Brinks Home Security and Vonage

[alarman]

AlarmReview wrote

Solution was to FIRST determine if your alarm, which was designed to work on
POTS, would work on what YOU planned to change, not the other way around. What
you basically did was buy 12,500 gallons of Bio Diesel and you're now piss
because the car manufacture telling you the car runs on gasoline. Sure the
seller of your diesel fuel tells you it will work by changing some of the
engine parts, but the manufacture is saying "we don't do that". Don't go bad
mouthing the car manufacture, bad mouth the cheap idiot who bought the bio
diesel fuel to save a few pennies BEFORE checking to see if it can be used with
their car!

Excellent analogy. I get weary of people who want to go on the cheap, and
expect me to pay for it.
js

 

[alarman]

Mark Leuck wrote

(PS: I too was on the Arizona in 1941)

I didn't see you there.
js

 

[G. Morgan]

Someone named [email protected] (AlarmReview) Proclaimed on 12 May
2004 05:26:23 GMT,

He got the correct answer the first time which was the panel can't VOIP.
Correct.




The OP wasn't satisfied with that answer (it appears other alarmcos were telling
him that their panels could) so the second time they just agreed to come out
and muck around till they got it to work. Bet when it all done with, they
simple connected to the POTS jack on the gateway.

What are you calling a "gateway"? If you mean the virtual POTS on the
Vonage port 1 it is VOIP.


-Graham

 

[Mark Leuck]

Mark Leuck wrote

I didn't see you there.
js

Above deck on the bridge. I was an officer and we didn't talk to the common
seebees

 

[alarman]

Mark Leuck wrote

Above deck on the bridge. I was an officer and we didn't talk to the common
seebees

I wasn't stationed on the ship, but inspected it several times. If you
didn't see me, you must have had your eyes forward like you were supposed
to. Good man. Carry on.
js

 

[Mark Leuck]

Mark Leuck wrote

I wasn't stationed on the ship, but inspected it several times. If you
didn't see me, you must have had your eyes forward like you were supposed
to. Good man. Carry on.
js

Judging by what happened to the ship I should have been looking upward
instead

 

[alarman]

Judging by what happened to the ship I should have been looking upward
instead

I visited the Arizona memorial 2 years ago. A profound experience indeed.
Going to see it again this summer.
js

 

[Mark Leuck]

I visited the Arizona memorial 2 years ago. A profound experience indeed.
Going to see it again this summer.
js

Gonna buy one of those wild shirts again?

 

[alarman]

Gonna buy one of those wild shirts again?

What wild shirts?
js

 

[Mark Leuck]

What wild shirts?
js

Shirts that everyone always buys while in Hawaii and then walk around in
shorts and big white socks, I saw all that on an episode of Magnum PI once
so it must be true.

 

[Frank Olson]

Shirts that everyone always buys while in Hawaii and then walk around in
shorts and big white socks, I saw all that on an episode of Magnum PI once
so it must be true.

It's an "urban myth"... I go to Hawaii every year... and have yet to come back
with one of "those" shirts (the shorts and the big white socks sound kewl
though)...

)

 

[Mark Leuck]

It's an "urban myth"... I go to Hawaii every year... and have yet to come back
with one of "those" shirts (the shorts and the big white socks sound kewl
though)...

)

Did you try going to what they call a "store"?

 

[G. Morgan]

Did you try going to what they call a "store"?

Do tube tops count from an "online security dealer"?

 

[Frank Olson]

Did you try going to what they call a "store"?

Naww!! I "trawl the beach" for all my new clothes... )

 

[Franco Spadafora]

Just to clarify on a point if anyone is still reading this thread. Phone
lines go down in lightning storms because trees take down phone lines or
lightning blows out some unprotected CO equipment, With major phone
companies (are there any small ones left?) the latter rarely happens. Power
lines also fail because of well-placed lightning strike or tree limbs.

