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Antec 1200 review. (53 positive points) (26 negative points, some of them are minor)

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Skybuck Flying

Hello,

Well since my Dream PC is dead for the moment and I have nothing better to
do and I am not 100% happy with the antec case I will write a review about
it... for you, for me, for them, for further improvements.

Let's see what I find good about this case and then less good ;) :)

The good/the positive:

+++++ +++++ +++++ + Superb airflow (16 points):

+++ Three very nice front inlet fans/positions.
++ Two very nice rear exhaust fans/positions.
+++ One big top exhaust fan/position.
+ Adjustable fan speeds, very nice/cool.
+ Extra air/space in the top and bottom.
+ Extra air/space in the front/rear.
+++ Three removeable/cleanable/strong dust filters.
+ Airflow goes into the front, and out the back and even top as it's
supposed too.
+ Power supply on bottom, extra airflow/cooling on bottom. I like that.

+++++ +++++ +++++ Good mounting system (15 points):

+++ Three removeable harddisk bays.
+ Bays go out via the front.
++ Floppy drive mounting extension included.
++ All necessary screws included.
+ Thumb screws which can be used by screw driver too.
+ IDE/DVD drive fit perfectly.
+ Floppy drive fit perfectly.
+ Lots of space.
+ Good motherboard holding screws/places/positions.
+ pci slot closures.
+ Strong material in general, strong side panels.

+++++ +++++ +++++ +++++ ++ Extra's (22 points):

+ Laser like leds that shine light over fan blades, looks like a
presentation... very nice/cool/beautifull.
+ Good manual with fan/airflow specifications.
+ Very good on/off power button =D
+ Very nice black look, with golden antec logo on it.
+ Holes in the motherboard area to work away cables.
+ Extra space on the sides to work away cables.
+ Rubber feet to prevent scrathes, and possibly reduce resonance and
increase stability.
+ Glass/plastic see through side panel so you can look inside to see if
everything is ok.
+ Extra internal mounting places for additional fans. Probably not really
necessary but it's there if you need it.
+ Daisy-chain molex power connectors for fans... they can all be attached to
each other.
+ Almost millimeter perfect... nothing gets stuck or anything like that ;)
+ Special grill for floppy drive.
+ Extra foam for top grills.
+ No sharp edges.
+ Nice knubs for fans, looks good.
+ Reset button.
+ Two usb ports on front, one sata port on front, two audio ports on front,
I don't care so much about this so only one point for all that.
+ Protective grills on back and top and even front fans, to prevent fingers
and large objects from falling in or touching blades or whatever..
+ Manual had a good tip on getting the dust filters out easily. I appreciate
that a lot !
+ Tiny little blue harddisk activity indicator at the top... Nice.
+ Extra space on the right side panel to tuck away large plugs and cables...
comes in handy !
+ Constant light beam on fans shows the fans are working ! ;)

Total positive points: 53.

----- ----- ----- ----- ----- - Now the bad:

- It's very heavy... this makes it stable and less prone to vibration... but
it's also a back breaker ;)
- It's big... it's difficult to transport/pick up.
- It's low above the ground... It's difficult to get fingers under it...
this makes it difficult to pickup or move it across a table.
- It doesn't have any handles or so... this makes it difficult to pick up.
- The doors are a bit difficult to attach... they seem to overshoot into the
case... then must be pulled back for proper placement.
- Right door corner wasn't 100% closed... it looked as if cables pushed it
out which wasn't the case... it just didn't close 100% perfectly... it's not
a problem but you should look at it so you don't get fooled when working
away the cables.
- The cabling system pretty much sucks ass... it has plastic thingies which
look like they will break/snap easily... it's not a good system... way too
many cables to get through those thingies... but maybe with a modular power
supply it might work... but I doubt it... since I wish I had a better
cabling system.... with many place holders everywhere or so.
- The external front ports... are high up... I place my case on the table...
so better might have been on the bottom... so I don't need long digital
camera cables etc...
I haven't tried it though.. but I know that's gonna be a stretch.. what if I
wanna move the camera a little bit on the table ? It's too high up there.
- What is the purpose of the front grills with all the holes ? I guess it's
just for looks or so... and ofcourse some airflow through it... maybe it's
just for protection or so... too me it looks a bit weird... like unfinished
or so... but just leave it as it is or so, minor negative point.
- I don't like the floppy grill because of missing foam... so that's another
minor point down below, it's it only attached in one way and it almost
overshoot inside... but minor negative point:
- No special foam cut for floppy drive... so I will have to cut the extra
foam with a stanley knife... then I could cut myself and get blood
somewhere...
- The rubber feet are very sturdy... it makes it difficult to slide the case
over the table... even trying to move the case for one millimeter is nearly
impossible at least on a wooden table... one could argue this is could to
prevent people from fucking with it... but ok.
Another thing that worries me about the sturdyness is what if I push really
hard ?
Maybe the rubber feet would break off...
So I think that the rubber feet should be a little bit more smooth so
pushing the case
around the table becomes possible. Minor negative point... I like the
sturdyness too... especially if it prevent any vibration etc... however this
critique is food for further eximanation and experimentation is there
something better possible ? ;)
- Inside of case scratches easily... so be carefull... minor negative point.
- Some metal splinters from screws which I had to screw in... and some black
paint correls... minor negative point.
- Case had lots of smell... maybe vent the case before shipping ? Minor
negative point since I have good airflow through my appartment... could be
issue for people with less good airflow in their houses ;)
- It is possible to drop little screw on the top big hole... which could
fall down... so people better be carefull not to do that...
- Bottom power supply could be dangerous if anything fails into it...
especially small little things and screws on the side could fall in.
- This case can definetly not be placed on the ground.. it would suck in
massive ammounts of dust... People doing so are crazy in my honest
oppinion... even with the dust filters I reckon it would still suck in a lot
! ;)
- Manual said filters might have to be cleaned once a month... sounds boring
! ;)
- Fan power connectors are not modulair... I stuck them to the back with
plastic tape... so I will have to pull the tape loose... this is a big
negative point.
- While I like the harddisk mounting system a lot because it is
ridig/sturdy.. it does involve a lot of thumbscrews and extra screws... this
is slightly time consuming.
- Working away all the cables with plastic stickers in the side requires an
insane ammount of time and energy and concentration and planning... very big
negative point.

