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Slim
shotgun boogie said:
testing the circuits. aint that how you do it?
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testing the circuits. aint that how you do it?
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shotgun boogie
Slim said:
Nope. I only call ADT when I feel the need to over pay for inferior work.
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Slim
shotgun boogie said:
and that'd be when? Never or 2nd day after Sarasota freezes over?
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Crash Gordon
Thats a good idea for really really big jobs. Typically I can hear my piezo
beeper (homemade job) very well in all but the biggest jobs...that high freq
cuts through most on job noise.
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Crash Gordon
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<I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > They were Sentrols.
| >
| >
| I've got an old kids walkie talkie set that has a button on it to send
| morse code. I have shorted the button so it sends the tone all the
| time. I put 2 alligator clips on one side of the battery lead. I use
| it sometimes to test switches. Basically I run the 9v battery on the
| transmitter through the alarm circuit. As I open and close windows the
| receiver beeps when loop is closed and is silent when loop is open.
| Don't use it much but every now and then is comes in handy on someone
| else prewire.
beeper (homemade job) very well in all but the biggest jobs...that high freq
cuts through most on job noise.
--
Crash Gordon
-------ouch------
<I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > They were Sentrols.
| >
| >
| I've got an old kids walkie talkie set that has a button on it to send
| morse code. I have shorted the button so it sends the tone all the
| time. I put 2 alligator clips on one side of the battery lead. I use
| it sometimes to test switches. Basically I run the 9v battery on the
| transmitter through the alarm circuit. As I open and close windows the
| receiver beeps when loop is closed and is silent when loop is open.
| Don't use it much but every now and then is comes in handy on someone
| else prewire.
C
Crash Gordon
They beat me to the punch...read my earlier post.
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Crash Gordon
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<I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > Actually your quite correct...I do remember one house that none of the
| > switches worked about a week after I put them it...after calming down
| > a pissed off client, come to find out ADT installer was there
| > "testing" all of my switches with a 12v 7amp battery and a siren.
| > Duh. Homeowner wanted me to replace all the switches...idiot. Told
| > him sorry...outta warranty have ADT fix what the exploded. He just
| > smoked dem contacts till they blew open and stayed open.
| >
| >
| > <I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>
| > | >> Crash Gordon said:
| >>
| >>> It happens, usually it welds the switches closed, which is why we
| >>> always recommend the homeowner test all openings at least once a
| >>> year but definitely after a major lightning storm nearby. I've
| >>> never found one go open though.
| >>
| >> Granted, welding shut seems to be the more common failure mode. But
| >> sometimes, they do go open. I think what happens is that the heat
| >> causes the glass tube to crack where the metal reed goes through the
| >> glass, causing it to lose its support and the spring tension that
| >> tends to keep the switch closed. Back in the old days, some
| >> manufacturers used gold to plate the contacts of their reed
| >> switches. Bad idea.
|
| What was ADT doing there?
|
| --
| js
|
| - The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
| ( Also, the harder they bite, punch, and kick.)
|
|
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Crash Gordon
-------ouch------
<I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > Actually your quite correct...I do remember one house that none of the
| > switches worked about a week after I put them it...after calming down
| > a pissed off client, come to find out ADT installer was there
| > "testing" all of my switches with a 12v 7amp battery and a siren.
| > Duh. Homeowner wanted me to replace all the switches...idiot. Told
| > him sorry...outta warranty have ADT fix what the exploded. He just
| > smoked dem contacts till they blew open and stayed open.
| >
| >
| > <I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>
| > | >> Crash Gordon said:
| >>
| >>> It happens, usually it welds the switches closed, which is why we
| >>> always recommend the homeowner test all openings at least once a
| >>> year but definitely after a major lightning storm nearby. I've
| >>> never found one go open though.
| >>
| >> Granted, welding shut seems to be the more common failure mode. But
| >> sometimes, they do go open. I think what happens is that the heat
| >> causes the glass tube to crack where the metal reed goes through the
| >> glass, causing it to lose its support and the spring tension that
| >> tends to keep the switch closed. Back in the old days, some
| >> manufacturers used gold to plate the contacts of their reed
| >> switches. Bad idea.
|
| What was ADT doing there?
|
| --
| js
|
| - The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
| ( Also, the harder they bite, punch, and kick.)
|
|
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Slob
Crash said:
dontcha worry about blasting some plumbers eardrum out by accident with
the peizo?
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Doug
Accident? no, timing is everything.
Doug
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Doug
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Slob said:dontcha worry about blasting some plumbers eardrum out by accident with
the peizo?
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Crash Gordon
You've gotta be kidding!
I worked on a job about a month ago. I like quiet...I enjoy working with no
music. Anyway, we go into this huge echo-y house and theres 5 different
Mexican crews all playing (at max volume) DIFFERENT Mexican radio stations
or CDs. I told them ONE station and half the volume, or I will smash the
freekin radios.
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Crash Gordon
-------ouch------
<I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > Thats a good idea for really really big jobs. Typically I can hear my
piezo
| > beeper (homemade job) very well in all but the biggest jobs...that high
freq
| > cuts through most on job noise.
| >
|
| dontcha worry about blasting some plumbers eardrum out by accident with
| the peizo?
