ETI-702

[yaputya]

Any old-timers out there that can help me with an old 10.525GHz doppler
radar project?
It was published in ETI as the ETI-702 around May 1975 and used the CL8960
module from Philips.
I built the thing way back when and have just found it again in a box of old
electronic bits.
The article from ETI would be much appreciated.

 

[F Murtz]

Any old-timers out there that can help me with an old 10.525GHz doppler
radar project?
It was published in ETI as the ETI-702 around May 1975 and used the CL8960
module from Philips.
I built the thing way back when and have just found it again in a box of old
electronic bits.
The article from ETI would be much appreciated.

Copies of these magazines are usually held by the state library in nsw
and maybee libraries in other places.

 

[Phil Allison]

"yaputya"

Any old-timers out there that can help me with an old 10.525GHz doppler
radar project?
It was published in ETI as the ETI-702 around May 1975 and used the CL8960
module from Philips.
I built the thing way back when and have just found it again in a box of
old electronic bits.
The article from ETI would be much appreciated.

** Silicon Chip have all the back issues and can do a reprint for you.

Costs $12, if that is not to much for your finances.


..... Phil

 

[yaputya]

"yaputya"


** Silicon Chip have all the back issues and can do a reprint for you.

Costs $12, if that is not to much for your finances.


.... Phil

I really only need the schematic and component overlay.
$12 is a rip-off, SC should put all the old ETI's online for free like Popular Science have done.
http://www.popsci.com/archives

 

[Phil Allison]

"yaputya"

I really only need the schematic and component overlay.

** Yawnnnnn........

$12 is a rip-off,

** Shameful - Leo should be spanked to within an inch of his life ...

SC should put all the old ETI's online for free like Popular Science have
done.
http://www.popsci.com/archives

** How stupid - ETI was never a mag that SC published.

PLUS - at $12 for a reprint, individually hand copied and mailed to your
home address, it is a clear money loser for SC.

But that sort of bloody obvious fact wouldn't bother a born piece of sub
human shit like you.

FOAD, painfully.




..... Phil

 

[yaputya]

"yaputya"


** Yawnnnnn........




** Shameful - Leo should be spanked to within an inch of his life ...

That wouldn't take much these days.

** How stupid - ETI was never a mag that SC published.

SC is the only entity that can 'legally' put the ETI archives online, since they
'obtained' the rights when Federal Publishing axed EA.
So if SC won't do it themselves, they should let someone else have a go.
BTW
One bloke -Marty- at http://www.retro-riders.com/tech/magz/ used to scan
*any* project article in any of the electronics mags and put 'em up somewhere
on his site for download. And he never charged a cent. He didn't make them public,
you sent him an email for a particular article and he would scan it and send you
the URL by email. Unfortunately the net police seem to have got to him and closed him down.

PLUS - at $12 for a reprint, individually hand copied and mailed to your home address, it is a clear money loser for SC.

They charge $15 for O/S mailing.

So why do they bother if it's such a Phil er such a loser? Just give the job of scanning the
ETI projects to someone who will put them online for nix, like Popular Science did.

Anyway, SC are still photocopying and snail-mailing instead of scanning and
e-mailing. Wake up Leo, it is 2012!

Oh dear.....
Phil the foulmouthed faggot couldn't have taken his pills yet today.......

 

[yaputya]

Copies of these magazines are usually held by the state library in nsw and maybee libraries in other places.

Thanks, but I'm about 10,000 miles from NSW.

 

[yaputya]

"yaputya"


** You are missing the point - fuckwit.

The people who still hold copyright ( myself included) would be entitled to an extra fee if the material were ever republished on
the net. Send an email to Leo about it if you want all the details.

You are so out of touch with the real world.
For a start, there are hundreds of people who contributed to EA and ETI,
you will never track them down to send them their "entitelments".
Secondly, your stuff and and everyone elses project contributions to
EA and ETI can be put on the web by anyone in the world. I have seen stuff from
SC republished on various OS electronics forums etc. and they are still in
business!
So all your waffle about getting paid if the EA/ETI archive was made available
for free is unenforcable and patently ridiculous.

** You are sooooo wrong - yet again.

One of my projects ( Miniosc) is still being sold as a kit by Altronics and all nine of them of them are still perfectly viable
designs for home construction.

Big deal. That's about the only project that still is a kit.
Oh, and please answer this Einstein....
Altronics are still selling a kit, are you getting paid for that ?
If someone wanted to build the Miniosc, would they simply go
to Altronics and buy the kit (you get nothing) or would they
get a reprint from SC and make their own (you still get nothing).
If the EA archive was online you would still get nothing, but SC
would be saving money (you said so yourself).

