Bloody digital!

[Superman]

"Super Stupid man"


** Errrrrrrr - yes .....

I had been watching earlier in the evening when the storm was most
severe, and the transmission was fine, but that was on channel 90. And
I'm fairly sure that the storm had all but finished when 'King Arthur'
was on, so how do you explain that? Can we assume that there is some
difference in the signal between nine HD and 7 HD? According to my meter
the signal strengh and quality is the same for both stations- full
scale, 10.

...... Phil

--
rgds,

Pete
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[Sylvia Else]

The best bet seems to be that it's a noise issue. Either someone in your
locality (including you yourself) is generating bursts of noise that the
antenna picks up, or mains noise is getting in - perhaps at the splitter
amplifier.

It would be worth checking that the antenna cable screen is properly
connected everywhere.

If the problem is radiated noise from an electric arc, then you'd
probably hear it on an AM radio - particular one that's not tuned to a
station. You could try watchng live TV while such a radio is on, and see
whether there's a correlation between bad video on the TV and noise on
the radio.

Sylvia.

Um, or a thunderstorm.

Sylvia.

 

[David L. Jones]

the latter

In that case the cause could be anything.
The storm (even if it's passed you), electrical interference from a neighor
using a bit of quipment, or most likely something in your own house (washing
machine or lights for example), or a whole host of other stuff.

I have the current model Panasonic DVDR and recorded it

Were you playing with any gear while you recorded it?
Switching lights off and on is a common cause of interference for example.
My garage roller door for example will completely blot every single digital
channel. And that's after I've tried all sorts of filtering techniques and
got a proper digital only log-periodic antenna.

I think location is relevant in that regard.

Yep, but I'm betting in this case it's a bit of gear in your house switching
on and off while you were recording.

Dave.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Super Stupid man"

Phil Allison

I had been watching earlier in the evening when the storm was most severe,
and the transmission was fine,

** Blah, blah, blah - more tedious bullshit.

The issue is LIGHTNING !!!

How much, what kind and where all make a difference.

Lightning does NOT have to be visible to YOU to interfere with the pix on
your TV.

With analogue TV you see bursts of noise on the screen - with DTV you get
pixilation or worse.

What planet have you been living on - was it Krypton by any chance ??




...... Phil

 

[atec 7 7]

Are you talking about artefacts? yes, it's pathetic. we have these hi
res panels and have to watch stuff that looks like it's come off youtube!


I was watching on 70. sorry, I didn't mention that. It was just
hopeless. but there was a storm and lightning last night. perhaps that
was a major cause. but I don't know how we are expected to watch
transmission like this.


I tried attenuating the signal to see if that helped but it didn't. I've
heard that too strong a signal can cause pixilation and image break up.

In simple term it might be equated with over-modulation in a radio mike
or similar and the waveform edges get messy hence failure to hold lock well

 

[DaveS]

Were you watching thru a STB? HD or SD? and what location?

None of those new fangled things, young fella.....

 

[Superman]

"Super Stupid man"

That would be you for thinking that just because someone doesn't know a
lot about a particular subject, it means that they're stupid. How much
do you know about Medieval literature for example? Or Palaeoecology? Or
maybe carpentry or plumbing? Does it mean you're stupid if you know SFA
about any of those subjects, or a myriad of others I could mention? I
know far more about electronics matters than the average person, but
unlike you I don't consider that makes others stupid.

 

[Superman]

None of those new fangled things, young fella.....

Well then you wouldn't have a problem with pixilation since you're
watching an analogue transmission not digital.

--
rgds,

Pete
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"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[Superman]

In simple terms it might be equated with over-modulation in a radio
mike or similar and the waveform edges get messy hence failure to hold
lock well

Do you think if I reduce the amplifier gain it might help the situation?

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

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"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[Sylvia Else]

That would be you for thinking that just because someone doesn't know a
lot about a particular subject, it means that they're stupid. How much
do you know about Medieval literature for example? Or Palaeoecology? Or
maybe carpentry or plumbing? Does it mean you're stupid if you know SFA
about any of those subjects, or a myriad of others I could mention? I
know far more about electronics matters than the average person, but
unlike you I don't consider that makes others stupid.

Phil considers everyone to be stupid, with the exception of himself. He
is totally unbiased in this respect.

Sylvia.

 

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF]

Phil considers everyone to be stupid, with the exception of himself. He
is totally unbiased in this respect.

You might say he's an expert on stupidity.

--

- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

 

[DaveS]

Well then you wouldn't have a problem with pixilation since you're
watching an analogue transmission not digital.

You finally worked it out - pick a kewpie doll from the top shelf.....

 

[Phil Allison]

"Super Stupid man"

Yes, I have a digital fringe range aerial running into a four way splitter
amplifier. (outer melb metro area location)

I was watching on 70. sorry, I didn't mention that. It was just hopeless.
but there was a storm and lightning last night. perhaps that was a major
cause.

** ROTFLMAO !!!




.... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Super Stupid man"

Yes, I have a digital fringe range aerial running into a four way splitter
amplifier. (outer melb metro area location)

I was watching on 70. sorry, I didn't mention that. It was just hopeless.
but there was a storm and lightning last night. perhaps that was a major
cause.

** ROTFLMAO !!!





.... Phil

 

[atec 7 7]

Do you think if I reduce the amplifier gain it might help the situation?

you should really takes measurements although its a simple test and cant
hurt , how much signal does the stp report on the bad channel ?

 

[atec 7 7]

"Super Stupid man"





** ROTFLMAO !!!





... Phil

No matter how hard you try to look smarter than you are we are never
fooled you meatpipe gobbling troll

 

[Superman]

You finally worked it out - pick a kewpie doll from the top shelf.....

smartase prick..

 

[Superman]

you should really takes measurements although its a simple test and
cant hurt , how much signal does the stp report on the bad channel ?

The DVDR is reporting 10 out of 10 on the scale for both signal strength
and signal quality, but there are no numbers on the scale to indicate
what the measurement is. I'll true reducing the amplifier gain and see
what happens.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We stopped the boats coming. The facts speak for themselves. People knew where we stood. We didn't try to be all things to all men. Look, our policy worked. There was no need to alter it" - John Howard

"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[Superman]

The splitter is a Kingray and 'designed for digital' so I'm assuming
that it's good quality. However, the fact that it's in a plastic box and
not metal has always been of some concern to me.

The cabling is RG6 and I installed it myself, so that's not likely an issue.

Ok, I'll try that thanks.

Um, or a thunderstorm.

Well the channel 10 5:00 news was pixilating badly yesterday at times
and there were no storms then. I'll give Panasonic a ring and see what
they have to say.

Sylvia.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We stopped the boats coming. The facts speak for themselves. People knew where we stood. We didn't try to be all things to all men. Look, our policy worked. There was no need to alter it" - John Howard

"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[Mr.T]

The DVDR is reporting 10 out of 10 on the scale for both signal strength
and signal quality, but there are no numbers on the scale to indicate
what the measurement is. I'll true reducing the amplifier gain and see
what happens.

Yep, if it's showing max signal, that would be the first thing to try. I
have to use an attenuator for SBS (no amplifier, just a strong signal)

MrT.