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Diesel powered bike, will run on biodiesel

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Anthony Matonak

Eeyore said:
What's the purpose of one of those ?
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What's the purpose of any vehicle?
It's to get from one place to another.

This one happens to have a couple of advantages over other
motorcycles.

The first being able to use biodiesel and maybe even straight
vegetable oil. These come from farming and not oil wells and
can be produced at home with minimal equipment.

The other being that it's got really off-road tires so it can
go places most off-road bikes can't and won't tear up the
ground as much doing it.

This is probably an off-shoot of the NATO (or was it UN?)
requirement that all their vehicles take the same fuel.

Anthony
 
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Eeyore

Anthony said:
What's the purpose of any vehicle?
It's to get from one place to another.

This one happens to have a couple of advantages over other
motorcycles.

The first being able to use biodiesel and maybe even straight
vegetable oil. These come from farming and not oil wells and
can be produced at home with minimal equipment.

The other being that it's got really off-road tires so it can
go places most off-road bikes can't and won't tear up the
ground as much doing it.

This is probably an off-shoot of the NATO (or was it UN?)
requirement that all their vehicles take the same fuel.
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Big tyres = more losses which negate any possible fuel advantage.

It loks like a fat man's toy to me.

Graham
 
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myal

Eeyore said:
Anthony Matonak wrote:




Big tyres = more losses which negate any possible fuel advantage.
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diesel motor has advantage of being able to burn dino diesel , bio
diesel and cooing oil .

with some effort , even recycled vege oil .

this is to some , an advantage .

fat tyres on what looks to me and offroad machine may use more fuel if
the bike is used as a road bike , for sure , but if its used as an
offroad machine over soft sand or mud , then there maybe fuel advantages
if you meansure the fuel used in wheelspin and extra load from bogging
on the same bike with itty bitty skinny wheels , Id guess .
 
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Harbin Osteen

If you make your own bio-diesel you have a utility vehicle that can tow a
trailer
to do some usefull work around the property, or use it for hunting. It was
said that
it gets about 130 miles per gallon in one article that I read. It would also
be great
for some boaters that cruise to undevloped areas. You can fuel it from your
own
fuel tanks, and cruise from your ancorage to explore, or restock your
supplies that
you may have to lug for some distance. This has been a problem for some who
cruise the cannals in Europe, where some barges are large enough to carry a
car, some are not.

--

SeeYaa:) Harbin Osteen KG6URO

!sdohtem noitpyrcne devorppa-tnemnrevog troppus I
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Eeyore

Harbin said:
If you make your own bio-diesel you have a utility vehicle that can tow a
trailer
to do some usefull work around the property, or use it for hunting. It was
said that
it gets about 130 miles per gallon in one article that I read. It would also
be great
for some boaters that cruise to undevloped areas. You can fuel it from your
own
fuel tanks, and cruise from your ancorage to explore, or restock your
supplies that
you may have to lug for some distance. This has been a problem for some who
cruise the cannals in Europe, where some barges are large enough to carry a
car, some are not.
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When I've been on canal trips we had no trouble walking to the shops actually.
It makes for a fun kind of holiday btw.

Graham
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per Eeyore:
Big tyres = more losses which negate any possible fuel advantage.
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Dunno from motorcycles, but riding a mountain bike it's true that fat soft tires
are less efficient (much less..) on smooth pavement.

But when you get off road - as the riding surface gets rougher and or softer -
there's a crossover point and big/squishy becomes much more efficient than
narrow/hard.
 
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steamer

In alt.energy.homepower Eeyore said:
It loks like a fat man's toy to me.
Graham
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--You're unlikely to find a "man" fatter than the US Army. It's
definitely got a future..
 
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Larry

It was
said that
it gets about 130 miles per gallon in one article that I read. It
would also be great
for some boaters that cruise to undevloped areas. You can fuel it from
your own
fuel tanks, and cruise from your ancorage to explore, or restock your
supplies that
you may have to lug for some distance. This has been a problem for
some who cruise the cannals in Europe, where some barges are large
enough to carry a car, some are not.
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I wonder how may "miles-per-centrifugal-clutch" it gets on biodiesel?

