
much noise. And the frequency of that noise is too high thus much more
obvious and annoying comparatively. As for my bad manners, consider that
I only _reply_ in kind, I've never _started_ any bullshit, but I
certainly gave back as much as was taken. All my replies to those
helpful and informative were polite and kind and appreciative. How would
you define my original post if not polite, concise and to the point? Why
would I show bad manners if I wanted help? That makes no sense. But then
why would I be polite to those who are useless, unhelpful and downright
obnoxious to me with no provocation whatsoever from me like that guy who
thinks he's the boss of a.e.electrical, TGITM?

I am not above going very low in my social interaction to make a point.
But I wouldn't just start off that way to piss people off for no reason.
As far as I can see, there's been exactly zero legitimate criticism of
anything I said. And the criticism that was made was directed at my
desire to obtain information, and the simple desire to do what I want
with that information. How the **** do you justify this kind of
criticism, especially in the absence of any helpful comment in the same
breath? I was raised to shut the **** up if I had nothing good to say.
But I was also raised to stand up for myself. I won't start a fight, but
I'll finish it. Hence, I reply in kind until the point is made clear.

Is the point made clear?

 

[Martin Levac]

Wow, you completely summed yourself up in a neat ordered little
list...

You are quite the self-aware troll, aren't you...

~~ Evan

Have you ever looked up the definition of the word troll on Wikipedia?
Did you know that one defining characteristic of a troll is the tendency
to accuse others of being a troll? If all you have to say is "you're a
troll", perhaps it would be wise to look at your own contribution to the
discussion and how that contribution defines your character.

 

[Martin Levac]

Correction, Evan, the OP (as it happens, that's me) wants information,
information which you refused to provide outright. So Evan, **** off.

Umm... You want information on something which does not
exist for the application and device you want to redneck-engineer...

Rather than accept that INFORMATION and try to find another way
(i.e. not in a window mounted, speed controlled [with the control
cord mounted] fan) to accomplish your desire to move air quietly
you continue to ask pointless questions and balk at the fruits
of your own explorations as costing too much...

That sir is the textbook definition of trolling...

~~ Evan

Accusing others of being a troll is a defining characteristic of
trollish behavior. Another defining characteristic of trollish behavior
is the total uselessness of the contribution to the discussion. It seems
therefore that you have some introspecting to do, Evan.

 

[Martin Levac]

That's Pattycakes, our very own retarded fake ghost. Be kind to him, it's
not easy to think up an original insult when you're retarded like he is.

But I was trying to appear as retarded as he was. You know, just to make
a point. Looks like I got it right. Anyway, I see no point in being kind
to a retard. I mean, who's it going to offend?!?

 

[Martin Levac]

FUUUCK YOOOU FOOOL!
THAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU SCUM SUCKING TROLL....NOT ANYONE ELSE.
WHEN YOU DIE YOU COULD HAVE THE FUNERAL OWNER SHOVE IT ALL UP YOUR
SHORTLY MAGGOT RIDDEN ASS AND TAKE IT WITH YOU TO THE AFTER LIFE
TROLL......
YOU DIRTY LOW LIFE BESMIRCHING IDIOT.
IN THE MEANTIME I HOPE YOU AND YOUR BITCH ASS PROVIDER OF A HUSBAND
ARE TRULY HAPPY.
BOOWAHAHAHAHA......MARTIN LEVACUUM CLEANING SCUM SUCKER
A FOOL BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A FOOL, DUMBASS TROLL.
YOU ARE KNOWN BY YOUR SMELL BUT THE SHIT STAIN YOU ARE IS SHOWING AS
WELL.
TGITM
PATECUM

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