DSC 632 - Using both 900Mhz and 433Mhz sensors

[spdb66@mizzou.edu]

I have searched the forums for help on this topic, but I never have
quite seen a full answer. I have a DSC 632 system with several 900Mhz
sensors and a keypad with built in 900Mhz receiver. Since DSC now
switched to 433Mhz is it possible to add a 433Mhz antenna/receiver to
the system to allow use of 900 and 433 based sensors? I would assume
this would be ok since the 433Mhz receiver (DSC PC5132-433 Wireless
Receiver) supports it's own zones. Anyone tried this ? Thanks

 

[Frank Olson]

I have searched the forums for help on this topic, but I never have
quite seen a full answer. I have a DSC 632 system with several 900Mhz
sensors and a keypad with built in 900Mhz receiver. Since DSC now
switched to 433Mhz is it possible to add a 433Mhz antenna/receiver to
the system to allow use of 900 and 433 based sensors? I would assume
this would be ok since the 433Mhz receiver (DSC PC5132-433 Wireless
Receiver) supports it's own zones. Anyone tried this ? Thanks

You can't "mix" transmitters on your system. You're going to have to
upgrade all your transmitters along with the receiver. You can probably
sell the 900 mHz stuff on eBay fairly easily considering the number of
units "out there" and still in service. Alternatively, you can search
eBay or http://www.tech-man.com for any additional units you might require.

 

[R.H.Campbell]

Frank, I am told by Tried that a small device is coming out which will allow
the use of both the 433 and 900 hertz transmitters and devices. You will
have to buy both receivers which are wired in as per normal, plus this small
box like device which somehow enables both frequencies to work
together....around $80 I think, plus the 433 receiver and any new devices

RHC

You can't "mix" transmitters on your system. You're going to have to
upgrade all your transmitters along with the receiver. You can probably
sell the 900 mHz stuff on eBay fairly easily considering the number of
units "out there" and still in service. Alternatively, you can search
eBay or http://www.tech-man.com for any additional units you might
require.

I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

 

[Impalpable]

Ok, so no on the sensors. What about adding one of the 433Mhz key fob
sets ? The kit comes with a receiver for up to 8 keys, but it not used
for sensors.

 

[Impalpable]

Dang, no key fobs for me then I guess. I will just have to walk that
extra 5 feet and type the code. Why did DSC go and have to make me
stop being lazy? Sad.

 

[alarman]

Dang, no key fobs for me then I guess. I will just have to walk that
extra 5 feet and type the code. Why did DSC go and have to make me
stop being lazy? Sad.

Street Smart
http://www.security.honeywell.com/hsce/products/wireless/re/st/34816.html

or,
Check these out:
http://www.mysecurewireless.com/universal.html

Made by the people who started Street Smart then sold to Ademco, now
Honeywell. The Street Smart units work very well.
js

 

[alarman]

How would the secure wireless universal be any different than using the
DSC module that only does key fobs ? I would still have two receivers
on the same system. Perhaps I am missing something? Thanks foor your
help everyone.

I have not used the Secure wireless. I have used the Street Smart receiver
on the same system with a DSC receiver with no trouble.
js

 

[Impalpable]

How would the secure wireless universal be any different than using the
DSC module that only does key fobs ? I would still have two receivers
on the same system. Perhaps I am missing something? Thanks foor your
help everyone.

 

[Devin]

How would the secure wireless universal be any different than using the
DSC module that only does key fobs ? I would still have two receivers
on the same system. Perhaps I am missing something? Thanks foor your
help everyone.

You could always use a visonic wireless pendant, and just use a zone as
a arm/disarm trigger. Not the most secure way of doing it but it would
work. Of course it depends on the free zones you have.

 

[alarman]

You could always use a visonic wireless pendant, and just use a zone as
a arm/disarm trigger. Not the most secure way of doing it but it would
work. Of course it depends on the free zones you have.

The Street Smart keyfob allow stay arm, away arm, disarm, two auxiliary
outputs (garage doors), and panic all on one four-button keyfob. You can get
the receiver, l.e.d. on a plate, and two keyfobs for about the same price
you would pay for one Visonic receiver and one one-button keyfob, and the
Street Smart unit goes on the keybus, and doesn't use up a zone.
js

 

[Impalpable]

So are we sure the Street Smart key fob kit would not interfere with my
DSC keypad with built in 900 MHz receiver? A few people in the
beginning said it would conflict and would not allow two different
wireless receivers to be used on the same system. The problem is not
selecting which key fob to use, but if any on a frequency other than
900 MHz can be used at all on the same system. If I can use a key fob
I will get the DSC kit (PC5102WKK2-433). Thanks for your input.

 

[Jim]

If all you want is a key fob you could use a universal receiver and fob,
Street smart security (now part of Honeywell) I believe used to, and may
still make a device that would work with the DSC keypad bus. There are
probably others out there, Napco?, that do the same.

Doug L

Yes, Napco has a wireless keyfob and receiver that will work with other
panels.
I've never had to use the keyfob with other than a Napco panel, so I
don't know the details with out looking at a set of instructions.

 

[Devin]

The Street Smart keyfob allow stay arm, away arm, disarm, two auxiliary
outputs (garage doors), and panic all on one four-button keyfob. You can get
the receiver, l.e.d. on a plate, and two keyfobs for about the same price
you would pay for one Visonic receiver and one one-button keyfob, and the
Street Smart unit goes on the keybus, and doesn't use up a zone.
js

Really. Never heard of that unit. i will have to check that out.

 

[Doug L]

The DSC receivers have to be enrolled into the system as a unique module,
the panel will only allow one wireless module to be enrolled without using
the 5320 which won't let you mix 900 & 433 receivers.
The universal receivers normally don't have to be enrolled as a module, they
either simply draw power from the panel and have a relay output that will
trigger a zone on the panel programmed as momentary arm/disarm, or they just
sit on the bus without being enrolled and more or less simulate a keypad,
pressing the arm/disarm button in this case will in effect send a
preprogrammed code to the system that will be interpreted by the panel as a
valid code as if entered at a keypad . At least thats my understanding of it

Doug L

 

[James B]

I have recently added a Street Smart reciever to a power 832 DSC control
that has 900mhz wireless. The set up works just fine. The street smart
does not enroll on the system and therfore will work no matter what other
reciever you have.

I was told by my distributor that the module to allow 2 recievers is on
their shelves now, but for the price, a street smart was the way to go
if you only wanted key fobs'.

James

 

[Impalpable]

Ok, so Street Smart seems like the way to go. I haven't seen any on
ebay and am on what some might call a low budget (I'm donating this
system to a single mom who needs to protect her home and children).
Anyone know of a good place to get a couple of keys at low cost. I
really think these are needed as the woman's mind is going and numbers
seem to slip away. Thanks all.

 

[Impalpable]

Ok, so Street Smart seems like the way to go. I haven't seen any on
ebay and am on what some might call a low budget (I'm donating this
system to a single mom who needs to protect her home and children).
Anyone know of a good place to get a couple of keys at low cost. I
really think these are needed as the woman's mind is going and numbers
seem to slip away. I would need two keys. Thanks all.

 

[James B]

http://cgi.ebay.com/HONEYWELL-STREE...yZ115946QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

James

 

[Impalpable]

Thanks James, I just found that a few hours ago. I think that would
be the best deal for me. I appreciate everyone helping me get this
together.

- Scott

 

[mikey]

Her mind is going? Maybe we should consider protecting the kids from mom.