I remember centrifugal clutches from many small vehicles. "Self-
consuming" comes to mind.

Note to boaters....it ISN'T street legal in the USA. Point moot.

Those concerned with the environment can reduce emissions to zero by NOT
buying one of these and STAYING HOME. How many are towed on a trailer by
some environazi behind their Ford Expedition?....(c;

Yeah, right....

My nuclear-powered scooter works great on the boats. Folds flat for easy
storage and recharging:
http://tinyurl.com/q7hj6

16 miles at 8mph. Also not street legal, but our cops treat it like a
geriatric electric vehicle so you can ride it on the scooter-friendly
sidewalks without harassment...(c; Recharges in about 3 hours from dead.
 
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steamer

In alt.energy.homepower MMC said:
Actually it's a grown up version of the Tote Goat or offroad mini bike.
Lot's of uses, and excuses to buy one for fun;)
http://users.infoconex.com/~ramrod/tgland.htm
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--Neat site; thanks for the link! FWIW one of the great things about
the Tote Goat is the box-section frame, which provides a *lot* of real
estate for engine hacking. A friend of mine runs a steam power plant in his
as it's got room on board for Propane fuel, flash boiler and a honkin' big
water tank. Not sure what the range is, but it's decidedly low tech and has
a real third world flavor, heh.
 
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Harbin Osteen

Yea Larry, if you are always tied to a dock in the US, you would not
need somthing
like this, and not being street legal would be revelant, but if you are a
long range
cruiser, say crusising Thailand, and your trawler battaries went to crap,
and you had
to pack new ones back to the boat, I would find this bike a lot more useful
than a
electric scooter, and you could jumper the new boat battires to your
scooter, and
it's still not going to make it back.
You may not have a use for this bike, but I posted this here because
some
might find the info useful.

--

SeeYaa:) Harbin Osteen KG6URO

!sdohtem noitpyrcne devorppa-tnemnrevog troppus I
-
 
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Larry

Yea Larry, if you are always tied to a dock in the US, you would
not
need somthing
like this, and not being street legal would be revelant, but if you
are a long range
cruiser, say crusising Thailand, and your trawler battaries went to
crap, and you had
to pack new ones back to the boat, I would find this bike a lot more
useful than a
electric scooter, and you could jumper the new boat battires to your
scooter, and
it's still not going to make it back.
You may not have a use for this bike, but I posted this here
because
some
might find the info useful.
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So, to answer my question, how many miles DOES it get to a centrifugal
clutch? How many dealers are there in Thailand to fix it while I'm crusing
around from bar to bar? Where do I get parts in the US, even, tractor
dealers??...(c;

Oh, by the way, are YOU involved selling this bike?......
 
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Larry

Them weigh upwards to 47,000 pounds.
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Hmm...I may have overestimated how much a 22' sloop can float...(c;

With all those tractor tires hanging over BOTH sides, however, we should be
able to plane her with the 500hp diesel in "road gear"....(c;
 
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Eeyore

Biodiesel is just replacing one type of emission with another - and it
takes a lot of power to harvest/process the stuff. For these types of
purposes, there is an ancient form of power, called human power.
Imagine having a utility bicycle/tricycle on board with appropriate
gearing. ALthough maybe in certain situations probably a bit slower,
it is probably overall faster with no tuning, centrifugal clutches to
maintain, fueling, finding fuel - someone mentioned cruising in far off
places needing to go get batteries. Are you carrying a large tank of
biodiesel on your intercontinental cruises? I reckon a good utility
bicycle would be lighter, easier to stow on board, cleaner, cheaper,
less time consuming, and 98% as useful. Sounds like a good tradeoff to
me.
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No it doesn't.

Graham
 
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