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Gar

You both got ripped. That's rather expensive. I paid a $1.99 for the same
basic Centec DMM at Harbor Freight about 6 weeks ago. I bought a bushel or
two.
 
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Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\

Gar said:
You both got ripped. That's rather expensive. I paid a $1.99 for the same
basic Centec DMM at Harbor Freight about 6 weeks ago. I bought a bushel or
two.

That's cool. Your only problem right now is going thru all of them and
removing the battery so that it won't leak all over the innnards and
ruin them while they're sitting around for the next ten years. ;-)
 
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Walter Harley

Chuck Harris said:
[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.
 
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Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\

Walter Harley said:
Chuck Harris said:
[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.

Too bad. ;-)

(From a Calif. resident)
 
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:-: Ghost Chip :-:

They're ok for a cheap meter. 1 meg input impedance. ~4%
accuracy.
Better than 1k or 10k meter movements but the 9v
battery costs more than the meter.
GC
 
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Jim Adney

Chuck Harris said:
[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.

I was surprised to find out a few years ago that WI sales tax was also
levied on the shipping & handling charges.

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Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\

Jim Adney said:
Chuck Harris said:
[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.

I was surprised to find out a few years ago that WI sales tax was also
levied on the shipping & handling charges.

Up until recently, I became acutely aware that other states were doing
this. In Calif, it seemed to me that it just makes common sense that
sales tax would _not_ be levied on services, such as 'transportation' as
the tax code calls it, and any service that isn't actually the goods
itself. See, labor (AKA services) is _already_ taxed thru income tax.

Back years ago, _all_ food was not taxable. Then Sacramento came up
with what was called the 'Twinky Tax'. Some foods such as those sold in
vending machines became taxable. (It sure hasn't slowed people down
from eating them! Sunday Morning on CBS this morning had a piece on how
everything is being made larger to accommodate larger people. Subway
seats used to be 17", now they're in the low 20's. Dress sizes of a
certain number have become larger, etc.)

I'm not sure how they draw the line between Twinkies and cupcakes.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Chuck Harris said:
[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.

I was surprised to find out a few years ago that WI sales tax was also
levied on the shipping & handling charges.

Probably to keep vendors from potentially avoiding tax on behalf of
their customers by invoicing an item as $0.99 plus $150 'shipping and
handling'.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Watson A.Name - \Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\

Spehro Pefhany said:
[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.

I was surprised to find out a few years ago that WI sales tax was also
levied on the shipping & handling charges.

Probably to keep vendors from potentially avoiding tax on behalf of
their customers by invoicing an item as $0.99 plus $150 'shipping and
handling'.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Well, I don't see that happening. The customer doesn't have to pay ten
bucks tax, but the vendor still hase to send tax on 99 cents to the
state, so it still doesn't save him anything. And then there's the
matter of the state saying that the vendor is attempting to avoid what's
due the state, and then the vendor has a legal problem. And it's no
skin off the vendor's nose if the customer pays the ten dollars or not.
So your scenario doesn't seem plausible. But on Ebay, they seem to do
it to avoid selling fees or to lower risk.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Well, I don't see that happening. The customer doesn't have to pay ten
bucks tax, but the vendor still hase to send tax on 99 cents to the
state, so it still doesn't save him anything.

Puts her in a competitive situation with other vendors (including out
of state) and she saves the credit card percentage on the tax.
And then there's the
matter of the state saying that the vendor is attempting to avoid what's
due the state, and then the vendor has a legal problem.

He would only have a legal problem if it wasn't legal to do. S&H is
fairly arbitrary.
And it's no
skin off the vendor's nose if the customer pays the ten dollars or not.
So your scenario doesn't seem plausible. But on Ebay, they seem to do
it to avoid selling fees or to lower risk.

Or both. The latter is particularly insidious, in the case where a
vendor may offer a refund minus shipping. It's kind of like paying a
tradesman cash so he can cheat on his taxes.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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