** Try learning to read - fuckwit.

YOU made the erroneous comparison over and over.




** The authors of nearly all the contributed projects and articles still hold copyright - cos EA, ETI and SC never asked them to
sign a contract transferring copyright to them.

True, but the contributors aren't makin any money out of the current
arrangements, the projects are largely of historical significance and
anyone violating this pissweak example of copyright would be ROTFL
if you tried to take them to court.
It's called pissing into the wind and you are very good at it, it seems.

BTW I have a Mini Oscillator!! I bought it when Dick Smith was getting
out of the kit business and selling off all the kits in the stores.
It only cost $5, worth that in parts alone. But I built it anyway and still use
it - it's handy but you still need a CRO to see what the uncalibrated
thing is actually putting out. Especially as there is no weak battery indication.

Funny thing is the DSE K-7339 Assembly Manual that came with the
kit doesn't mention any "Phil Allison" at all!!!! It says the circuit "derives
from the Low Distortion Oscillator in Feb/Mar 1989 EA, and
it occurred to us that an even simpler version was possible."
Now I don't doubt that Phil designed the "Son of LDO" but he didn't
get any credit in the DSE kit. And he didn't get any money from the
sale of that kit, either.

 

[yaputya]

"yaputyaa = ****

** You have no fucking idea.

See how much activity there is on "aus.hi-fi" or " alt.audio.pro.live-sound" in the last few years.

What were once troll infested shit holes are now ghost towns.

This NG is not far behind.

Cunts beware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder
"Paranoid personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia
and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others.
Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted,
and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues
or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases.

 

[Phil Allison]

"yaputya = LIAR "

"Phil Allison"


For a start, there are hundreds of people who contributed to EA and ETI,
you will never track them down to send them their "entitelments".

** Or to simply ask for their permission to republish on the net.

Big problem.

Secondly, your stuff and and everyone elses project contributions to
EA and ETI can be put on the web by anyone in the world.

** Not legally and that is irrelevant to the SC situation.

So all your waffle about getting paid if the EA/ETI archive was made
available
for free is unenforcable ...

** Against SC magazine, it would be enforceable.

You rabid half wit.

Big deal. That's about the only project that still is a kit.

** Makes it a pretty cool design - eh.

Altronics are still selling a kit, are you getting paid for that ?

** The hobby magzines do not ask for any ROYALTIES nor can any author get
them from a kit supplier.

You have fucking NO idea how the business works.

If someone wanted to build the Miniosc, would they simply go
to Altronics and buy the kit (you get nothing) or would they
get a reprint from SC and make their own (you still get nothing).

** They get a reprint with the kit, standard practice and part of the
original deal when contributing.

If the EA archive was online you would still get nothing,

** I could veto the re-publication on the net of my projects by SC.

Then publish them on a website myself, as I hold copyright.

Royalties and copyright are separate issues - fuckwit.

True, but the contributors aren't makin any money out of the current
arrangements,

** Irrelevant to the copyright issue.

You have no idea how it works - fuckwit .

BTW I have a Mini Oscillator!! I bought it when Dick Smith was getting
out of the kit business and selling off all the kits in the stores.
It only cost $5, worth that in parts alone. But I built it anyway and
still use
it - it's handy but you still need a CRO to see what the uncalibrated
thing is actually putting out.

** You have ears don't you ?

It was designed for audio testing - fuckwit.

Especially as there is no weak battery indication.

** The unit works perfectly with only 6.2 volts coming from the battery,
then goes into slight distortion below that.

If you can hear any distortion, the batt is flat.

Fuckwit.

Funny thing is the DSE K-7339 Assembly Manual that came with the
kit doesn't mention any "Phil Allison" at all!!!!

** Most authors wanted their names removed by kit suppliers to stop raving
idiots like YOU contacting them with stupid questions and asking for remote
diagnoses of their OWN mistakes.

Fuckwit.


..... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"yaputya is a LIAR "
"Phil Allison"

"yaputya"

I got through uni and the rest of my life without one.

** But you are having one right now.

You are bullshitting so hard you may drop dead any minute.

Australian citizens cannot be deported

** But you are not one.

Oh really?????

** Yep.

You enrolled in an Honours course in science and engineering, did you?

** Yep, right from day one.

Entry to the special honours level courses was based on a student' s HSC
exam results, you had to be in the top 100 in both Math and Physics ( the
first level courses) to have a chance.

This was the deal at Sydney Uni in the early 1970s.



.... Phil

 

[keithr]

** Makes it a pretty cool design - eh.

copied from Wireless World, it should be.

