ADEMCO 4110 Panic alarm

[bGhasseml]

We are not very familiar with alarm systems.
I am resetting an alarmsystem (Ademco 4110) after fixing all circuits.
systems resets and ready. But as soon as we arm it (after 15 secon) alarm
goes off with code 9 + BAT

But battery reads good charg 13.5 VDC.

Any clues will be appreciated.

Regards
George

 

[Jim Rojas]

Sound like Check 9. That means one of 2 things.

1. Expansion device is missing
2. You accidential turned on wireless expansion.

Look in location 20 something...make sure those sections are correct. If
all else fails, give me a call.

Jim Rojas
(813) 884-6335

 

[G. Morgan]

We are not very familiar with alarm systems.
I am resetting an alarmsystem (Ademco 4110) after fixing all circuits.
systems resets and ready. But as soon as we arm it (after 15 secon) alarm
goes off with code 9 + BAT

But battery reads good charg 13.5 VDC.

Are you reading the batt. voltage while it's plugged in to the panel? That
won't work. If the batt. is over 2 years old it may need replacing.

You have to read the voltage disconnected from the panel and under a load.
Otherwise your results are really meaningless.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Change the battery...and what Jim said.

 

[Jim Rojas]

He gave me a call...his system was pretty messed up. We did a panel
default, and that did the trick.

Jim Rojas

 

[Crash Gordon]

scrambled by user or ??

I dunno why people even bother buying an expensive battery
tester....batteries last 3 years these days...you get a low battery
signal...you change it...no wondering or fancy troubleshooting.



--
**Crash Gordon**

 

[mleuck]

scrambled by user or ??

I dunno why people even bother buying an expensive battery
tester....batteries last 3 years these days...you get a low battery
signal...you change it...no wondering or fancy troubleshooting.

When in doubt change it out

 

[Paul]

I dunno why people even bother buying an expensive battery
tester....batteries last 3 years these days...you get a low battery
signal...you change it...no wondering or fancy troubleshooting.

I use a battery tester for my contracted customers as I believe "if it is
working it don't need fixing". I used to work for a multi-national which
demanded a battery change at 4 years and then reused 2nd hand batteries as
replacements. Best ever so far to my knowledge was 18 years battery life
from a 7AH. They used to charge around 400% mark-up on the battery on top of
call-out / service charge, nice earner if you can get it but most customers
are now a little more cautious with expenditure and are looking for a more
cost effective option. I am doing alright thanks to new contracts from
companies like this charging over the odds for replacement items that are
not required.


--
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.


Paul Ekins

Linc Secure

 

[Crash Gordon]

18 years? no way...oh sure I've removed batteries that we put in 18 years
ago that looked ok but I certainly wouldn't have bet my life on them.



--
**Crash Gordon**

 

[Jim Rojas]

I doubt you could get 18 years on even a Yuasa battery. Maybe he was
using a forklift battery. You can get 40 to 50 years from one of those.

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim]

I doubt you could get 18 years on even a Yuasa battery. Maybe he was
using a forklift battery. You can get 40 to 50 years from one of those.

Jim Rojas

Jeeeeze! Just think .... at the age of 30 years old you install a
battery. By the time it wears out, you are no longer able to lift it
to make a replacement.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Ha...lifting a box of 7amp batts is getting too much for me now!

--
**Crash Gordon**

 

[Jim Rojas]

Each forklift battery cell is 2 volts, and can easily weigh 25-40 lbs
each cell.

This is a good option for remote sites like cabins, hunting lodges,
construction sites, etc. One battery pack can last a lifetime. The more
batteries you add, the more power it can provide.

A combination of solar panels and/or wind or hydro turbines can easily
provide 250-1KW watts of power continuously to keep the batteries topped
off. Then you can use any standard 100 to 1000 watt power inverter to
run whatever you want.

Some people that are completely off the grid in remote areas have in
excess of 3 to 5KW of power at all times, which would require roughly 1+
tons of battery banks.

Battery Life Estimates:

Cheap Gel Cell - 3 months ($7 each)
Premium Gel Cell - 6-8 months ($13 each)
Cheap Car Battery - 6 months ($39 each)
Premium Car Battery - 1-2 years ($129)
Marine Battery - 1-2 years ($79 each)
Deep Cycle Marine Battery 2-3 years ($119 each)
Industrial Battery - 2-3 years ($250 each)
Golf Cart Battery - 3-4 years ($150 each)
New Forklift Battery - 40+ years $100 per 2 volt cell)
Used Forklift Battery - 20-40 years (Free to $50 per 2 volt cell)

Now you must calculate how much standby power you require. This is where
the choice on battery type becomes more obvious. Replacement battery
costs is the deal maker here.

Jim Rojas

 

[Jim]

Each forklift battery cell is 2 volts, and can easily weigh 25-40 lbs
each cell.

This is a good option for remote sites like cabins, hunting lodges,
construction sites, etc. One battery pack can last a lifetime. The more
batteries you add, the more power it can provide.

A combination of solar panels and/or wind or hydro turbines can easily
provide 250-1KW watts of power continuously to keep the batteries topped
off. Then you can use any standard 100 to 1000 watt power inverter to
run whatever you want.

Some people that are completely off the grid in remote areas have in
excess of 3 to 5KW of power at all times, which would require roughly 1+
tons of battery banks.

Battery Life Estimates:

Cheap Gel Cell - 3 months ($7 each)
Premium Gel Cell - 6-8 months ($13 each)
Cheap Car Battery - 6 months ($39 each)
Premium Car Battery - 1-2 years ($129)
Marine Battery - 1-2 years ($79 each)
Deep Cycle Marine Battery 2-3 years ($119 each)
Industrial Battery - 2-3 years ($250 each)
Golf Cart Battery - 3-4 years ($150 each)
New Forklift Battery - 40+ years $100 per 2 volt cell)
Used Forklift Battery - 20-40 years (Free to $50 per 2 volt cell)

Now you must calculate how much standby power you require. This is where
the choice on battery type becomes more obvious. Replacement battery
costs is the deal maker here.

Jim Rojas

Are these all lead acid?

What about lithium? I thought they were supposed to be better. Aren't
they using them in the new battery powered cars?

I know that when it comes to batteries there's always a trade off.
Everyone's been waiting for the next breakthrough in battery power
sources so that the automobile industry can take the next step.

With all of the advances in DNA research maybe someone should take a
look at developing a giant hamster that thrives on carbon for power
wheel generation of electricity.

 

[Jim Rojas]

Yes, all tried and true lead acid batteries. Lithium ion, and the rest
of those polymer type batteries are just too damn expensive at this time
to even consider.

Jim Rojas