*** Major improvements in design could be made here to motherboards and
cases to work away cables better... Maybe design a case that has special
sleaves or something to easily route away all the cables... Maybe make a
special routing sleaves/lanes like a traffic system on the side pannels ***

- Front and read leds can't be turned off.. Probably minor negative point...
so far I don't mind the blue lights/leds/lasers ;)

- No indicators for the buttons and ports at the top... Some text or icons
might have been better for newbies like: reset, usb, sata, power/on/off.
Maybe in golden letters might have been nice.

- What is the purpose of the top triangles ? Looks a bit weird to me... some
handles there might have been more functional !

- I am worried the top could break off if I pick it up there... seems like
plastic attached to it... so far it seems sturdy... but for how long... so
better not grab it there ;)

Total negative points: 26 negative points. (Some of those minor negative
points :))

So to sum up:

The biggest positive thing is:

+ Very good airflow
+ Very strong sturdy case.
+ Possiblity to work away cables/plugs.
+ Nice pitch-black look, lasers kinda nice too.
+ Pretty good mounting system.
+ Good power on/off button ;)

The biggest negative thing is:

- Very difficult to pickup because of missing handles or place to grab onto,
also because it's close to the ground.

- Very difficult to move because of size, weight and sturdy rubber feet.

- Cabling system is terrible... some nice pre-made sleaves, lanes or
something might have been perfect !

- The smell was kinda annoying... took at least two days to get rid of it..
might be because of new motherboard, artic silver and new cooler too ! ;)

- The doors are a bit difficult to close... especially the glass door. It
overshoots a little.

So there ya go folks... don't think too much of the negative... this is a
damn good case ! ;) But it's not for people looking to quickly mount a
system together... You'll need lots of time to mount everything and you'll
need lots and lots of time to work away the cables... which is a really
tiring... but once that's all done.. it's fabulous ;)

And a special word about the laser/light show... I like those lasers/lights
a lot !

They shine a constant beam of blue light onto the fan blades... you can only
see it flicker/move a little bit.. (so you know the fans are working !) it
doesn't really move that much so it's not annoying or distracting... but
once you look at it... it's quite beautifull/gorgious... I am not found of
christmas trees... but this I like =D

The only little weird thing is: the top blow hole led can be turned
off/on... while the rest cannot ? :$ LOL. That's funny. I even like the blue
light on the blowhole..

It's like a ufo on top of my case ! What more could you ask for in the fun
factor ? LOL =D

Go here if you wanna see some pictures of a build: :)

http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/DreamPCThirdBuild/

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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Skybuck Flying

Also,

I didn't write anything about the noise levels.

I haven't had to chance to fully test it out for a long period of time...

So maybe I will write about the noise levels in the future.

From what I have heard/experienced myself it seems:

At low it's very quite. (The first I did notice some humming from the case..
like it was rocking back and forth or so.. but maybe it just wasn't placed
properly on the table... dont know about that.. I didn't notice it again)

I could actually hear the harddisk make noise... ? Is it because the case is
whisper quiet ? <- Probably...

Or is it resonating/propagating a little bit through the case ? Or maybe
because of the open holes in the front ? <- Probably not.

On medium it made some nice which probably would get annoying during gaming.

