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Clint Elliott

Hi,

I live in Alberta, Canada. ATCO, our electric company says they are only
charging us roughly 6 cents per KWH. However, our bills also have delivery
charges and administrative fees, etc. When I did some calculating I figured
out I am really paying just over 17 cents per KWH. Is this a lot in your
(readers of this message) opinion? What are you paying for grid power?
Solar power supplimenting grid power is starting to look attractive.

Thanks,

Clint
 
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JNJ

I live in Alberta, Canada. ATCO, our electric company says they are only
charging us roughly 6 cents per KWH. However, our bills also have delivery
charges and administrative fees, etc. When I did some calculating I figured
out I am really paying just over 17 cents per KWH. Is this a lot in your
(readers of this message) opinion? What are you paying for grid power?
Solar power supplimenting grid power is starting to look attractive.

Here in the US I'm paying roughly 8 cents per kWh of electricity and $1.5
per CCF of gas. That's about 11 cents and $2.08 Canadian. I *THINK* our
rates here are less than some other areas of the US however.

James
 
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daestrom

JNJ said:
Here in the US I'm paying roughly 8 cents per kWh of electricity and $1.5
per CCF of gas. That's about 11 cents and $2.08 Canadian. I *THINK* our
rates here are less than some other areas of the US however.

My NG prices are based on therms, and if I take the total gas charges
divided by total therms, I was running about $0.90/therm for the winter.
Prices did shoot up this spring to $1.52/therm in June (NY).

But my total electric charges divided by total kWh has been running about
$0.135/kWh for quite a while. This includes supply, delivery and several
tariffs and taxes.

But this method of calculating includes the fixed billing costs, and the
more expensive first kWh (although I hear some folks pay a higher rate for
the last kWh used instead of the first). When I'm trying to figure savings
of a conservation measure, I like to use the marginal rate (how much would
one more kWh cost). Kind of like income taxes, I may pay only 18% of my
income to taxes, but the marginal tax rate is 27% (oops, I think it just
changed, so maybe not).

After all, reducing your usage to 7/8ths of what it was may not reduce your
bill by 7/8ths ;-)

daestrom
 
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Steve Spence

my grid power in NJ was effectively .15 / kWh for nuclear/natural gas. Now
in Upstate NY it's .05 / kWh for hydroelectric. solar/wind is not cost
effective for me now, although in certain areas near here, grid power is not
available.
 
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Ken

I live in Alberta, Canada. ATCO, our electric company says they are only
charging us roughly 6 cents per KWH. However, our bills also have delivery
charges and administrative fees, etc. When I did some calculating I figured
out I am really paying just over 17 cents per KWH. Is this a lot in your
(readers of this message) opinion? What are you paying for grid power?
Solar power supplimenting grid power is starting to look attractive.

Here in Sweden (northern Europe) I pay 14 cents (CAD) per KWh.
 
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Yoyo

Sorry, dollar - euro rates have changed lately...

18 eurocents ~ $ 0,21

Bram
 
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Ross Herbert

Clint said:
Hi,

I live in Alberta, Canada. ATCO, our electric company says they are only
charging us roughly 6 cents per KWH. However, our bills also have delivery
charges and administrative fees, etc. When I did some calculating I figured
out I am really paying just over 17 cents per KWH. Is this a lot in your
(readers of this message) opinion? What are you paying for grid power?
Solar power supplimenting grid power is starting to look attractive.

Thanks,

Clint

CA$0.17 /kWh sounds pretty high to me. I am in Western Australia and we
have the highest electricity costs in Australia, (domestic use) 12.67
c/kWh + 10% GST + a one off quarterly supply charge of AU$14.41. My last
bill for 62 days for 915 kWh came to a total of AU$127.50 which works
out to around 13.93 c/kWh. AU$1 = CA$0.91 so this would equate to 12.7
c/kWh in Canadian currency.

Ross Herbert
 
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JeroenH

I pay 16.25 Eurocent per kWh. That's in the Netherlands, from the energy
company Nuon.
 
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JeroenH

Yeah, PV is becoming more popular all the time here. The government and
the energy corporations subsidize PV, too. A 600Wp grid-coupled setup
can be had for as little as EUR 400, depending on where you live and
which energy corporation you get your electricity from.
600Wp is the maximum you can install yourself without having to hire an
(expensive) electrician to add another group and fuse to your electrical
system. Not surprisingly, 600Wp systems are the most popular :)

Energy costs this high also make efficient fridges and hot-fill washing
machines very popular; it won't take long before you recover your
investment.
 
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