I worked on a job about a month ago. I like quiet...I enjoy working with no
music. Anyway, we go into this huge echo-y house and theres 5 different
Mexican crews all playing (at max volume) DIFFERENT Mexican radio stations
or CDs. I told them ONE station and half the volume, or I will smash the
freekin radios.
--
Crash Gordon
-------ouch------
<I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > Thats a good idea for really really big jobs. Typically I can hear my
piezo
| > beeper (homemade job) very well in all but the biggest jobs...that high
freq
| > cuts through most on job noise.
| >
|
| dontcha worry about blasting some plumbers eardrum out by accident with
| the peizo?
R
Robert L Bass
I told them ONE station and half the volume, or I will smash the
That reminds me of a job we did in Hartford many years ago. The
customer was rehabbing the home after a fire. He had a company
called the "Stereo Shop" install a multi-room audio. We put in the
alarm system. When the system was finished I walked around the house
and warned everyone that I was going to test the siren. Inside the
panel was a JDS-100i driver. In the bedroom hallway was a
flush-mount speaker, wired in parallel with a 40-Watt horn just
inside the attic louver. I don't recall exactly but the output was
something like 120dB at 10 feet.
I armed the system, waited for the exit delay and opened a window.
After a few seconds I hit the code and shut it down. A few seconds
later a really PO'd tech from the stereo shop came down from the
attic. He had been installing an FM antenna right behind the horn
when it went off. It startled him so much that he stood bolt
upright, banging his head on a roofing nail.
I apologized and explained that I had told everyone I was about to
set off the siren. No one told me anyone was up there. He kept
complaining until I finally said something to the effect, "Look, you
heard a loud noise and hit your head. There's no major damage..."
Idiot boy interrupted me, "Your hearing hasn't been fine tuned to
hear music like mine," or some such stereo sales drivel.
I asked him if the customer had already bought the system from his
employer. He said, "Yes, of course."
I said, "OK, then. You can drop the bullshit now and get back to
work." :^)
BTW, the "Stereo Shop" tech-idiots the speaker wires through the
holes along with plumbing and hot water heating pipes. Instead of
drive rings they ties their cables (none of which were rated for
in-wall use) to pipes, conduit or whatever was handy. This was the
same shop that years later sold my customer some garden hose sized
speaker cables when all he needed was to re-driver the used speakers
he had. Idiots!
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
That reminds me of a job we did in Hartford many years ago. The
customer was rehabbing the home after a fire. He had a company
called the "Stereo Shop" install a multi-room audio. We put in the
alarm system. When the system was finished I walked around the house
and warned everyone that I was going to test the siren. Inside the
panel was a JDS-100i driver. In the bedroom hallway was a
flush-mount speaker, wired in parallel with a 40-Watt horn just
inside the attic louver. I don't recall exactly but the output was
something like 120dB at 10 feet.
I armed the system, waited for the exit delay and opened a window.
After a few seconds I hit the code and shut it down. A few seconds
later a really PO'd tech from the stereo shop came down from the
attic. He had been installing an FM antenna right behind the horn
when it went off. It startled him so much that he stood bolt
upright, banging his head on a roofing nail.
I apologized and explained that I had told everyone I was about to
set off the siren. No one told me anyone was up there. He kept
complaining until I finally said something to the effect, "Look, you
heard a loud noise and hit your head. There's no major damage..."
Idiot boy interrupted me, "Your hearing hasn't been fine tuned to
hear music like mine," or some such stereo sales drivel.
I asked him if the customer had already bought the system from his
employer. He said, "Yes, of course."
I said, "OK, then. You can drop the bullshit now and get back to
work." :^)
BTW, the "Stereo Shop" tech-idiots the speaker wires through the
holes along with plumbing and hot water heating pipes. Instead of
drive rings they ties their cables (none of which were rated for
in-wall use) to pipes, conduit or whatever was handy. This was the
same shop that years later sold my customer some garden hose sized
speaker cables when all he needed was to re-driver the used speakers
he had. Idiots!
--
Regards,
Robert L Bass
=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
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Robert L Bass
I would have thrown your ass out for saying that
You might have tried.
This assumes you actually happened.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
You might have tried.
This assumes you actually happened.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
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Doug
So would the stereo guy if RLB had actually said it.
Doug
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Doug
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Frank Olson
Doug said:
After "banging his head on a roof nail"??? I'm surprised he could even
talk (let alone climb down from the attic). Definitely something
"fishy" about this story.
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Norm Mugford
Frank Olsen wrote:
"Definitely something "fishy" about this story."
Fishy & BAss.....you hit it right on the head Frank,
no pun intended.....
Norm Mugford
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
"Definitely something "fishy" about this story."
Fishy & BAss.....you hit it right on the head Frank,
no pun intended.....
Norm Mugford
Frank Olson said:
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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Nomen Nescio
Bass said:
Please tell us what types of cables are rated for in-wall use.
Please cite an NEC section to support your claim.
- badenov
Please tell us what types of cables are rated for in-wall use.
Please cite an NEC section to support your claim.
- badenov
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Frank Olson
Nomen said:
You honestly think he will?
By the way, *Mr. Sableman*, I wish you'd stop posting anonymously.
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Robert L Bass
Someone hiding behind a pseudonym said:
Poor choice of words. The cable they used was not listed for use in
buildings.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
Poor choice of words. The cable they used was not listed for use in
buildings.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
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