On high well speaks for itself... you ll go mad ;)

But all in all no real humming... humming would be most annoying... but so
far it doesn't seem to be present.

When it's on low it's like your in the forest... with a little breeze
blowing kinda nice... it's not silent... but barely noticeable...

On medium it starts to blow a lot like wind past your ears one a bike with
wind or so.

It's kinda cool too.. being able to adjust the airflow and noise levels...

However this requires long exposures to be sure if it's annoying yes or
no...

I hope to find out for myself soon enough once I fix my PC :)

Cooling was pretty good at low... motherboard temperature rose 2 to 3
degrees...

However I have a huge top down cpu cooler... which is the zipang... which is
probably also probably helping to cool it a bit.

SLI is probably bad though... northbridge gets very hot... this case will
probably not help that much on cooling it unless the middle front fan is set
to medium speed. then the northbridge gets cooled a bit better and drops a
few degrees.

SLI is only possible if there is enough room for the graphics fan to suck in
cool air...

So at least one pci slot under the graphics cards needs to be open.

With my motherboard this would exclude any expension cards like the x-fi
elite pro soundblaster... when using dual slot graphics cards.

The onboard audio does use some cpu... which is definetly noticeable during
gameplay...

I will test sli a little bit more once my pc is fixed... to see how much
difference it makes in fps when playing cod 4.

What sli might gain in fps... is probably lots too the onboard audio... so
sli might not to that much to improve performance <- pure speculation
though... must still be confirmed...

I know one thing for sure... a single 7900 gtx 512 MB is a pretty powerfull
card to run cod 4 at high resolution with some shadows and such off... and
still get decent 30 fps at 1920x1200 with 44 players. < Also this was with
onboard audio and a single graphics card if I remember correctly... with
x-fi fps might go a bit up.. thanks to sounds being cached etc.

More testing still needs to be done to be sure though...

Bye,
Skybuck =D
 
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MitchAlsup

And this related to computer architecture in exactly what manner?

Computer architecture as in : How processors go about their duties,
The organization of memory systems, Cache coherency issues,
Design and analysis of floating point units, instruction sets, I/O
systems,.....
 
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Martin Griffith

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:53:29 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"


None of us at s.e.d. are likely interested in this.

Your dream PC sounds like a nightmare to me.


John

Yeah, but you could have snipped the garbage....it must have been
several milligrams of CO2, worldwide

That new box of yours looks nice BTW :)


martin
 
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Skybuck Flying

How you gonna mount all that stuff ?

Not thinking about this basic question can get your computer architecture
into lots of trouble ;) See current companies for examples.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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geoff

so many people just are reacting on him that I still get all the bullshit
of this super troll.

Yep, a better method is needed, other than a kill file, because these groups
are frequented by what seems to be the college crowd, intent on
showing/proving to you that they know everything and everyone else in these
groups is a dumbshit.

People get drawn into a worthless argument with these trolls and what they
write pops up all over the place.

My recent favorite was 'rod speed', who if anyone disagreed with him, would
trace their e-mail back to the posters name and and address and post it.
His messages would start with, 'some pig face bitch asshole named:', then he
would post the name and address. His IP traced back to the University of
Berlin.

--g
 
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Skybuck Flying

Hmm..

Now that my Dream PC seems to be working again...

There is one thing which might start to annoy me...

And that's the blue led in the back of the top rear fan...

It's kinda shining into my eye... so maybe it's blinding my eye without me
noticing it...

though I do notice it a bit and I find it a little bit distracting... so
that could get real bad on the long run... so I might have to *again* stick
something over my case to get rid of that led light ! ;)

At least the case not vibrating or humming ;)

I do have to set it on medium airflow I think to keep motherboard at 40 to
41 degrees and cpu on 38 degrees... otherwise on low it would be 44
degrees... which might still be acceptable..

Only one graphics card in at the moment and I plan to keep it like that..

Though an x-fi elite pro will be added back in later on ;)

Yeah that led has got to go or something =D

Stupid let I already wanna shoot it =D

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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Skybuck Flying

Well maybe it's not so bad.

Maybe I am just a bit tired and irritated that one of my memory chips is
just bad.

On the other hand I do know the led is there... I just couldn't help myself.

I just had to look at the led LOL.

Maybe I will get used to it ;)

It's not too bad though.

I compared it to a logitech laser mouse... a cheaper one...

It's laser is much more powerfull... you ll go blind if you look into that
laser mouse light.

On the other hand... the other expensive g3 logitech mouse has an almost
invisible laser...

How strange ?!

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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Craig Sutton

Skybuck Flying said:
Hmm..

Now that my Dream PC seems to be working again...

There is one thing which might start to annoy me...

And that's the blue led in the back of the top rear fan...

Cut the wire or tape over it .. yeah put tons of tape over it tape fixes
everything..
put some over your keyboard as well..
 
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