 

[Phil Allison]

"keithratbag is a LIAR "

Phil Allison:


copied from Wireless World, it should be.

** WW never published a similar project.

You lying nut case.



..... Phil

 

[keithr]

"keithratbag is a LIAR"


** WW never published a similar project.

http://sound.westhost.com/project86.htm

note at the bottom

Reference
The original circuit was published in Wireless World, February 1982. The
original thermistor was specified as a Philips type, 68k, 20mW (type
number 2322 634 32683), however a search indicates that it is no longer
available. A reader kindly scanned the article, and a PDF of the 1982
article is available from ESP if desired.

 

[Phil Allison]

"keithratbag is a LIAR"

Phil Allison:

http://sound.westhost.com/project86.htm

note at the bottom

Reference

The original circuit was published in Wireless World, February 1982.

** The 1982 WW article was neither a construction project nor was it a
similar design to the Miniosc.

BTW:

Project 86 on Rod Elliot's pages varies significantly from my article in EA
magazine published in December 1996 - as Rod made a number of additions,
deletions and substitutions to my original text - mostly without my
permission.

He designed his own PCB for the project too, so he could sell them.

The original thermistor was specified as a Philips type, 68k, 20mW (type
number 2322 634 32683),

** The Miniosc does not use a thermistor at all - as even a cursory
examination of the schematic reveals.

The December issue of EA magazine has the actual project.

$12 from Silicon Chip.

Say hi to Leo for me .............



..... Phil

 

[yaputya]

** Yep.



** Yep, right from day one.

Entry to the special honours level courses was based on a student' s HSC exam results, you had to be in the top 100 in both Math
and Physics ( the first level courses) to have a chance.

This was the deal at Sydney Uni in the early 1970s.

Oh Really?????? Prove it!
Are you claiming you did different subjects and had different lecturers
than the normal engineering undergraduate?

There were no honours subjects in the first three years of engineering!
Honours degrees were awarded largely based on the fourth year thesis.
Assuming you haven't forgotten (understandable after your
nervous breakdown that caused you to drop out) you should
remember EXACTLY which subjects you did.

Here is a challenge that will prove that you are lying or not:
Please list the subjects that you passed, start with the first two years.
I am interested to see how the ficticious 'special honours level courses'
subject descriptions differs from my UoS examination result notices.
And you should still have them somewhere, dig 'em out, they were
printed on green paper back then. Please don't tell us that you threw
them away, nobody would believe that you threw away the only proof
of at least one year at uni.




Background info - note no special subjects in the first three years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder
"Paranoid personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia
and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others.
Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted,
and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues
or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases.

A pig arrogant cunthead like you would have blended in very nicely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder

A faggot like you would have been very upset at Sydney Uni Engineering in the '70s.
Rule #1 in the SUEUA was: NO POOFTERS
So was rule#2 etc.......


The truth about Sydney Uni Honors courses...
http://sydney.edu.au/science/cstudent/pg/research/honours/index.shtml
"Honours in the Faculty of Science is a widely recognised and highly regarded additional
year of undergraduate study available to students who have recently completed their undergraduate degree."

http://sydney.edu.au/engineering/it/current_students/undergrad/honours/grades.shtml
"The degree that a student is eligible for when starting Honours is a Pass degree.
The work done in the Honours year can be thought of as an 'upgrade' of this degree.
If a student fails the Honours year, it simply means that the student is left with the Pass degree
- no class of Honours is awarded."

http://sydney.edu.au/engineering/civil/current/undergraduate/thesis.shtml
"The University awards honours at graduation to students who achieved a high level
of academic performance throughout their degree, including a significant research component
of the research thesis."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor's_degree#Australia
In Australia the degree is awarded with honours to students who have achieved a higher level
of performance in a fourth year, one beyond a typical bachelor's degree.
Some bachelor's degrees include an honours program as part of a four-year degree
(i.e., engineering or psychology).

 

[yaputya]

"yaputya = LIAR "

** Or to simply ask for their permission to republish on the net.

Big problem.

Nobody but you would give a **** about having their contributions put in
the modern public online domain.
You are only crapping on because I have beaten you into corner - you
will never make any more money out of your EA stuff so why not just
put it all out there? At least your name will be associated with something
other than abusive and psychotic trolling of newsgroups, like it is now.

** Not legally and that is irrelevant to the SC situation.

In this case the law truly is an ass, and you are a fuckwit for taking
such a ridiculous position. Earth to Phil, earth to Phil, nobody is
going to give you any more money for your stuff.

** Against SC magazine, it would be enforceable.

You rabid half wit.