The point you are missing in your response, and the previous gentleman was
correct: if you lose power to your home, whether it is a storm or a grid
outage you do not lose phone service. The phone companies power their
phones off of completely separate loops with plenty of backup and spare
juice to run the system. If you are using Vonage or other voip sytems you
are at the mercy of the power company to maintain your equipment
operational. A UPS will keep you alive for so long, but nowhere near the
capability of the phone company.
The cable companies coming in on copper can remotely provide battery backup
for the phone system but again nowhere near what the phone company can do.
In addition, if there is fiber to you rhouse or anywhere in the circuit to
your house, you can forget the chances of getting phone service from the
cable company.

Regards,
Franco

 

[Hary Cody]

Brinks came by Friday and here is what happened. I tested the system
by disconnecting the test lines coming into the Telco box outside,
then plugging in the Vonage Motorola box to a phone jack which made
every phone live on Vonage. The Brinks box was wired directly into
the Telco box poles. I assumed this would just like the other phones
in the house have a live connection. The Brinks tech said that's not
the case, and I disagreed. He re-wired the Brinks box directly to a
standard phone jack, and everything was fine. My Brinks system is
happy, complete with line seizure. No DSL filter required (although I
found out the system I have has one built in), and no baud rate
stepdown. So for anyone else who wishes to switch to Broadband DSL
with Brinks, it should work. The tech's explanation about the "It
won't work with Broadband" answer was, that the reps don't always know
much technically. So the good news for me anyway is, I'm
disconnecting my home phone service.

 

[Mark Leuck]

Brinks came by Friday and here is what happened. I tested the system
by disconnecting the test lines coming into the Telco box outside,
then plugging in the Vonage Motorola box to a phone jack which made
every phone live on Vonage. The Brinks box was wired directly into
the Telco box poles. I assumed this would just like the other phones
in the house have a live connection. The Brinks tech said that's not
the case, and I disagreed. He re-wired the Brinks box directly to a
standard phone jack, and everything was fine. My Brinks system is
happy, complete with line seizure. No DSL filter required (although I
found out the system I have has one built in), and no baud rate
stepdown. So for anyone else who wishes to switch to Broadband DSL
with Brinks, it should work. The tech's explanation about the "It
won't work with Broadband" answer was, that the reps don't always know
much technically. So the good news for me anyway is, I'm
disconnecting my home phone service.

I had no problems last night with a Vista-10, what ends up happening is to
just try it and see if it works, if it does great if it doesn't then try the
filter etc

 

[Tom Semour]

Just to clarify on a point if anyone is still reading this thread.
Phone lines go down in lightning storms because trees take down phone
lines or lightning blows out some unprotected CO equipment, With
major phone companies (are there any small ones left?) the latter
rarely happens. Power lines also fail because of well-placed lightning
strike or tree limbs.

The point you are missing in your response, and the previous gentleman
was correct: if you lose power to your home, whether it is a storm or
a grid outage you do not lose phone service. The phone companies
power their phones off of completely separate loops with plenty of
backup and spare juice to run the system. If you are using Vonage or
other voip sytems you are at the mercy of the power company to
maintain your equipment operational. A UPS will keep you alive for so
long, but nowhere near the capability of the phone company.
The cable companies coming in on copper can remotely provide battery
backup for the phone system but again nowhere near what the phone
company can do. In addition, if there is fiber to you rhouse or
anywhere in the circuit to your house, you can forget the chances of
getting phone service from the cable company.

Regards,
Franco

We actually have put together a wireless broadband solution using Motorola
Canopy that is entirely battery backed and reports over the network. Just
got it approved for commercial fire.

 

[Jackcsg]

We actually have put together a wireless broadband solution using Motorola
Canopy that is entirely battery backed and reports over the network. Just
got it approved for commercial fire.

Tom, what area of the country is this in? I was recently up around the
Chicago area and noticed a lot of homes with transceivers on them pointing
to what looked like a Canopy Array. I looked at the Canopy equipment, and
two other Manufacturers that have similar systems, and it looks like it's
starting to take shape.

Jack

 

[rory]

Just FYI, our government (bahamas) just made a new law that makes
using any VOIP a $300,000 fine! This really sucks!

Rory