FCC 15, home or office use.

[Richard The Dreaded Libertarian]

[email protected], "greysky"

[snip]

Y'all know what that really means, don't you? It gives the government of
your respective countries the absolute right to 'revoke' the use of any
electronics devices you own which has the part 15 regs (or whatever
equivalent) placed on it. Now, they wont come busting into your house with
guns blasting or batons twirling, but oh, lets say they can target your town
with an EMP device and destroy all the electronics you own, and do it
legally. You wont even be able to make them pay the salvage bill. Remember,
government politicians are essentially lawyers... they wont do anything
without a rule or law telling them they can get away with it first.

Hey fellow, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get
you.

I'm beginning to think that anyone posting from SBC is a nutcase ;-)

...Jim Thompson

"They're all cry-zy, 'cept me 'n' yew. An' sometimes I got me doubts
about yew!"

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard The Dreaded Libertarian]

Your pointy tinfoil hat should protect you from the EMP device.

According to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a foil hat would be about as much
protection as a square of toilet paper.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[John Fields]

I don't get it.

A: "you're not allowed to interfere with anybody"
B: "anybody is allowed to interfere with you"

sounds a little lop-sided to me, like, howcome "anybody" doesn't have to
obey the same rules I have to? ?:-/

 

[ian field]

According to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a foil hat would be about as much
protection as a square of toilet paper.

Thanks,
Rich

Its possible to generate EMP without nuking anything.

 

[Don Bowey]

I don't get it.

A: "you're not allowed to interfere with anybody"
B: "anybody is allowed to interfere with you"

sounds a little lop-sided to me, like, howcome "anybody" doesn't have to
obey the same rules I have to? ?:-/

Thanks,
Rich

Here's the frame of reference.... A broadcast radio station is licensed to
operate a 50kW transmitter on 1500 kHz, under the appropriate FCC R&R (NOT
Part 15).

You wish to play with a 1500 kHz transmitter under the Rules of Part 15; you
are not licensed at all. If you interfere with a neighbor listening to the
licensed station you must stop, move to another frequency, play in the wee
hours of the morning, or whatever. If the licensed station stomps on your
ability to detect your own signal, the broadcast station is simply doing
what it is licensed for.

Part 15 opens some doors for experimentation, but gives no license with any
rights.

On a previous post, someone was grousing about RC transmitters needing to
conform to Part 15. They don't. They are licensed to operate on their
frequencies, some of which may be also licensed to other services, and they
must avoid each other, and nobody is to blame when the plane spins in for a
funny landing.

Don

 

[Eeyore]

I don't get it.

A: "you're not allowed to interfere with anybody"
B: "anybody is allowed to interfere with you"

sounds a little lop-sided to me, like, howcome "anybody" doesn't have to
obey the same rules I have to? ?:-/

It's the American Way ! In Euroweenieland it's like you think it should be !

Graham

 

[John Fields]

According to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a foil hat would be about as much
protection as a square of toilet paper.

---
Not true.

A foil hat would be much more reflective than a square of toilet
paper as far as mitigation of thermal effects would be concerned
but, of course, you wouldn't know anything about that...

Just like the rest of your "America needs to be taken down"
defeatist posts?

I guess you think that you'll be safe in your trailer if you put up
a sign that says you'll go down even if the rest of us won't.

 

[krw]

---
Not true.

A foil hat would be much more reflective than a square of toilet
paper as far as mitigation of thermal effects would be concerned
but, of course, you wouldn't know anything about that...

Just like the rest of your "America needs to be taken down"
defeatist posts?

I guess you think that you'll be safe in your trailer if you put up
a sign that says you'll go down even if the rest of us won't.

Oh, he'll go down, alright. Hell, he's been going down on a
stuffed donkey lately.

 

[John Fields]

It's the American Way ! In Euroweenieland it's like you think it should be !

 

[martin griffith]

---
Yeah, with people riding around in trucks listening to who's got
their TV on?

You just don't get it, do you?

Just like the RIAA ?


martin

 

[John Fields]

Just like the RIAA ?

---
Well, no.

The RIAA is trying to keep intellectual property from being stolen,
while the guys in the trucks are trying to keep people who haven't
paid their government a fee to view freely broadcasted stuff from
viewing it if they haven't paid the fee/tax.

 

[martin griffith]

---
Well, no.

The RIAA is trying to keep intellectual property from being stolen,
while the guys in the trucks are trying to keep people who haven't
paid their government a fee to view freely broadcasted stuff from
viewing it if they haven't paid the fee/tax.

The RIAA et al. are the bastards who try to put DRM on technology
outside the US jurisdiction, they should be smothered in boiling
Marmite.

A minor point, it is not a government fee, it keeps the BBC fed and
watered, which is generally a good thing, despite declining standards.




martin

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:13:25 +0200, martin griffith

[snip]

The RIAA et al. are the bastards who try to put DRM on technology
outside the US jurisdiction, they should be smothered in boiling
Marmite.
[snip]
martin

"Boiling Marmite"!

You're really serious about this aren't you ?

...Jim Thompson

 

[martin griffith]

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:13:25 +0200, martin griffith

[snip]

The RIAA et al. are the bastards who try to put DRM on technology
outside the US jurisdiction, they should be smothered in boiling
Marmite.
[snip]
martin

"Boiling Marmite"!

You're really serious about this aren't you ?

...Jim Thompson

Grrrrrrrrr... the RIAA should have stuck to picking time constants. It
kept Walt Jung in business for years.

And no that wimpy Vegimite wont do ;-)


martin

 

[Eeyore]

---
Yeah, with people riding around in trucks listening to who's got
their TV on?

You just don't get it, do you?

What drugs are you on ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Just like the RIAA ?

I forget who it was now but a US TV exec recently suggested that ppl should be
*compelled* to watch adverts as part of a 'contract' for service !

JF has probably never encountered ad-free TV / radio / internet news. It's easily
worth the 30p or so per day.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

---
Well, no.

The RIAA is trying to keep intellectual property from being stolen,
while the guys in the trucks are trying to keep people who haven't
paid their government a fee to view freely broadcasted stuff from
viewing it if they haven't paid the fee/tax.

It's obviously not free then is it ? It's a damn sight better than the crass pulp
that *would* claim to be 'free' though.

UK 'free' ( paid for by advertsing ) premier independent channel ITV1 is currently
seeing its worst ever viewing figures ever btw. A mere 18% or so.

Graham

 

[Frank Bemelman]

The RIAA et al. are the bastards who try to put DRM on technology
outside the US jurisdiction, they should be smothered in boiling
Marmite.

A minor point, it is not a government fee, it keeps the BBC fed and
watered, which is generally a good thing, despite declining standards.

Stupid tax system, when 99% owns a TV. Pay the BBC from income taxes
and get rid of that silly TV tax and the entire organisation that
collects it.

 

[Eeyore]

The RIAA et al. are the bastards who try to put DRM on technology
outside the US jurisdiction, they should be smothered in boiling
Marmite.

I agree. WTF was it with 'regional coding' on DVDs too ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:13:25 +0200, martin griffith

[snip]

The RIAA et al. are the bastards who try to put DRM on technology
outside the US jurisdiction, they should be smothered in boiling
Marmite.
[snip]
martin

"Boiling Marmite"!

You're really serious about this aren't you ?

Go boil your head in a vat of acid you illiberal fascist.

Graham