Dear oh dear, you are so out of touch with the real world it is hilarious!!!!

And you don't make a cent, it probably already running at a loss for Altronics.

** Makes it a pretty cool design - eh.

Look, I said I built one, I could have take a pig-headed attitude and
never mentioned it, but you would still miss the point. You ain't going to
make any more money out of it no matter what. FACT!!!
At the moment hardly anyone knows that you were behind the Miniosc. (caveat)
That situation will be permanent if SC sits on the EA/ETI archive forever,
losing money on every reprint.

** The hobby magzines do not ask for any ROYALTIES nor can any author get them from a kit supplier.

You have fucking NO idea how the business works.

Of course I do you FUCKWIT! You really are a bit stupid sometimes.
You are the idiot for defending this arrangement when you stand to get
absolutely NOTHING! No money AND no recognition!

** They get a reprint with the kit, standard practice and part of the original deal when contributing.

AND YOU STILL GET NOTHING!

** I could veto the re-publication on the net of my projects by SC.

Then you would guarantee that nobody will ever see your project again.

Then publish them on a website myself, as I hold copyright.

Oh yeah, your own website will be at the bottom of the search engine list.
Good way to bury your project forever. If it was part of an EA archive you
would be guaranteed future readers.

Royalties and copyright are separate issues - fuckwit.

The real world is the only thing that matters - in the real world your
project will be gone forever if you have to request it from SC or if it
is only on the obscure 'Phils Phucked-Up Projects' website.

** Irrelevant to the copyright issue.

You have no idea how it works - fuckwit .

See above about the real world - faggot in dreamworld.

** You have ears don't you ?

It was designed for audio testing - fuckwit.

Testing if an audio amp is switched on, you mean?
You can stick ya finger on the input for that, if you want to do things like
measure the gain and frequency response of an amp (as opposed to Phil's
version of 'audio testing') then you still need a CRO - fuckwit.

You really are a fucking idiot. Here is someone who built your project
and you can't stop yourself from calling them a fuckwit.

** Most authors wanted their names removed by kit suppliers to stop raving idiots like YOU contacting them with stupid questions
and asking for remote diagnoses of their OWN mistakes.

I bet you weren't even asked by DSE! They just dropped your name as irrelevant.

Anyway it seems 'your design' was not original.
For a start EA wrote that the circuit
"derives from the Low Distortion Oscillator in Feb/Mar 1989 EA, and
it occurred to us that an even simpler version was possible."

Now, did you design the Low Distortion Oscillator too?

 

[Phil Allison]

"yaputya"

Anyway it seems 'your design' was not original.
For a start EA wrote that the circuit
"derives from the Low Distortion Oscillator in Feb/Mar 1989 EA, and
it occurred to us that an even simpler version was possible."

Now, did you design the Low Distortion Oscillator too?

** Yep.

EA did not design the LDO project, I sent all details and a prototype to the
mag in late 1988. Seems the dopes in DSE's kit department imagined I was an
EA staffer.

BTW:

You are not merely a troll, liar and absolute idiot, but a grade A
psychopath.

Get cancer an die you stinking POS.


..... Phil

 

[yaputya]

"yaputya"



** Yep.

EA did not design the LDO project, I sent all details and a prototype to the mag in late 1988. Seems the dopes in DSE's kit
department imagined I was an EA staffer.

Does the Feb/Mar 1989 EA LDO article have your name on it?
Perhaps you should scan it and put it online, as nobody is going to pay SC
$12-$15 to prove it one way or the other.

BTW:

You are not merely a troll, liar and absolute idiot, but a grade A psychopath.

ROTFLMFHO!!
Just Google 'Phil Allison' in groups and you will see what the rest of the world thinks
of you, the #1 paranoid psycho!

BTW Why did you drop out of uni if you think you were so smart????
Nervous breakdown? What did make you abandon higher education a only few months
of study, never to return to academia again? How many exams did you actually sit for?

There were a huge number of ARSEHOLES at Sydney Uni - among the student body and the staff.
A pig arrogant cunthead like you would have blended in very nicely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder
"Paranoid personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia
and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others.
Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted,
and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues
or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases."

That is an EXACT description of Phil Allison.

And here Phil shows the contempt he holds for aus.electronics...

 

[Phil Allison]

"yaputya = CRIMINAL PSYCHOPATH "

Does the Feb/Mar 1989 EA LDO article have your name on it?

** Of course.

Perhaps you should scan it and put it online, as nobody is going to pay SC
$12-$15 to prove it one way or the other.

** Some here would have a copy of the mag.




......Phil